Hello :3

I wanted to report a mistake with an implication which should be removed, but it seems that normal users can't do that :) As I recently tagged a pic with "Snow_Leopard" I saw it implyied the tag "Leopard". Now, snow leopards aren't technically leopards, it's just a name given for similarity much like "sea lion", "whale shark" or "sea horse", tho it's not as easy to know the difference. Snow leopards aren't even in the same genus as leopards, belonging to the "Uncia" genus, where leopards are in the "Panthera" genus. I'll provide links to the wiki to check, but you can trust a vet on that :)

See ya, and thanks for your time ^^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_leopard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard

Seems like a valid point.

.....Did I just get schooled???

Questions: Does the technical difference make the search function any less useful? Would someone searching leopard find unwanted snow_leopard images due to the snow_leopard->leopard implication? Would anyone searching leopard care whether they saw snow_leopard images or not?

Leopard: Panthera pardus

Snow Leopard: Panthera uncia

Snow Leopards are classified as being in the Panthera genus by the International Union for Conservation of Nature.

Not to mention that they look strikingly similar. That's the main point.

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The only visible difference is coloration and pattern. And it's not like the distinction between lions and tigers where they're definitely not in the same genus. The relation between snow leopards and normal leopards is ambiguous.
Plus, we have fucking blue leopards here.

I vote for keeping the alias.

SirAntagonist said:
Leopard: Panthera pardus
Snow Leopard: Panthera uncia
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I vote for keeping the alias.

indeed, implication is correct

SirAntagonist said:
Leopard: Panthera pardus

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This image is actually NOT a Leopard, it is infact a Cheetah, note the iconic tear-drop markings, and that the "Dots" are flat dots, not rosettes { Neither Cheetahs, nor King Cheetahs, will ever have rosettes, if it's got rosettes it's either a hybrid species, or it's not a cheetah. King cheetahs have very long "Streaks", but retain their smaller siblings tear-drop eye markings.} Furries just don't seem to have a basic idea of what the very major differences between a Cheetah, Leopard, or Jaguar are. But if it has the tear drops, its most likely a cheetah.

http://www.petsugar.com/Spot-Differences-Between-Leopards-Jaguars-Cheetahs-3271875

Princess_Celestia said:
This image is actually NOT a Leopard, it is infact a Cheetah, note the iconic tear-drop markings, and that the "Dots" are flat dots, not rosettes { Neither Cheetahs, nor King Cheetahs, will ever have rosettes, if it's got rosettes it's either a hybrid species, or it's not a cheetah. King cheetahs have very long "Streaks", but retain their smaller siblings tear-drop eye markings.} Furries just don't seem to have a basic idea of what the very major differences between a Cheetah, Leopard, or Jaguar are. But if it has the tear drops, its most likely a cheetah.

http://www.petsugar.com/Spot-Differences-Between-Leopards-Jaguars-Cheetahs-3271875

Wait, shit.

Not that pic. THIS one.

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I actually wanted the second one to be this:

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But I guess that one works too.

This is why I shouldn't post with 80 tabs open.

Guys, many of you seem to miss the point. To reply to may of you, pointing out the "Panthera uncia" thing: genus is still disputed, but currently ITIS is listing it as Uncia Uncia.
http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=183811
But even if fitting in the Panthera genus the implication would stil be inappropriate. A leopard is a specific animal, not a generic name for more species like a "bug". Leopards live in africa, are yellowish and do not have that "fluffy tail" which most of you love about the snow leopard =P
I think it's fairly simple to see a difference and it's not just a technicality: if you're looking for the spotted yellowish spotted african cat pics then the grey fluffy-tailed one shouldn't come up!

Also for whoever pointed out that since (and if) they're both "Panthera" the implication is valid, you might wanna re-think that:

Panthera leo (lion)
Panthera tigris (tiger)
Panthera onca (jaguar)

do they seem the same to you? :)

(and contrary to what someone has previously stated, lion and tigers are in the same genus, as most big cats)

The only thing Uncia and Panthera have in common is being both felids (and not "felines" as it's erroneusly stated almost everywhere, but THAT is a technicality, as most people use feline to simply imply a cat or big cat).

I'd also be careful when saying "they are similar" or "just a pattern difference", just take a look and judge it for yourself!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Namibie_Etosha_Leopard_01edit.jpg

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schneeleopard-P1020506.jpg

Even more, leopards have the melanistic variant (the so called "panther" is just a "overly black" leopard or jaguar, not a species itself) while snow leopards don't.

Yeah, yeah... we're all just here for the pr0n... but if we do love animals knowing them a bit can't hurt :P

Valion said:
AP Bio 101

My main point wasn't the genus. Sure, if we're talking about it in a strictly biological sense, we should have tags for phylums, subphylums, class, etc. The only visible difference between a leopard and a snow leopard is coloration and fur length, and keep in mind we're in the furry fandom.

What the fuck would we tag this as?

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or this?

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or fuckin' THIS?

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What I'm getting at here is that you're thinking in terms of tagging that would be appropriate for a scientific image bank. If I want to see a leopard, It's not going to traumatize me if a snow leopard come up.

But if you are going by genus, let's alias lions, tigers, cheetahs, and jaguars to the panther tag. Even though it's mostly reserved here for monochromatic large cats.

We aren't too scientific here. Hell, the tag for vagina is pussy.

@SirAntagonist
We need to get people from CSI to zoom in and enhance pictures so we can see DNA code, and determine species.
Simple, and completely TWYS.

First and Third are hybrid species of some sort, second is more jaguar then anything else

in a strictly biological sense, we should have tags for phylums, subphylums, class, etc.

Geez, as if I'd ever expect a porn site to be scientific! I never meant any of that. I just wanna respect animal's names. It's not like I'm pointing out some subtle difference between those two. Snow leopard is not a variety of leopard, they are two completely different species and most users can tell them apart.

The only visible difference between a leopard and a snow leopard is coloration and fur length, and keep in mind we're in the furry fandom.

And the only visible difference between a golden retriever and a labrador is fur length. Or the only visible difference between a Panther and a jaguar is color. Still they each have their tags and are surely not the same thing.

If I want to see a leopard, It's not going to traumatize me if a snow leopard come up

By this line this whole tagging system is useless. You're not going to get traumatized even if a penis shows up when you look for boobs, but that doesn't mean that we don't try to correct mistakes in implications.

But if you are going by genus, let's alias lions, tigers, cheetahs, and jaguars to the panther tag.

This really made no sense. They're all "Panthera" genus, not panthers. Panthera=/=Panther

Now if you'd stop for just about a minute simply trying to antagonize (is your nick a coincidence?) everything I say, you'd see I'm just trying to point out something extremely simple and useful. A animal was implying a different animal. That's it! You'd have corrected it if "sea_lion" implyied "lion". Just because you don't see or don't care about the difference it doesn't mean they're the same animal, or that others don't care/notice as well.

I'd have never thought that such a simple request would have caused such a fuss, I'd have expected a "oh, right, lemme fix it". Things are never so simple on the internet, where everyone's an expert.

PS
Learning some actual biology never killed anyone, especially if you'd go around quoting IUCN and saying lions and tigers aren't in the same genus.