Topic: Tag Alias: masturbation_sleeve -> cocksleeve

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

My first thought when you wrote "masturbation_sleeve" was not cocksleeve, it was something much more gross. But maybe I spend too much time on reddit, where "cumbox" is an in joke.

On the alias, I'm OK with it, but I rarely use either term so I'm not exactly knowledgeable in the area.

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Tokaido said:
My first thought when you wrote "masturbation_sleeve" was not cocksleeve, it was something much more gross. But maybe I spend too much time on reddit, where "cumbox" is an in joke.

You make me wish I would have thought to suggest it as an alias as a joke, hoping nobody would notice.

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Personally against it for a variety of reasons.

I never heard cocksleeve being used outside of niche porn, mostly with the penetrated person being barely as big as the penetrating penis.
Possible confusion with 'penis sleeve' (Wiki: "A penis sleeve is a cylindrical device that is placed on the shaft of the penis, with the aim of increasing stimulation for the person being penetrated. They often have soft bumps intended to provide further stimulation.").
I remember most people using onahole, but that is very likely biased observation on my part and a bigger prevalence of those in Japanese culture than in western culture.
Fleshlight may be a specific brand but it sounds better than cocksleeve.

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NotMeNotYou said:
Personally against it for a variety of reasons.

I never heard cocksleeve being used outside of niche porn, mostly with the penetrated person being barely as big as the penetrating penis.
Possible confusion with 'penis sleeve' (Wiki: "A penis sleeve is a cylindrical device that is placed on the shaft of the penis, with the aim of increasing stimulation for the person being penetrated. They often have soft bumps intended to provide further stimulation.").
I remember most people using onahole, but that is very likely biased observation on my part and a bigger prevalence of those in Japanese culture than in western culture.
Fleshlight may be a specific brand but it sounds better than cocksleeve.

Implication: e621 -> not_niche_porn

Joking aside, there isn't really have a generic term for these (like dildo) since they have a relatively small market. I didn't know about the penis sleeves though. I'd be fine with cocksleeve or fleshlight as long as all of the various names (onahole, Tenga, masturbation_sleeve) were aliased/implicated to it.

Also, whatever is picked should also be implicated to sex_toy.

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Most american adult toys websites simply call them "masturbators".
More specifically vagina shaped ones are sometimes called "pocket pussies", though I highly doubt anyone is carrying one around in a pocket.

For tagging I think onahole is the best option, it's the japanese term for it, a lot of the internet knows the term, and using "masturbators" would be awful and confusing.

The only other decent alternative would be "penetrable_sex_toy".
This being the most technically accurate version possible.

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Alias denied. The following changes were made instead:

Pending:

  • Alias: cock_sleeve -> penetrable_sextoy (pending) - Needs some cleanup, may need to be aliased elsewhere due to mixed meaning.
    • Small character being "used as a penetrable sex toy"
    • Various penis clothing (cock_warmer)
    • Penis extenders

Updated by anonymous

Para, really nice seeing you go through these implications and aliases like a hot horsecock through butter.

Updated by anonymous

Added and approved an alias for pocket_pussy to --> penetrable_sextoy and an alias for artificial_vagina to --> penetrable_sextoy since these were also smaller tags being used for the same type of sex toy. This will help keep them all in the same spot.

I also went through cock_sleeve and about half of it was tiny characters on big cocks (basically size_difference + ridiculous_fit), while the other half was penetrable_sextoy. With a few cock_warmers scattered in as well. And that's really too mixed to send anywhere safely. So I cleaned it out and then aliased cocksleeve/cock_sleeve to --> invalid_tag.

So that finishes up the last of it.

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Tuvalu said:
Sorry for the bump, but would something like cock_sleeve_(disambiguation) not be better than just invalidating it?

"penetrable_sextoy" is generic enough to sidestep any and all argument about which tag is "clearest". Plus it has the not insignificant bonus of being hard to misremember once you know it, whereas you always have to remember whether the _sleeve tags are in one or two words.

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Circeus said:
"penetrable_sextoy" is generic enough to sidestep any and all argument about which tag is "clearest". Plus it has the not insignificant bonus of being hard to misremember once you know it, whereas you always have to remember whether the _sleeve tags are in one or two words.

Double negatives everywhere. 0.0

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Tuvalu said:
Sorry for the bump, but would something like cock_sleeve_(disambiguation) not be better than just invalidating it?

Necropostmancing this thread to say that the above suggestion seems to still be valid

Especially since a tag for one of the situations the invalidated tag covered doesn't seem to exist anymore*

\* see below for a possible alternative

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Long Version

Circeus said:
"penetrable_sextoy" is generic enough to sidestep any and all argument about which tag is "clearest". Plus it has the not insignificant bonus of being hard to misremember once you know it, whereas you always have to remember whether the _sleeve tags are in one or two words.

See:

(emphasis mine)

furrypickle said:
I also went through cock_sleeve and about half of it was tiny characters on big cocks (basically size_difference + ridiculous_fit), while the other half was penetrable_sextoy. With a few cock_warmers scattered in as well. And that's really too mixed to send anywhere safely. So I cleaned it out and then aliased cocksleeve/cock_sleeve to --> invalid_tag.

That's true though, about the name

There's a fairly low count tag called living condom, wiki says:

A situation in which a live creature is used as a "condom" or "cock sleeve". The creature in question does not necessarily have to perform the implied function of a condom (e.g. contraception) but only has to serve as a covering for the penis in question.

Also can refer to the inanimate object condom being given anthropomorphic qualities to make it "alive".

Aside from the death by penis posts, there were a handful of interesting examples:

post #182221
possible example of living_condom
post #182222
possible example of living_condom
post #811890
closer to 'cock_sleeve'
post #315574
possible example of living_condom
post #299718
closer to 'cock_sleeve'
post #489179
very possible example of living_condom
post #67214
???
post #683985
literal example of living_condom

Short Version


*So based on the usage of the living_condom tag, in conjunction with the results furrypickle mentioned (see above quote in this post, and examples in the Long Version),

I believe that there is indeed a need for some disambiguated 'cock_sleeve' tag, or some equivalent

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Wait, why are we aliasing things like fleshlights and tenga? Those are (or should be) copyright tags, as they're company names. Their products also look a good deal different from one another--The Fleshlight has the same shape of a flashlight when sealed up, the Fleshlight Flight has a design more like an air freshener, while the Tenga has quirky little designs like bulbs and knobs.
Then there's onaholes. My god these things are not subtle at all--Either there is no casing, or the casing is designed to look specifically like what it is: a sex toy. Pocket_pussy is apparently a nickname for the Onahole! I cannot find out if Onahole is a brand or just the name of "Nonsubtle masturbation sleeves" in general, though.

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🎵Cocksleeves was all my joy
🎵Cocksleeves was my delight
🎵Cocksleeves was my heart of gold
🎵And who but my sir/ma'am cocksleeves

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