Topic: ass_to_mouth - can it be implied?

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Joedere

Member

So I've noticed ass_to_mouth is pretty undertagged. I try to tag it when I see it, but I'm often unsure of whether it's applicable. There are some situations where it's unambiguous, e.g. when there's a cum string from the ass to the mouth or it's a part of a comic. But often it's less clear. Here are the main situations I'm unsure of:

1. One character has cum in their ass and is fellating the other character. It's possible that there's an offscreen character that came in the first character's ass, but does Occam's razor apply? Example:
post #1515076
This one's less clear because there are three characters:
post #301200

2. There are multiple scenes that are not in a clear chronological order but may imply ass_to_mouth depending on how you read them:

post #1490718
post #1987817

Thoughts?

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sneezer22

Member

assuming you mean "implied" as in "the implication system" I'm not sure how without a multi point implication system.

Explanation

example: voluptuous should probably be tagged in any image that has already been tagged solo wide_hips big_breasts

but e621's implication system is a 1-to-1 kind of thing. that probably has to do with:

-not putting too much power into the implications where errors, bad decisions, or reversions could mess the tagging system up too much.

-the idea that moving away from a 1-to-1 system opens up more possibilities for mistakes in auto-generated tags

-it's usually possible and rather easy to narrow down the images that might need to be tagged by searching a specific tag group and then doing it by hand

even if there was a multi-point system, tag groupings would probably have a very hard time capturing your tag since it has to be the same person receiving anal and giving oral in that order. I'm not sure the tags exist to express that. duo oral cum_from_ass definitely doesn't. male_penetrating_female oral cum_from_ass duo might come close but there are still holes in the implication, like not knowing who's ass the cum is coming from, that make it irresponsible. that one only gets close because the two characters have different sexes, for male/male stuff like what you've used as examples.. probably not :/

otherwise that tag seems to heavily rely on "implications"(assumptions) to exist at all. for the examples you posted(top to bottom) I'd say yes, yes, no, yes. the 3rd and 4th pics both seem to flow in a clockwise timeline starting from the top left(if you assume any timeline at all). without the timeline the last 2 pics are just a grouping of sex acts and with it the 3rd is oral then anal while the 4th probably qualifies to be tagged

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Joedere

Member

sneezer22 said:
assuming you mean "implied" as in "the implication system" I'm not sure how without a multi point implication system.

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant 'implied' in the traditional sense, i.e. hinted at but not explicit. I'm not talking about a change to the tag system, just a clarification about when to tag ass_to_mouth.

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