Topic: Tag distingtion : Oviposition inside someone

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

As of now, the oviposition tag encompasses two things : Laying eggs and laying eggs inside another organism. While those two fetishes are closely related, most people have a completely different opinion on both fetishes, and I believe it might be beneficial to separate these two.

A discussion on the IRC channed brought up the potential tags "oviduction" and "implantation". Also, we should discuss about wether we should create a new tag and relabel the related contenant or create two new tags implying oviposition.

Updated by 31h253

I am in favor of having egg_laying and oviduction -> oviposition (imply)

Updated by anonymous

I'd say have egg_laying on both, but implantation on those were their laying eggs inside other creatures; this way they both get the proper tag WITHOUT tag bloat.

Updated by anonymous

Good idea, I think I'll do that, also bumping thread so I don't forget

Updated by anonymous

So what you're saying egg_laying should remain an alias of oviposition, but oviduction/implantation should have its own tag so that, instead of making an extra tag for egglaying, we could just have the users exclude it from their search query?
I'm in favor of that.

About the term oviduction : I made it up in a discussion about CoC, it comes from ovi (egg) and ductilis (to lead/to conduct). I'm starting to get more and more used to it, but then again, maybe implementation would be more recognisable to the average joe.

Updated by anonymous

Okay this is what we will do

oviposition will be aliased to egg_laying, and oviduction will imply egg_laying

Sound good everyone?

Updated by anonymous

Rainbow_Dash said:
Okay this is what we will do

oviposition will be aliased to egg_laying, and oviduction will imply egg_laying

Sound good everyone?

So is it going to be implantation or oviduction? I'm all for Latin roots but Average Joe gets angry when even google doesn't know what a word means.

Updated by anonymous

MaShCr said:
So is it going to be implantation or oviduction? I'm all for Latin roots but Average Joe gets angry when even google doesn't know what a word means.

Implantation could imply any object being "Stuck in a person", a cybernetic being installed in a human is called an implant, thus, implantation. So really it would be implantation with "Oviduction" Aliased to it. Then users who want to find THAT variant can search "oviposition/egg_laying Implantation/oviduction" As alis' let you search for either version and result in the same thing, while those who DONT want "Eggs inside" can search "Ovi/egg -Implantation/oviduction"

Updated by anonymous

Doesn't that make a lot of boolean operations just for the sake of not having to make a new tag? Implantation already exists, but is practically unused.
And I'm not too fond combining/substracting tags. By excluding specifically what is or isn't tagged the way you specified, you're going to miss on a lot of contenent that's simply mistagged. Not that this doesn't apply to single tags, but... oh well, maybe I'm just crazy.
I'm in favor of using oviduction and linking to it in both the egglaying/oviposition and implantation wiki pages. Even though Google won't know what the word means, that should be enough hints for most people.

Updated by anonymous

I agree that a change needs to be made, but reading this forum thread just confused me. I find dragons laying eggs to be Hot; I find dragons having eggs laid IN them to be Not Hot. Given that, what are the current proposed changes, and what would they mean for me and my search methods?

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31h253 said:
I agree that a change needs to be made, but reading this forum thread just confused me. I find dragons laying eggs to be Hot; I find dragons having eggs laid IN them to be Not Hot. Given that, what are the current proposed changes, and what would they mean for me and my search methods?

Your current method to avoid that would be to just endure it, or search for oviposition -implantation, which contains 6 images, so you won't get very far with that.
What I'm suggesting is to make a tag for images containing egg implantation (or oviduction), which would allow people to search for either one or the other, as both are very different fetishes.

EDIT : Just spent a minute or two putting some contenent into the oviduction tag, just so that it actually exists. That should be enough for now, but I might write a wiki page eventually.

Updated by anonymous

(Yes, double posting. I'm terribly sorry.)
I'd still like to know what's the status on this. I'd be happy to help sorting images between those two tags, but egg_laying still aliases to oviposition and oviduction doesn't imply anything yet. I'm not sure if it's the intended behavior, could someone state it out explicitly? It wold be nice IMO to have two different tags, especially to sort out all the uncategorized images in oviposition.

Updated by anonymous

Gah. I'm just going to necro this thread, then go create an egg_implantation tag. There are 937 images tagged oviposition. I will go through and apply egg_implantation on all the ones that involve eggs being laid into a character.

I know it's not the oviduction tag that the thread wanted, but this was dropped on the floor two years ago, and I actually still have an interest in this thread. Egg_implantation is completely unused and can be aliased into oviduction if that's the general preference. I think egg_implantation is a more distinct tag, anyways.

(If I could have my way with the implications, I'd make "oviposition" a parent tag, and then have "egg_laying" and "egg_implantation" be separate sub-tags which both imply oviposition.)

EDIT: Wait, no. Better idea. The new tag will be egg_insertion instead.

EDITx2: It's done! The egg_insertion tag has been populated as a subset of the oviposition tag. This is one tag whose birth I will be a long time forgetting. What a literal nest of monsters! If anyone wants to check my work, well mister, you're a better man than I. Feel free to alias egg_insertion to oviduction now, or vice versa. Whatever, really. I now understand with the clarity of hindsight why this task remained incomplete for two years.

And what was the real lesson? Don't leave things in the fridge.

Updated by anonymous

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