The Shar Pei is a bit of a funny one, because while the FCI classifies it as a mastiff, it is simultaneously listed as a Spitz-type dog by Wikipedia (having some admixture with the Taimyr wolf, like the Siberian Husky) and shares the general body plan despite its wrinkly and heavy-set appearance.

Also, the domestic_dog page still needs a bit of a cleanup. I have done some grouping together for the Spitz-types (though placed Shar Pei under Mastiff for now) but even that may need some more work.

AgentParadox said:
The Shar Pei is a bit of a funny one, because while the FCI classifies it as a mastiff, it is simultaneously listed as a Spitz-type dog by Wikipedia (having some admixture with the Taimyr wolf, like the Siberian Husky) and shares the general body plan despite its wrinkly and heavy-set appearance.

Also, the domestic_dog page still needs a bit of a cleanup. I have done some grouping together for the Spitz-types (though placed Shar Pei under Mastiff for now) but even that may need some more work.

I trust information like FCI more than wikipedia, honestly. Wikipedia's information regarding things, especially when talking of breeds and and animal classes, have been a huge ass mess. Often lacking important info about a bunch of stuff.

If there's any outside sources citing this spitz info... I'd like to know

I have not found any, so I can only assume that it's a mastiff type, considering what the FCI says.

Edit: Apparently, some Molosser dogs are not "true" Mastiffs but all Mastiffs are Molossers. It's Wikipedia again and unsourced, so it'll be taken with a grain of salt until sources are found.

Edit 2: More classification tweaks may be needed for certain breeds. For example, poodles are a type of bird dog, but currently, poodle doesn't implicate that tag. I guess the problem lies in that miniature and toy poodles have their tags implicate poodle, but they aren't gun dogs like the standard variety is.

A potential fix could have a standard poodle tag that implies both poodle and bird dog, but keep the base poodle separate from bird dog as not all types of poodle are bred for the same purpose. The problem there would potentially lie in what classifies as a "standard" poodle (specifically in the furry fandom) so as to avoid it becoming a wastebasket for all poodles that fit neither the miniature nor toy classification

The page now has all spitz-types properly categorised, and I added the bulldogs (which I then placed under mastiff) and also categorised together the pastoral dogs (herders and livestock guardians), primitive dogs, and toy dogs. I also link-checked to make sure all names were updated to their most recently aliased names, and added a bunch of missing dogs. More work will need to be done, but I think this is a good springboard for now, to prevent too much workload for one person.

Also, the Hungarian Sheepdog has the alternative name of "Komondor", so perhaps there should be a komondor tag aliased to it (or the other way round). (I checked "komondor" and it's an empty artist tag)

AgentParadox said:

Edit 2: More classification tweaks may be needed for certain breeds. For example, poodles are a type of bird dog, but currently, poodle doesn't implicate that tag. I guess the problem lies in that miniature and toy poodles have their tags implicate poodle, but they aren't gun dogs like the standard variety is.

A potential fix could have a standard poodle tag that implies both poodle and bird dog, but keep the base poodle separate from bird dog as not all types of poodle are bred for the same purpose. The problem there would potentially lie in what classifies as a "standard" poodle (specifically in the furry fandom) so as to avoid it becoming a wastebasket for all poodles that fit neither the miniature nor toy classification

Yeah, not implicating bird dog to poodles was a deliberate choice on my end, for the exact reasons you stated. Only the "standard" poodles are considered such, and most others really aren't. At this point it's a broad term for a type of dog that can't be locked down with a dog breed "type" without leaving mistags/problems. I avoided having a "standard poodle" tag also for the reasonings you stated.

AgentParadox said:
The page now has all spitz-types properly categorised, and I added the bulldogs (which I then placed under mastiff) and also categorised together the pastoral dogs (herders and livestock guardians), primitive dogs, and toy dogs. I also link-checked to make sure all names were updated to their most recently aliased names, and added a bunch of missing dogs. More work will need to be done, but I think this is a good springboard for now, to prevent too much workload for one person.

Bulldogs I avoided a molosser implication mainly due to a couple types not being recognized as molossers currently yet. Specifically, they're the Campeiro and Serrano Bulldogs. They are MOST LIKELY molossers, as both are believed to be descended from the Old English Bulldog, but I was a bit overly cautious. I'm unsure about having bulldog type dogs imply mastiff, BUT I can at least have them imply base molosser. I may change my mind down the road and have them imply mastiff, however, so who knows.

EDIT: Oh whoops, had it imply mastiff a while ago anyways. Huh. Anyways I guess I'll tweak with it, and it's fine to stay mastiff for now.

AgentParadox said:
Also, the Hungarian Sheepdog has the alternative name of "Komondor", so perhaps there should be a komondor tag aliased to it (or the other way round). (I checked "komondor" and it's an empty artist tag)

At the time, I didn't do it because it was an artist also had the name, but I will get to doing that in a bit.

I'll check out the wiki and apply implications if I find them to fit, apologies for a late reply!

No problem. It's good to get insight for something!

AgentParadox said:
No problem. It's good to get insight for something!

Glad to have enlightened, dude! I'm always here to explain my reasonings, hahaha, so feel free to ask any time!

I've since added a bunch of missing dogs to bulldog, including the boxer (which is a bulldog type dog) and cleaned some things up

I've moved all appropriate dogs under bulldog, and have also done some more sorting, with most prominently the (otherwise unsorted) mountain dogs and hunting dogs (the latter has become the largest grouping on the page). I've also marked more extinct dogs as such, and added a few more (previously missing) dogs. There are just a few miscellaneous (unsorted) dogs but I'm unsure of whether there are any multi-breed "umbrellas" for them (like rat-catching dogs, which are pretty much always schnauzers, and while there could be a "mascot_dog" tag or the like, the dalmatian would probably be the only breed to fall under there).

There is a lap_dog tag, but it is used on only one post.