Not sure how to make an actual de-alias attempt, as there doesn't seem to be a button for it...but as it currently stands, the character tag named mara implies the tag caviid, which is a type of rodent...despite the fact that all but one of the images tagged "mara," depict a dragon character, or a shark character...neither of which are caviids.
Topic: De-implicate caviid from mara
Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions
Characters arent supposed to have implications, I can understand characters having lore tag implications. But Not TWYS primaries.
So👍 to this
Or retag the characters as mara_(respective_owner) and leave mara for the species should it pop up. That way, they won't get mixed up with each other, either.
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demesejha said:
Characters arent supposed to have implications, I can understand characters having lore tag implications. But Not TWYS primaries.
So👍 to this
The implications were for a species tag, but in April someone flipped it to character:
If people are just going to tag mara by itself for characters then maybe the whole thing needs to be sent to a disambiguation, splitting into mara_(species) and mara_(*) tags
unimplicate patagonian_mara -> mara
unimplicate chacoan_mara -> mara
unimplicate mara -> caviid
implicate patagonian_mara -> mara_(rodent)
implicate chacoan_mara -> mara_(rodent)
implicate mara_(rodent) -> caviid
alias mara -> mara_(disambiguation)
I wonder how people set these coments up like a BUR
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Done. The dragon was retagged to mara_(xmanchox) and the shark to mara_(blasting_cap) (which already existed as a tag). However, I'm uncertain whether to change mara itself to mara_(genus) or mara_(animal) since maras are a genus of species, not one particular species.
However, I agree with this de-implication, so that mara can be aliased to mara_(disambiguation) instead. All of mara's current implications would be implied from mara_(genus)/(animal) instead.
clawstripe said:
However, I'm uncertain whether to change mara itself to mara_(genus) or mara_(animal) since maras are a genus of species, not one particular species.
I would say mara_(genus) makes the most sense. Because, like you said, it is a genus. Not to mention, that seems to be how this is handled in most cases. With the exception of a few single-post tags, the only tag I can find with *_(animal) is mole_(animal).
vulkalu said:
the only tag I can find with *_(animal) is mole_(animal).
Nice
vulkalu said:
I would say mara_(genus) makes the most sense. Because, like you said, it is a genus. Not to mention, that seems to be how this is handled in most cases. With the exception of a few single-post tags, the only tag I can find with *_(animal) is mole_(animal).
Works for me. And now I realize that I can't get rid of the old mara tag. :p
mara_(species), mara_(rodent) would be most accurate. mara_(genus) is not accurate. Mara is the common name. Dolichotis is the genus.
thevileone said:
mara_(species), mara_(rodent) would be most accurate. mara_(genus) is not accurate. Mara is the common name. Dolichotis is the genus.
Actually, there are two species of mara, the Patagonian mara and the Chacoan mara, although the latter is rather unpopulated on e621 at the moment. Thus, mara can apply to either member of Dolichotis. Consider it future-proofing for when someone posts a Chacoan mara.
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To be fair, too, it shouldn't be too hard to alias it to Dolichotis if it was really deemed necessary. I just saw the options of *_(genus) or *_(animal) and thought the former made more sense than the latter.
Personally I prefer using common names where I'm able, but as long as the proper aliases are in place, I'm not super bothered by which is used.
clawstripe said:
Actually, there are two species of mara, the Patagonian mara and the Chacoan mara, although the latter is rather unpopulated on e621 at the moment. Thus, mara can apply to either member of Dolichotis. Consider it future-proofing for when someone posts a Chacoan mara.
Yes. Both belong to the genus Dolichotis. The genus suffix is usually only used when referring to the genus name. Unless you want to use dolichotis_(genus), it is not the right suffix to use in this case. The mara common name is better, which can be generalized as a species or handled like other species that needed to be distinguished like cardinal_(bird). It would be most consistent to have mara_(rodent). wikipedia has the page as mara_(mammal), but I think that is too vague when we know that all maras are rodents.
Alias however many terms you want to mara_(rodent).
thevileone said:
Yes. Both belong to the genus Dolichotis. The genus suffix is usually only used when referring to the genus name. Unless you want to use dolichotis_(genus), it is not the right suffix to use in this case. The mara common name is better, which can be generalized as a species or handled like other species that needed to be distinguished like cardinal_(bird). It would be most consistent to have mara_(rodent). wikipedia has the page as mara_(mammal), but I think that is too vague when we know that all maras are rodents.Alias however many terms you want to mara_(rodent).
That's a good point. The _(rodent) suffix would be more obvious to what sort of animal it is than either _(genus) or _(animal). I'll go with that.