Implicating mother → female
Link to implication

Reason:

See https://e621.net/forum/show/167299

Can't a herm also be a mother?

Maybe, but the wiki says "A female character and at least one of her offspring."

Seconding Peekaboo on this. Could apply to dickgirls as well-- depending on what's visible.

Sounds like the wiki needs to be adjusted. Maybe "female" is an umbrella term for "of feminine persuasion" in that context. Should probably specify female/herm/dickgirl otherwise it may cause cuntboys and girly males to be indexed as mothers. (Soft maybe to mother for the former, father for the latter.)

I wonder...

In Norse mythology, Loki, in the form of a Mare, became pregnant by a stallion, and had Sleipnir, the eight legged horse. He was, in a sense, Sleipnir's mother. But he is also male. If a picture containing Sleipnir and male Loki made this information clear, would the post be tagged as "mother"? Would we consider Loki the mother, despite being male? Would that break this tag implication?

Clawdragons said:
I wonder...

In Norse mythology, Loki, in the form of a Mare, became pregnant by a stallion, and had Sleipnir, the eight legged horse. He was, in a sense, Sleipnir's mother. But he is also male. If a picture containing Sleipnir and male Loki made this information clear, would the post be tagged as "mother"? Would we consider Loki the mother, despite being male? Would that break this tag implication?

o_O wtf did i just read? i'm not sure i needed to know about that piece of mythology. :/

Yep, that's a good point.

Here's one post that might potentially break the implication:
post #552793

treos said:
o_O wtf did i just read? i'm not sure i needed to know about that piece of mythology. :/

Norse Mythology is really cool in my opinion. I'm surprised you don't find that tale at all interesting.

-1. Mother is handled kind of loosely gender-wise and is somewhat influenced by canon information (technically speaking it probably shouldn't based on TWYS, but it would almost never be valid if we were stricter about tagging it[/spoiiler]). post #559089 post #209786For instance, the left breaks the implication (based on how the tag tends to get used), and the right would break the implication if one of the sons were around. There also aren't any intersex equivelent tags for mother/father, son/daughter, etc. that would serve as adequate replacements (nor any that are common in English), so I don't think spliting them by gender would work well in practice.

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What about male pregnancy.

Peekaboo said:
Can't a herm also be a mother?

Or father. Or both. Best solution would be to implicate it and file Loki and herms under parent.

alirezatm said:
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What about male pregnancy.

Beanjam said:
Or father. Or both. Best solution would be to implicate it and file Loki and herms under parent.

Beanjam said:
Best solution would be to implicate it and file Loki and herms under parent.

Beanjam said:
Or father. Or both. Best solution would be to implicate it and file Loki and herms under parent.

I suppose that would be more intersex friendly, I never considered that.

Hmm. Not that I'm suggesting this per se, but I'd be interested to hear what everyone thinks about possibly depreciating the mother, father, brother, daughter, etc. tags in favor of using just the more generic parent, child, and sibling tags.

It may be a bit too constraining at this point, but it might be worth considering as these tags tend to be fairly undertagged and this would make them easier to manage implication-wise, as well as make them more gender neutral.