Topic: De-implicate earth_pony -> pony

False species not being implicated to real ones is the site standard, making this an oversite.

This does not apply when species literally is the irl species, but is just called as something different in canon. This is the case with earth ponies. They are not a fictional species, they are ponies that are just called as earth pony in canon.

Pakattu_suojakaasuun said:
This does not apply when species literally is the irl species, but is just called as something different in canon. This is the case with earth ponies. They are not a fictional species, they are ponies that are just called as earth pony in canon.

scorbunny is literally a bunny called something different in cannon. The notion is the same, fake shouldn't be implicated to real. Also, last time I checked real pones don't magically get tattoos on their ass and come in bright pink.

Versperus said:
scorbunny is literally a bunny called something different in cannon. The notion is the same, fake shouldn't be implicated to real. Also, last time I checked real pones don't magically get tattoos on their ass and come in bright pink.

I hate MLP in general, but can you humor me with answer to what's the difference between pony and earth pony in that specific universe?

Because I have been in belief that they are regular ponies, but they differenciate themselves in language from other ponies that can e.g. fly. It is kids show after all so calling ponies that can only stay on ground, it makes sense to call them something like earth ponies to highlight the fact.

Because othervice earth pony tag would be reserved for only posts with pony + mlp. So unless mlp universe has some actually visually differenciated ponies from these earth ponies, seperation is only bloat.

Mairo said:
I hate MLP in general, but can you humor me with answer to what's the difference between pony and earth pony in that specific universe?

Because I have been in belief that they are regular ponies, but they differenciate themselves in language from other ponies that can e.g. fly. It is kids show after all so calling ponies that can only stay on ground, it makes sense to call them something like earth ponies to highlight the fact.

Because othervice earth pony tag would be reserved for only posts with pony + mlp. So unless mlp universe has some actually visually differenciated ponies from these earth ponies, seperation is only bloat.

earth pony is a cannon term I think, but the main fact I don't believe they should be implicated is the fact that the mark on their arse is literally magic. It shows up out of nowhere one day.

Considering the species at the end of the day is imaginary, giving them a pass would validate giving other non existent species based off of real ones a pass for implication which is in general goes against fake species aren't given real species implications

Not to mention they don't even look like equines aside from having hooves.

Versperus said:
but the main fact I don't believe they should be implicated is the fact that the mark on their arse is literally magic. It shows up out of nowhere one day.

So if I make a species that looks like 100% regular pig that just has a flower tattoo surrounding it's asshole and call it as magic flower pig, and write some lore that the flower pic around the pig's asshole is magic, it suddenly cannot be tagged as pig just because there is flower tattooed around it's asshole and some external information about the flower being magic?

Pakattu_suojakaasuun said:
So if I make a species that looks like 100% regular pig that just has a flower tattoo surrounding it's asshole and call it as magic flower pig, and write some lore that the flower pic around the pig's asshole is magic, it suddenly cannot be tagged as pig just because there is flower tattooed around it's asshole and some external information about the flower being magic?

If it doesn't exist I wouldn't expect pig to be implicated to it.
Could it look like a pig, and be tagged as a pig? Sure. But it shouldn't automatically have pig associated to the tag.

Also again, the mlp equines don't actually look like equines.

Versperus said:
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Also again, the mlp equines don't actually look like equines.

...99% of the art here.

It's a small-sized equine that gets a magic tattoo. A magic tattoo doesn't change a creature's species.

Random said:
...99% of the art here.

It's a small-sized equine that gets a magic tattoo. A magic tattoo doesn't change a creature's species.

Versperus said:
Could it look like a pig, and be tagged as a pig? Sure. But it shouldn't automatically have pig associated to the tag.

Mairo said:
I hate MLP in general, but can you humor me with answer to what's the difference between pony and earth pony in that specific universe?

Within MLP, ‘pony’ is an umbrella term for earth ponies, unicorns, and pegasi. That being said, I’m of the opinion that the alias should be upheld, as this terminology is only valid within MLP, and this is not an MLP imageboard.

> "alias"

It's an implication. earth_pony implies pony, if it were aliased then all cases of earth_pony would be instead tagged pony...

But otherwise, I have no opinion on the matter. All I was told is that it's OK to have/keep the tag pony on posts with earth_pony tagged, so it could be for simplicities's sake.

Siral_Exan said:
> "alias"

It's an implication. earth_pony implies pony, if it were aliased then all cases of earth_pony would be instead tagged pony...

But otherwise, I have no opinion on the matter. All I was told is that it's OK to have/keep the tag pony on posts with earth_pony tagged, so it could be for simplicities's sake.

fixed title, but ya I don't think it should be removed, I just don't think it should be automatically associated.

I think the implication was mainly done due to convenience, but I kind of agree. In some circumstances, the style the characters are portrayed in makes them look like vague hooved mammals rather than flat out ponies. The iconic curved snouts, for example, look nothing like typical horse snouts.

SOME definitely can warrant the pony tag, so it'a not like a fictional species where you can't tag it as pony, but not all inherently do so. If it looks like a pony, tag like a pony, but only situationally

It was added to give the taggers a clue that MLP pegasi, unicorns, etc should never be tagged as pony (and by implication, horse). The volume of MLP posts is too high to keep organized manually, so additional tagging-aid was required to keep them in some sort of order. Earth pony implies pony, other MLP species do not. That way you can search for MLP pony -earth_pony and fix the mistagged ones relatively easily.

Pakattu_suojakaasuun said:
So if I make a species that looks like 100% regular pig that just has a flower tattoo surrounding it's asshole and call it as magic flower pig, and write some lore that the flower pic around the pig's asshole is magic, it suddenly cannot be tagged as pig just because there is flower tattooed around it's asshole and some external information about the flower being magic?

Yep, MLP should have the MLP tag, pony and tattoo tags

Any chance this thread to be recategorized from General to Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions?

CCoyote said:
Any chance this thread to be recategorized from General to Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions?

post #971403

ImpidiDinkaDoo said:
post #971403

Thank you! ^.^