Topic: [Feature] Make signing up less annoying

Requested feature overview description.

Stop the google captcha from resetting if the provided email is not valid, and/or stop blacklisting so many email providers.
Provide a more descriptive message than "this email can not be used" if the provided email is in fact blacklisted, and/or have a public list of blacklisted email providers.

Why would it be useful?

Because according to NotMeNotYou in this thread the solution to the blacklist issues is to "please put up with making a throwaway account via an email you don't care about": but this is pretty hard to do when most major email providers require a phone number for sign up, a lot of those who don't are blacklisted, and there's no way to know which emails will work outside of trial and error.
And trial and error is a pain because of the captcha: if someone has already solved the incredibly slow and annoying google captcha (that continuously lies about the result to get users to do more image recognition for free, because google is google), why would they have to solve it again if their email is not up to some silly standard?
Finally, why blacklist so many email providers in the first place?
Spammers still have to go through the captcha and they probably have no issue buying "legit" email adresses in bulk.

What part(s) of the site page(s) are affected?

The sign up page.

It uses Google? That's... not great. :( Backdoor way to get everyone's aliases. Free slave labor. No respect for users (and site owners). Yeah, no.

Why not not make a throwaway email, and actually just use a real one? E621 only emails you to verify your account, and that's it. Once you verify you can delete the email and it'll be clean.

I did that years ago, but should not be a requirement for those that don't want to.

furrin_gok said:
Why not not make a throwaway email, and actually just use a real one? E621 only emails you to verify your account, and that's it. Once you verify you can delete the email and it'll be clean.

Because not everyone wants to give their email away to every single site, no matter what the site promises.

furrin_gok said:
Why not not make a throwaway email, and actually just use a real one?

Because the official admin suggestion is to make throwaway accounts, because there's no official statement or rule on which emails are good and which are not, and because there's no reason to use an hard to get email tied to your real life identity (need an ID to get a phone number) on a porn site account.

furrin_gok said:
Once you verify you can delete the email and it'll be clean.

That's not how email works, the providers keep records and those records will show you receiving a mail from e621.
Even if the provider doesn't yet use said records for nefarious purposes such as targeted ads (looking at Google), there's no reason to risk it.

As my personal suggestion, make a e-mail not related to you on a proper platform like Protonmail, and keep the login information somewhere, so that in any case you can access the mailbox. Using true throwaways for registering on websites you're gonna use for a longer time is a bad idea.

Signing ups pretty easy you can just put a simple email adress verify it and boom your on you can also change your email adress if you want to

dragonlord2328 said:
Signing ups pretty easy you can just put a simple email adress verify it and boom your on you can also change your email adress if you want to

Except most temporary email providers are blocked. Finding one that works is a pain in the ass. Usually this is done to stop people making throaway accounts, but the staff are encouraging that so who the hell knows.

For anyone in the future who needs to make a throwaway to get around the dumb blacklist or post in the forums, gmailinator works.

stupidnewdesign said:
Except most temporary email providers are blocked. Finding one that works is a pain in the ass. Usually this is done to stop people making throaway accounts, but the staff are encouraging that so who the hell knows.

For anyone in the future who needs to make a throwaway to get around the dumb blacklist or post in the forums, gmailinator works.

If the website is built around temporary emails, what happens if somebody else requests that email afterwards, then reports that they lost their password, then changes the email attached to the account to a permanent address?
By denying those temporary emails, they're preventing account theft. Make a permanent email that you just never check except when you set up a new account.

furrin_gok said:
If the website is built around temporary emails, what happens if somebody else requests that email afterwards, then reports that they lost their password, then changes the email attached to the account to a permanent address?

Do these sites allow users to request a specific email address? Would be far better to auto-generate random names, preferably with a guarantee to never duplicate one, for precisely that reason. That would be a big security hole otherwise, which would be rather ironic for such a service.

Many explicitely throw-away addresses are issued in sequence and never reused. Hmm

alphamule said:
Many explicitely throw-away addresses are issued in sequence and never reused. Hmm

I know that with Tinypic, some old URLs eventually got reused, but I suppose it makes sense to be more careful when issuing emails. One can only hope they saw sense, then.