Topic: New tags discussion

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Circeus said:
... You have got to be kidding me OR be far less capable of reading than I ever thought possible.

...Why are you tagging jewelery as a part of a body? "Pectoral" refers to Pectoral Muscles, the muscles at the top front of the torso. I thought you were trying to mention the jewelery as second thing in the same post.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Perhaps the pectoral jewelery would be better tagged as such: pectoral_jewelery. Avoid confusion over what you mean when you say "Pectoral."

well, since there was nothing in that tag (everyone seems well aware that we use pecs), I don't see the problem.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Circeus said:
well, since there was nothing in that tag (everyone seems well aware that we use pecs), I don't see the problem.

Here's some posts that were tagged as pectoral just last month:
post #1086427 post #1086422

It's clearly not a good tag for jewelry. And you must be aware of that, because you're the one who changed those to pecs.

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I just found an image of a bipedal (though hard to tell with this art style) creature running on all fours. Is there a tag for that?

post #123524

The first term that came to mind was galloping but it's hardly used.

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BlueDingo said:
I just found an image of a bipedal (though hard to tell with this art style) creature running on all fours. Is there a tag for that?

post #123524

The first term that came to mind was galloping but it's hardly used.

A fox in humanoid form? That's actually happened in a couple of animes (Cannot recall which off the top of my head though)--especially when it was originally a pure animal who was turned into a human(oid) by some magic or science. Would be good to have a tag for humanoids running on all fours.

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Would scampering (or just scamper) work? My iPhone dictionary defines it as to run, especially with animals or small children, with quick light steps, usually with fear or excitement. Obviously, it can be shortened to run like around like a small animal.

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Siral_Exan said:
Would scampering (or just scamper) work? My iPhone dictionary defines it as to run, especially with animals or small children, with quick light steps, usually with fear or excitement. Obviously, it can be shortened to run like around like a small animal.

I think the "quick light steps" part is the key part of that definition as opposed to the "especially with animals or small children" part. In most cases, "especially x" and "usually x" are not actually part of the definition and is only there to let you know that it tends to involve x more often.

Gallop sounds closer to what I want, but I don't know if that term can apply to bipeds. TVTropes uses Running on all fours for this.

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Circeus said:
Created a wiki page for pectoral because if there's a tag for them already, I don't know about it, and I keep running into these things all the time. Some were in gorget, but a gorget is a piece of armor, not jewelry.

The Egyptian one has a very technical name ("Usekh collar") but it's far too impractical since almost no one would know it.

post #1056020 post #849587 post #994833

actually its ether or both

thru out the past the word has on and off been used for both decorative and practical proposes. wikipedias entry does note that it may also be used for jewelry that similarly covers collar and parts of the shoulder and pecs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorget

you could proubly also use shoulder_collar

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lol_drama as a subtag for lol_comments. I think there are users that want to view posts with the lol_comments tag on them, with or without drama.

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BlueDingo said:
I think the "quick light steps" part is the key part of that definition as opposed to the "especially with animals or small children" part. In most cases, "especially x" and "usually x" are not actually part of the definition and is only there to let you know that it tends to involve x more often.

Gallop sounds closer to what I want, but I don't know if that term can apply to bipeds. TVTropes uses Running on all fours for this.

Sincerely, I don't know if a specific tag is truely necessary; "runing + all_fours" seems enough to me. There is a term in english for "walking on all fours", but I never knew a term for "running on all fours" (also this action seems to be quite uncommon).

About "galloping", I guess we don't need this tag either, since "running" is usable for both biped and quadruped.

e.g.

post #1094913post #1108050

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What about a "zebroid" tag? Zebroid is a hybrid between a zebra and any other equine. This tag would be used not only as umbrella tag for zonkey, zorse, and zebmule (currently empty), but also for hybrids of zebra and a fictional equine like kelpie, pegasus etc.

Note: the word "zebroid" exists, it isn't a neologism.

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Genjar

Former Staff

O16 said:
What about a "zebroid" tag? Zebroid is a hybrid between a zebra and any other equine.

Hm. Since it's not in common use, I'm a bit worried that someone might think that it refers to 'zebra humanoid', similar to insectoid.

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Genjar said:
Hm. Since it's not in common use, I'm a bit worried that someone might think that it refers to 'zebra humanoid', in the same way as insectoid.

I undestand… But I am also planing to write a wiki for this tag (in case of it be acepted, of course) and I would put some examples, good examples ever help.

Changing subject. We should do something about "insectoid"; this tag is simply unnecessary, since we have "anthro" and "animal_humanoid" , which can be applied for any animal (except humans).

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O16 said:
but also for hybrids of zebra and a fictional equine like kelpie,

Wait, isn't kelpie a dog breed?

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We have a tag for a character putting their hands together, but do we have a tag for a character putting their fingers together?

post #1113920

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BlueDingo said:
Wait, isn't kelpie a dog breed?

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We have a tag for a character putting their hands together, but do we have a tag for a character putting their fingers together?

post #1113920

Steepled_fingers is the only one in use for this particular gesture (also known more generally as "steepling")

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Circeus said:
You haven't looked at the actual picture, have you? *insert here joke about judging thumbnails*

Whoops. I gotta start clicking through thumbnails. I read "Fingers together" and thought they meant, y'know, interlocked.

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BlueDingo said:
Wait, isn't kelpie a dog breed?

Kelpie the name for a shape-shifting, aquatic, mitologic creature able to change between human and equine form.

(quick search)

Apparently is also the name for a dog breed, "australian kelpie" to be more specific.

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O16 said:
Kelpie the name for a shape-shifting, aquatic, mitologic creature able to change between human and equine form.

(quick search)

Apparently is also the name for a dog breed, "australian kelpie" to be more specific.

Don't they also catch their prey by getting humans stuck to their backs and drowning them cement-shoe-style?

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Circeus said:
*insert here joke about judging thumbnails*

Don't judge an image by its thumbnail?

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kamimatsu said:
Don't they also catch their prey by getting humans stuck to their backs and drowning them cement-shoe-style?

Supposing you aren't talking about the dog, yes. Also exist some versions in which the kelpie shapeshift into a beautifull woman, seduces unwarned men, atracts them to water and drowns them (if I am not wrong, there are versions that mention sexual intercourse before drowning).

The kelpie reminds me a little of the encantado (brazilian mythology), a pink boto that shapeshift into a beautifull man and seduces women, however drowning is rarelly mentioned.

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leomole said:
Would this apply to ferals also? They're real mostly.

Individuals, yes. Species, no. So Phar Lap would count (he was a famous racehorse from ~1930).

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Furrin_Gok said:
A better example might be Harambe, who actually has images here.

True, but the question still remains: Should we have a copyright tag for him and the other things mentioned? Something like real_world should work.

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I say stick to real_location rather than real_world. Seams easier to handle cleanly.

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Circeus said:
I say stick to real_location rather than real_world. Seams easier to handle cleanly.

real_location would only cover landmarks (locations would be harder to accurately tag). What about people?

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BlueDingo said:
real_location would only cover landmarks (locations would be harder to accurately tag). What about people?

Maybe "real_personaly" or "real_world_personaly", I also thought about "real_person", but this one do not specify that the refered individual is a wellknown person.

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Please, evaluate my last suggestion. I rather read at least one more opinion before go on with it.

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I'm not against the idea of having a real_landmark and real_person tag. The main idea behind a real_world tag is to have a copyright tag for real people and landmarks (and real ferals like Harambe) just like how fictional characters generally have one since there currently isn't one. If nothing else, it would allow users to search/blacklist it just like any other copyright. Of course, the name real_world isn't finalized. I'm open to a better name for it.

I'm also planning to make an organized tag group to list everything covered by this tag.

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So, hey, I know that combining two sorts of tags together is usually considered a bad idea, but I would prefer to be able to blacklist human children separately from furry cubs. Cub seems so unrealistic that I don't mind taking a look from time to time, but explicit drawings of human children just... I would rather not, no matter how toony it is. For the time being, I'll just stick to human young rating:e, but I wouldn't mind the teenagers that get mixed in.

Ultimately, the choice to actually permit this sort of tag relies on an admin making an exception for the rules, but feel free to comment in favor or against the idea.

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Furrin_Gok said:
So, hey, I know that combining two sorts of tags together is usually considered a bad idea, but I would prefer to be able to blacklist human children separately from furry cubs. Cub seems so unrealistic that I don't mind taking a look from time to time, but explicit drawings of human children just... I would rather not, no matter how toony it is. For the time being, I'll just stick to human young rating:e, but I wouldn't mind the teenagers that get mixed in.

The first suggestions that comes to mind are boy and girl since they mean "young male human" and "young female human" respectively, but they're currently aliased away and are almost guaranteed to be grossly mistagged if the aliases were ever lifted.

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Do we have a tag for characters and figures reaching, jumping, popping or bursting out of the 2D/virtual world into the perceived 3D/real world within the image post?

post #71472 post #286723 post #315658 post #297029 post #406563

they are a subtype of breaking the fourth wall but wondering if we had tag for the specific subtype rather then the theme as a whole?

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Ruku said:
Do we have a tag for characters and figures reaching, jumping, popping or bursting out of the 2D/virtual world into the perceived 3D/real world within the image post?

post #71472 post #286723 post #315658 post #297029 post #406563

they are a subtype of breaking the fourth wall but wondering if we had tag for the specific subtype rather then the theme as a whole?

We don't. However, I can't imagine a tag that won't be subject so so much confusion with breaking_the_fourth_wall that we won't inevitably end up aliasing it after a while.

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Circeus said:
We don't. However, I can't imagine a tag that won't be subject so so much confusion with breaking_the_fourth_wall that we won't inevitably end up aliasing it after a while.

meta?

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Ruku said:
Do we have a tag for characters and figures reaching, jumping, popping or bursting out of the 2D/virtual world into the perceived 3D/real world within the image post?

post #71472 post #286723 post #315658 post #297029 post #406563

they are a subtype of breaking the fourth wall but wondering if we had tag for the specific subtype rather then the theme as a whole?

We have "from_drawing_to_reality" (currently 1 post) and "out_of_border", if that helps.

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Genjar said:
Should there be a subtag for large prominent veins?

Lately I've seen a lot of user comments about those. Such as in...
post #680080 post #1137791
...and yeah, the mere veiny_penis tag doesn't seem descriptive enough for those.

Maybe we should create a large_vein tag?

yes if it just 1-3 like the left example, right one is just a normal veiny_penis

large_vein i consider related to other stylistic iconisms like anger_vein

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Genjar

Former Staff

How about an on_roof tag, for characters who are sitting/standing/whatever on a roof?

post #1063214 post #1089656 post #585232

We currently have a roof tag, but that one seems useless for searches. ...roofs are pretty common in any outdoors imagery, and not really worth tagging if it's just part of the background.

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Genjar said:
How about an on_roof tag, for characters who are sitting/standing/whatever on a roof?

...

We currently have a roof tag, but that one seems useless for searches. ...roofs are pretty common in any outdoors imagery, and not really worth tagging if it's just part of the background.

Agree with this...on_roof would be a good tag. Honestly I kind of hate it when someone tags "roof" when there's just a house in the background...like...why not just tag "house" and call it a day? Because I think when people search the roof tag they are looking for like...a rooftop scene with a character or characters standing/sitting/fucking on a roof, not that there's a fucking house in the distance with a roof.

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Genjar

Former Staff

We already have tags such as pokephilia and mechanophilia. Should we start tagging dendrophilia, for non-plant on plant sex?

Might be problematic because it's so hard to spell, but I've seen it used with increasing frequency on various sites (such as 4chan).

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Genjar said:
We already have tags such as pokephilia and mechanophilia. Should we start tagging dendrophilia, for non-plant on plant sex?

Dendrophilia is a love of trees. Phytophilia is a love of plants.

Lol, Australophilia is a word.[/spoiler][/sub]Is it too late to point out that -philia does not actually refer to sexual attraction? -lagnia is the term for sexual attraction (well, actually "lust" but close enough) and -philia refers to love, as in strong liking for something.For example, audiophiles love music but they're not gonna start humping their speakers or anything.

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BlueDingo said:
Dendrophilia is a love of trees. Phytophilia is a love of plants.

Lol, Australophilia is a word.[/spoiler][/sub]Is it too late to point out that -philia does not actually refer to sexual attraction? -lagnia is the term for sexual attraction (well, actually "lust" but close enough) and -philia refers to love, as in strong liking for something.For example, audiophiles love music but they're not gonna start humping their speakers or anything.

It's probably too late to change that now.

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BlueDingo said:
Dendrophilia is a love of trees. Phytophilia is a love of plants.

Lol, Australophilia is a word.[/spoiler][/sub]Is it too late to point out that -philia does not actually refer to sexual attraction? -lagnia is the term for sexual attraction (well, actually "lust" but close enough) and -philia refers to love, as in strong liking for something.For example, audiophiles love music but they're not gonna start humping their speakers or anything.

Or like a bibliophile doesn't hump books. Sometimes the term doesn't even refer to someone who loves something, like how a hemophiliac is not someone who loves blood. In fact, I personally know a hemophobic hemophiliac.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Been working on sorting the holding_tail posts from tail_grab.
Decided to add a couple of experimental tags:

- tail_on_shoulder, because we already have plenty of *_on_shoulder tags.
- double_tail_grab, for posts where one character is grabbing two different tails, one in each hand. Same naming standard as double_handjob, etc.

Dunno if either of these is useful or common enough to keep permanently. But I figured that I might as well tag them, since I have to browse through every single tail_grab post anyway.

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How about a tag for first page of pool? So instead of browsing individual pictures, I could browse the pools itself. (like e-hentai). Sometimes I want to check for neel pools or comics, but the pool listing page on this site is super shity (cant order by score, no thumbnails, search by category, etc).

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qpwoeirutye621 said:
How about a tag for first page of pool? So instead of browsing individual pictures, I could browse the pools itself. (like e-hentai). Sometimes I want to check for neel pools or comics, but the pool listing page on this site is super shity (cant order by score, no thumbnails, search by category, etc).

I presume you know of cover_page, and thus will ignore it.

I thought there was a meta-tag for post # in a pool, turns out I was wrong. I agree.

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Siral_Exan said:
I presume you know of cover_page, and thus will ignore it.

I thought there was a meta-tag for post # in a pool, turns out I was wrong. I agree.

Nop, This new for me. Thanks for pointing out about the cover_page!

But still is not perfect. Some pools does not have cover page at all, they just start on page one, so they will just be missing.

I just want a decent way to search trough all pools.

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I was going to remove the furry_revolution tag (currently artist tag)

FROM post #624638

because 624638 art-piece NOT by FurryRevolution, and thinking subject in image kinda covered by revolution tag (image already has revolution tag).

But then I thought I should ask for a 2nd opinion.

EDIT: perhaps wiki page for furry_revolution could be started pointing to FurryRevolution and revolution?
For the record, only one upload currently tagged with furry_revolution .

(using this thread because thread #191799 suggests this thread for new/low-count tag discussion ... and this is a small tag ... so hope this is appropriate thread)

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EarthFurst2 said:
I was going to remove the furry_revolution tag (currently artist tag) because 624638 art-piece NOT by FurryRevolution, and thinking subject in image kinda covered by revolution tag (image already has revolution tag).

But then I thought I should ask for a 2nd opinion.

Well, Mine doesn't count for much, but... my opinion is that furryrevolution should be removed from that image.

  • It misleads any viewers into thinking that FurryRevolution was involved somehow.
  • The images title was "Furevolution," not Furry Revolution... and besides that, we don't tag image titles, to the best of my knowledge.
  • 'Revolution' rather covers the idea rather firmly. There's nothing about the image that suggests that it it specifically furry versus non-furry... it could be any group of furs versus any other group of furs. And, as such, the image has revolution, war and several similar tags that describe it. I dunno, maybe we should/could add something like charge, or battle_charge, if those tags exist. (The image also depicts one or two indications that they are fighting the 'new world order' like the wallstreet ... er.. building that looks like the Lincoln memorial... but I don't know if we'd have a tag about that, or if it's worth tagging... Wallstreet suggests they ARE in New york city, though.

So, yeah, I'd remove that tag.

(edit: *actually, gonna go ahead and do that. my opinion might not be worth much, but hey.*)

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I skimmed through the 15pages of this thread to see if this had been discussed already.

Wondering what guidelines there are for when a character gets given multiple character tags.

Mild example: Currently all the uploads tagged with sh'sthress are also tagged with sh'sthress_(gingerm).

I used FA search for "sh'sthress" and all the matches were of Gingerm's charcter.

While I appreciate the future-proofness of sh'sthress_(gingerm) as a tag...
should the character's tag just be "sh'sthress"?
Because it seems unlikely another character will also get named Sh'sthress.

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qpwoeirutye621 said:
How about a tag for first page of pool?

inpool:true

alternatively before I discovered that tool I created two sets. one call judge by the pool which indexed the first pages of pools. the other one is non-sexual pool which I added pools I felt was more story driven then focused on porn. but do expect to see sex scenes and other explicit rated images from time to time .

note: I haven't really finish them and i'm not sure if I should even keep maintaining them since "inpool:true" essentially done what would've taken me weeks to do manually. *sight* sometime wish I knew how all these tag things worked on a technical level.

EarthFurst2 said:
While I appreciate the future-proofness of sh'sthress_(gingerm) as a tag...
should the character's tag just be "sh'sthress"?
Because it seems unlikely another character will also get named Sh'sthress.

from what I could infer. most users would simply leave it at sh'sthress and if another character emerge with that name then they began to specify who belong to who. considering most characters are either accommodated by a copyright or a artist tag (sometime both), it wouldn't be too_difficult to separate them.

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Marcopolo22 said:
from what I could infer. most users would simply leave it at sh'sthress and if another character emerge with that name then they began to specify who belong to who. considering most characters are either accommodated by a copyright or a artist tag (sometime both), it wouldn't be too_difficult to separate them.

For that name, I'd just leave it at as Sh'sthress -- it's quite uncommon. I only append artist names if:

1) It's a common feeling name, Joshua, Patricia, Snuffles, etc.
2) If the artist has a lot of characters. I can understand digging an artist's character design.
3) If there's a situation where it satisfies my OCD.

Seriously, I hate it when I see this in the character tags:

  • blitzen_(santa_claus)
  • dasher_(santa_claus)
  • rudolph
  • vixen_(santa_claus)

Or other situation where some characters have 'franchise lables' but this ONE doesn't. you know what I mean.

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Just noticed two new tags- human_prey and submissive_human. They could have their place, at least as much as anthro_penetrating_feral do (and I certainly wouldn't mind a way to filter out these posts) but figured it might be worth discussion first and uh, maybe I'm just having a dyslexic moment but I can't quite figure out what the wiki is trying to say, no offense.

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regsmutt said:
maybe I'm just having a dyslexic moment but I can't quite figure out what the wiki is trying to say, no offense.

Here, the sick, sleepy person will have a look. This can't possibly go wrong.

Nope, those are written in.. hmm.. unclear english. I"ve seen much worse. I feel like the writer normally SPEAKS english more than he writes it. Whichever, though.

I think the general translation is "When humans are totally or partially under the control of a 'higher species' like ferals, anthros SOemtimes sexual, not not always. 'human prey' is about vore and being a 'victim' while sibmissive is probably more sexually than anything

Just noticed two new tags- human_prey and submissive_human. They could have their place, at least as much as anthro_penetrating_feral do (and I certainly wouldn't mind a way to filter out these posts) but figured it might be worth discussion first and uh,

I agree that there could totally be a place for at least one of these tags. not sure about both of 'em though.

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SnowWolf said:
Here, the sick, sleepy person will have a look. This can't possibly go wrong.

Nope, those are written in.. hmm.. unclear english. I"ve seen much worse. I feel like the writer normally SPEAKS english more than he writes it. Whichever, though.

I think the general translation is "When humans are totally or partially under the control of a 'higher species' like ferals, anthros SOemtimes sexual, not not always. 'human prey' is about vore and being a 'victim' while sibmissive is probably more sexually than anything

I agree that there could totally be a place for at least one of these tags. not sure about both of 'em though.

They might be nice to have so that people looking for particular dynamics in mixed form pictures can find what they want. I can see 'submissive' being a bit too vague potentially though. In any case, I'll go ahead and rewrite them in the meantime.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Species combo tags in general are avoided, but human is kind of an odd case since it's both a form and species tag in one.

No precedence for such tags, though. Keeping the latter would mean that we'd end up with various other submissive_<form> tags. Which makes me wary, because submissive_<gender> was a major failure: nobody seems to care about tagging those.

And yes, 'submissive' anything tends to be too vague. (Just check out submissive). In general, we've focused on tagging domination instead of submission, since that meshes better with twys.

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Genjar said:
Species combo tags in general are avoided, but human is kind of an odd case since it's both a form and species tag in one.

No precedence for such tags, though. Keeping the latter would mean that we'd end up with various other submissive_<form> tags. Which makes me wary, because submissive_<gender> was a major failure: nobody seems to care about tagging those.

And yes, 'submissive' anything tends to be too vague. (Just check out submissive). In general, we've focused on tagging domination instead of submission, since that meshes better with twys.

Yeah my gut reaction was "Nuh-uh, that's a species" until I thought about how human is used. There are form-role combo tags for regular penetration, personally I find these to be similar to form_prey/pred tags in use and concept. I guess the question is if form-role tags should be avoided entirely and if they'll get tagged much.

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I'm in that dangerous area of sick where I'm starting to feel better, but communication is still hard. so, please, take my words with a grain of salt and a squirt of hand sanitizer.

I think the greater... thought here... is that the concept of humans being a 'lesser species' is probably a fetish-type-thingy for some people. Just like there are some who enjoy 'furries are a subservient species' stuff. (I'll blame Planet of the Apes.)

So I think tags for it are a good idea. Especially since humans are only allowed in images if they're with something of furry interest.

I think tagging the human over the "dominating furry force" is better though -- because of reasons I can't articulate right now. less false positives while searching maybe? I don't know. I"m obviously not capable of carrying on a rational conversation right now.

I love you all, I'm going back to staring at youtube, and uploading pictures

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Genjar

Former Staff

We already have a fully_clothed tag. Should there be a fully_armored tag, to differentiate posts such as these...
post #1431127 post #1423194 post #1412617
...from these?
post #1431781 post #1414539 post #1414100

Also, if such tag were to be added, should the character be wearing a helm and foot armor for it to apply, or just something like 'over 80% of the character covered in armor'? Posts such as post #1429094 seem pretty close to 'fully armored' to me.

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