From where_is_your_god_now:
"A common saying used when a horrible event occurs. As a tag, identical in usage to what_has_science_done."
So why do we have both if they really are "Identical in usage?"
Updated by memeboy
Topic: "what_has_science_done" and "where_is_your_god_now"
Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions
They aren't identical in usage. The wiki just needs fixing.
what has science done is more for when it seems science related or caused by freakish experiments, etc.
where_is_your_god_now is more for stuff which doesn't have any obvious connection to science specifically, but there still this "oh no/we're doomed/ what has someone done/ this shouldn't be possible or be allowed to happen/ something has gone terribly wrong" connotations.
The reaction can be similar, but the content and purpose is somewhat different. There are times when one would fit and not the other, etc.
Updated by anonymous
furrypickle said:
They aren't identical in usage. The wiki just needs fixing.what has science done is more for when it seems science related or caused by freakish experiments, etc.
where_is_your_god_now is more for stuff which doesn't have any obvious connection to science specifically, but there still this "oh no/we're doomed/ what has someone done/ this shouldn't be possible or be allowed to happen/ something has gone terribly wrong" connotations.
The reaction can be similar, but the content and purpose is somewhat different. There are times when one would fit and not the other, etc.
Makes sense to me. These particular tag names aren't quite as... intuitive as most, though.
Updated by anonymous
Yeah... that doesn't really describe usage... at all really. It's as if you were to describe abstract art as "when it doesn't really look at anything and usually has lots of pretty colors", true in some cases but ultimately missing the point. Which brings me to my own point... that they are more of an artistic/psychological theme than anything you could define objectively. While we could technically rename them, I think it would probably ruin the culture that surrounds them and I'm against doing so without a lot of deep careful discussion.
Anyways, let's see here... We have what_has_science_done, where_is_your_god_now, what, why, and a few misc tags (which are mostly just offshoots of the other ones) such as what_has_nature_done and what_has_art_done. Nightmare_fuel may also fall into this category, but it is a lot easier to define objectively.
Notes I've gathered so far:
All of these tags have the following in common:
1. This post is unusual.
2. This post deserves recognition for being unusual.
3. This post is the best/worst of the unusual.
A lot of these will tend to apply as well:
4. I don't even know what I'm looking at.
5. Whoever came up with this is either talented, psychotic, or both.
6. I can't even begin to describe this using tags.
7. This is the best shot I've got at warning others about this post.
8. I am unlikely to find this outside of the internet.
There are a few issues with these tags. For one they are all kind of mixed into each other and probably need some sort of cleaning.
Definitions and examples
Click on the examples below at your own risk.
Note that most of the posts have (or could have) more than one of these tags.
- where_is_your_god_now
- Theme: Not always frightening but often deeply unsettling. Overlaps a lot with nightmare_fuel. Edit: I misunderstood this one somewhat. It's better described by "why would god let this happen?" which may/may not actually be frightening or even unsettling.
- Example: post #71772 post #34677 post #78443 post #317023
- Exemplar artist: chimera_syx
- what_has_science_done
- Theme: Mutations and bizarre creations (emphasis is on creations).
- Example: post #14513 post #561677 post #394556
- Exemplar artist: mot
- nightmare_fuel
- Theme: Gore, blood, sharp teeth, scary faces. Overlaps with all of these tags when they are frightening.
- Example: post # post #263721 post #505390 post #183840 post #204588
- Exemplar artist: chimera_syx
- what
- Theme: "what the fuck", stupidity, "it does not follow", "wut", "I'm not sure what I'm even looking at", utterly confusing. Also sometimes used distastefully to make fun of certain pieces of art. Somewhat of a dumping tag at the moment, partially because there are dozens of aliases to it.
- Example: post #194247 post #184948 post #402122 post #218467
- why
- Theme: Somewhere between what and "lol so randumb". Also used somewhat to make fun of various fandoms (i.e., taking_it_too_far).
- Example: post #507262 post #504487 post #14633 post #28495 post #570114 post #480701 post #266062
Examples of all of them at once! post #381264 post #37194
Updated by anonymous
There's also what_has_magic_done.
Would be great if those could be pruned down a bit. Where_is_your_god_now in particular seems to overlap a lot, and I'm not sure if there's anything unique about it that's not fully covered by tags such as nightmare_fuel or what.
As for the what and why tag: the main difference seems to be that what is for "what the fuck is this?" and why is for "why does this exist?". So those are pretty easy to tag.
Updated by anonymous
As far as I can tell, the only unique posts in where_is_your_god_now actually have to do with religion in some way. where_is_your_god_now -why -what -what_has_science_done -nightmare_fuel pulls up basically those and a handful of other posts that probably belong better with another tag, or nothing. It's even more notable that where_is_your_god_now what pulls up 230 posts and where_is_your_god_now nightmare_fuel what pulls up 100 posts (out of 335).
Updated by anonymous
Alright, sorry it took so long but working out the nuances was a bit trickier than I thought. I've rewritten the wikis for where_is_your_god_now and what_has_science_done, as well as writing up a small one for why since it didn't have one. It should all be a lot clearer now what should be used for what.
How does it look?
what_has_science_done
post #350038 post #357141 post #121860
A tag focused on extremely bizarre mutants and creations (emphasis is on creations). The character design is implied to be highly impractical or otherwise unlikely to exist outside of a genetic mutation caused by science itself.
Note that despite the connotations, most hyper should not fall under this tag.
- Frequently used with what.
where_is_your_god_now
post #34677 post #78443 post #516881
As in "Why would god let this happen?"; Often used for things that are highly undesirable, unsettling, and possibly including at least some cruel supernatural influence.
Note that despite the name posts with this tag are not usually associated with religion.
why
post #504487 post #28495 post #570114
Similar to what, but with a focus on "why does this even exist". These are often at least mildly unsettling.
- Frequently used with what.
See also:
- nightmare_fuel - Extremely frightening or otherwise unsettling (likely to cause nightmares).
- what - What is this I don't even.
- what_has_science_done - Mutations and bizarre creations.
- where_is_your_god_now - Why would god let this happen?
- why - Why does this even exist?
Updated by anonymous
all those tags are for the same thing
none should be aliased/deleted/removed
because they're fun tags
remember fun?
Updated by anonymous
null0010 said:
remember fun?
What sorcery is that?
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null0010 said:
all those tags are for the same thingnone should be aliased/deleted/removed
because they're fun tags
remember fun?
I had fun once and it was awful.
Updated by anonymous
both should be aliased to WTF?!
Updated by anonymous