What do you all think about using kemono as an umbrella tag for anthro characters drawn in the Japanese-style (usually depicted as a human with animal ears)?

A grey area though: Posts that are noticeably 'furry' (more fur than skin), but still drawn in the japanese kemono style:

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Not to derail the thread, but this kind of alludes to setting up some kind of tag-based distinction between eastern and western art styles.

Basically, if we take this idea to its logical end, we'll have eastern-styled_artwork and western-styled_artwork tags.

Thoughts?

KloH0und said:
Not to derail the thread, but this kind of alludes to setting up some kind of tag-based distinction between eastern and western art styles.

Basically, if we take this idea to its logical end, we'll have eastern-styled_artwork and western-styled_artwork tags.

Thoughts?

Have fun policing the arguing between users over whether a particular piece is western or eastern themed. And may God have mercy on those pieces caught somewhere in the middle.

KloH0und said:
Not to derail the thread, but this kind of alludes to setting up some kind of tag-based distinction between eastern and western art styles.

Basically, if we take this idea to its logical end, we'll have eastern-styled_artwork and western-styled_artwork tags.

Thoughts?

That doesn't sound half-bad!

Since there's no current way to reliably search for artwork based on western/eastern art-style

titaniachkt said:
That doesn't sound half-bad!

Since there's no current way to reliably search for artwork based on western/eastern art-style

I'm also fond of the idea.

But...

Digital_Kindness said:
Have fun policing the arguing between users over whether a particular piece is western or eastern themed. And may God have mercy on those pieces caught somewhere in the middle.

This is my primary concern. The best solution I think is to reserve those tags for images that are definitively within one style or the other. If there's any gray area, then the image gets neither tag.

Oh man I forgot all about kemono. Meant to nuke that tag ages ago. All it means is beast fur person, and there are better ways of distinguishing eastern art, like the tag mentioned above. I don't like the idea of a western tag though, as that would just be tag bloat, since it would apply to sooooo much art.

ippiki_ookami said:
All it means is beast person

this this this and this

KloH0und said:
The best solution I think is to reserve those tags for images that are definitively within one style or the other. If there's any gray area, then the image gets neither tag.

I agree with this.

ippiki_ookami said:
...All it means is beast person...

Well, let's just tag it as furry and not_furry, then :P

If you ever try to set up tags to differentiate east- and west-style artwork, PLEASE for the love of all that is holy, warn me first, so I can 1) get plenty of popcorn, 2) put on very long rubber boots, and 3) clear my calendar for the next week at least.

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ippiki_ookami said:
Oh man I forgot all about kemono. Meant to nuke that tag ages ago. All it means is beast person, and there are better ways of distinguishing eastern art, like the tag mentioned above. I don't like the idea of a western tag though, as that would just be tag bloat, since it would apply to sooooo much art.

You've got a point for all of those

There's a gap in the species tags between anthro species and humans though

Would you all label those first 3 posts in the OP with animal ears & tails as human? The ones with cat-ears & tails already have the catgirl species, which is a gender-specific species tag, and that's pretty odd

Even if it *were* to be the norm, there's no umbrella tag (e.g. borzoi -> canine) for it
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As for the eastern/western tagging, I do agree it would be a challenge to effectively implement, but that shouldn't be a reason not to have any way to search for them besides source hunting & other inconsistent methods

However, if the majority of you think such a tag system is too much trouble to actively maintain, that's fine too

titaniachkt said:
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You've got a point for all of those

There's a gap in the species tags between anthro species and humans though

Would you all label those first 3 posts in the OP with animal ears & tails as human?

What about animal_ears tag? Yes, I also think that its name is stupid and misleading.

Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
What about animal_ears tag? Yes, I also think that its name is stupid and misleading.

Animal_ears is useful when we have a human with animal ears yet cant tell what kind of animal, it can also apply to fake headband ears

As much as i enjoy the furry art here, it was my never ending search for mithra which led me here. The nekomimi tag is not allowed for the reason that english tags are preferred. kemono should not be applied for the same reason. As for the catgirl tag, that is sadly under used, I simply haven't found the time or energy to undertake the project. We also have foxgirl, wolfgirl, and more. animal_ears seems to be the current umbrella tag used, which is another interpretation of kemonomimi (I know, not quite the original suggestion). While tags like the ones I listed are gender specific *girl, short of going to the *mimi style tags, the current ones are about as efficient as any. I, too would like to see something different, though I believe we have encountered an issue equal to the one regarding cuntboy and dickgirl, which I would like to see replaced with futa(nari), not that it is likely to happen.
On the other hand, I believe that many people searching for Japanese style catgirls and other kemonomimi, are familiar with those style tags.
I don't know how many hands I can use, but nekomimi and kemonomimi would really stand out next to all the other tags, and I doubt they would translate to other languages, which I think is another concern we need to consider.

If solid differentiation is implemented between furries and "humans who have ears and a tail", my blacklist will get a new addition. I've been looking for a way to get rid of the animal ears crowd, but haven't felt the animal_ears tag is trustworthy enough.

I knew this thing would come in handy some day.

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edidaf said:
That is something that bugs the fuck out of me, when I see catgirls tagged as human. They may not be furry by the standards of this site (or the furry community at large), but I have yet to see any human with cat ears or a cat tail. It has taken all of my self control to not nuke that annoyance, mostly for fear of my precious 0 score being replaced with one of those nasty red numbers.

Well the thing is, if you dont see a tail you can be unsure or if the animal ears you cant tell if its feline or fox without a tail. Or if its a fake headband ears, Animal_ears tag comes in handy

MaShCr said:
I knew this thing would come in handy some day.

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You forgot the 120% "dangerously cheesy" addition. Your chart is flawed!

If we're going to have any art style tags I would suggest;

- Chiaroscuro
- Ukiyo-e

Since those are distinct, recogniseable styles which are most likely going to be definite, historical examples with little ambiguity.