Topic: Tag Alias: suzumiya haruhi no yuuutsu -> the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya

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English or not, you could keep her name in the right order.

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Foobaria said:
English or not, you could keep her name in the right order.

whut

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ippiki_ookami said:
whut

Her name is Suzumiya Haruhi, not Haruhi Suzumiya.

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Foobaria said:
Her name is Suzumiya Haruhi, not Haruhi Suzumiya.

Suzumiya is her last name and Haruhi is her first. The Japanese order names by last, first opposed to the western first, last. In the English title her name is ordered by first, last to match with western naming traditions.

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720p said:
Suzumiya is her last name and Haruhi is her first. The Japanese order names by last, first opposed to the western first, last. In the English title her name is ordered by first, last to match with western naming traditions.

Which is absurd. Transliteration for different accents is one thing, but you don't get to just twist around somebody's name because you feel like it. My own family's last name was stuck in a blender by immigration generations ago, because they decided it was too hard to pronounce, and that's still insulting to this day.

But if that's how the actual localization is titled in English, I guess it can't be argued. It's still asinine, though.

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Reversing the name orders, and using the translated version seems pretty disrespectful

It baffles me as to why people would want to do this

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Foobaria said:
Transliteration for different accents is one thing, but you don't get to just twist around somebody's name because you feel like it

oh my god this is like universally accepted practice stop inventing butthurt

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null0010 said:
oh my god this is like universally accepted practice stop inventing butthurt

"We've done it, like, forever!" =/= we should keep doing it. It's called "Now that people are more educated and actually know things, since anime is no longer the underground niche it once was, let's actually do it right."

It's like the word "Indian" when not talking about somebody from India. It is debatable what the actual term should be, and even the people in question have different preferences, but calling them "indians" anymore is just stupid. Setting aside "butthurt" it's just flat-out provably wrong, based on a misunderstanding in the first place.

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Foobaria said:
"We've done it, like, forever!" =/= we should keep doing it. It's called "Now that people are more educated and actually know things, since anime is no longer the underground niche it once was, let's actually do it right."

It's like the word "Indian" when not talking about somebody from India. It is debatable what the actual term should be, and even the people in question have different preferences, but calling them "indians" anymore is just stupid. Setting aside "butthurt" it's just flat-out provably wrong, based on a misunderstanding in the first place.

What are you going on about? There's been no misunderstanding. This isn't a matter of trying to Westernize somebody else's culture. In Japan, the family name comes before the individual name, and in the west, the individual name comes before the family name. So, when they use our names, they swap them, and when we use their names, we swap them. Nobody gets offended. It's just a formatting process that makes things easier for everyone.

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Oh you people. Have you ever heard anyone here say Miyamoto Shigeru?

It's pretty normal to switch it. People are looking for something to bitch about

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Foobaria said:
It's like the word "Indian" when not talking about somebody from India. It is debatable what the actual term should be, and even the people in question have different preferences, but calling them "indians" anymore is just stupid. Setting aside "butthurt" it's just flat-out provably wrong, based on a misunderstanding in the first place.

most indians use the word "indian"

<-- half chippewa-cree

MaShCr said:
It's just a formatting process that makes things easier for everyone.

^

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Oh look, this thread got derailed too, what a surprise...

Can someone please make the alias?

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Riversyde said:
Oh look, this thread got derailed too, what a surprise...

Can someone please make the alias?

do you have any idea how many clicks that takes

god

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