Topic: [Question] Tagging the specific species for gryphons

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TheGreatWolfgang

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AFAIK, we don't add the specific lion + eagle + hybrid tags to posts because the gryphon tag itself would be enough for people to know the characters are lion/eagle hybrids.

But not all gryphons follow the traditional lion/eagle combination, a lot of gryphon characters take on different feline/bird combinations to make them unique, e.g. a falcon/snow_leopard gryphon.

In this case, should we tag the specific species that make up the gryphon character as well or should we just leave it with gryphon?

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ImpidiDinkaDoo

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Imho, if it isn't the "standard" gryphon then I don't see the problem in tagging the specific species as well as tagging it as a hybrid

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TheGreatWolfgang

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DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
Imho, if it isn't the "standard" gryphon then I don't see the problem in tagging the specific species as well as tagging it as a hybrid

I'm thinking that way as well, however for the hybrid tag not so much.

Hybrid was specifically left out in implications because they could mean a hybrid of something AND a gryphon. Gryphons and hippogryphs are part of this rule, but chimera was implicated with hybrid since the early days.

There are also taurs and satyrs, but that's opening up a whole different box of problems altogether with half-animals and body types.

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SnowWolf

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Chimera is an awful tag and I hate it. The problem is that someone decided that chimera ought to be the word to describe any hybrid. Which I hate.

The concept -- a tag for critters who's body is obviously different parts -- is a good one, except:

1) a chimera is a specific critter already, made up of a lion, a goat, sometimes a snake and maybe some scorpion. See also: chimera_(mythology)

2) people use this tag all the time for creates who do not meet this idea. I think part of the problem is "this character is identified as a "chimera" so they are clearly a chimera.

Let's find out :D

I'm gonna ignore the low hanging fruit of parent/child and the unapproved picture of "emilynn the western terminator zombie chimera" which will probably be deleted for being human...

THe last 10 (actually 5) chimera posts!

post #1675600 - species are... chimera dragon otter.Looking, these species seem to refer exclusively to jaye_atheron who seems, in other pictures to be a dragon otter. Well I can see that in other pictures of him, but there he just looks like a purple stripey critter that could be an otter with no wings He is not made of obvioust dragon chunk and obvious otter chunks.

Conclusion: Not a chimera, doesn't say he's a chimera though. That I know of.

post #1675303 - 3 character species tags are chimera, dragon, furred dragon and hybrid. Uh. Well, the characters are lelou_(chimera) and ruu_(dragon) Okay. lelou is either the gray one or the red one. The red one seems more likely... but II dunno. Either way, I see a dragon and some kind of canine, and no obvious 'chunks' of species.

Conclusion: Not a chimera, ID's as a chimera.

post #1674930 - the sheep thing is a digimon. I don't know what the other is, but the artist says that they are a chimera "A mix oh Canine, Equine, possibly Cervine or Caprine. And maybe some other stuff too"

conclusion: COULD be a chimera -- but really, looks like a dog with horns and hooves. Self ID'd as a chimera.

post #1673375 - animal_humanoid, chimera -- this is.. er.. not. This should be a manticore, I beleive. There's no info from the artist, it was just one picture of many posted at once.

conclusion: Actually a chimera -- buggy tail, furry legs, human torso! CHIMERA! no self IDing either way.

post #1670159 - This looks like a dog. maybe a digimon. Uploaded by the artist. she is, according to devart tags, a dog goat chimera. she doens't LOOK like it though.

conclusion - not a chimera, self ID's as a chimera

Okay this is taking longer than I thought.

that's 5: 1 chimera and 1 maybe chimera, 3 chimera self-ids.

GLANCING at the next 5, looks like a similar ratio: one chimera, and several hybrids. didn't look to see what people called them.

anyway.

chimera is badly used as a tag, because it's a cool word people like to use to describe characters.

I honestly think I'd get rid of it if I could. Maybe replace it with something like "mix-n-match_body" or something more clever.

gryphon would TECHNICALLY count as a chimera by our rules. but.. yeah.

As for unusual gryphons, I'd tag 'em with different species. I like my sneepgryphs :p

potentially relevant is this set I made

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