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To add
- formatting and full titles for invalidations
https://e621.net/forum/show/147492
Misc comments
5 downvoting in relation to other similar themed posts
- https://e621.net/comment/show/3045089
4 degree of difficulty tagging in relation to site/tag policy
- https://e621.net/forum/show/129208
-- counterpoint https://e621.net/forum/show/129209
3 on the infallibility of blacklists
- https://e621.net/comment/show/834199
2 https://e621.net/forum/show/212438
1 artist proficiency guidelines
- https://e621.net/forum/show/211869
index of forum discussions
Admins/Mods / particularly-precocious site members!:
If you want to copy the contents of this section to an official wiki article /tag group,
feel free to copy this section to another part of the site without asking me
Might be ordered by date/content
Aliases
see also #tagdisamb
forum #197909 - Tag Alias: awd -> african_wild_dog (Jun. 2016)
forum #189533 - Tag Alias: intimate -> invalid_tag (Apr. 2016)
forum #189069 - Tag Alias: curvaceous → voluptuous (Apr. 2016)
forum #188993 - Tag Alias: breast_pillow -> boob_pillow (Apr. 2016)
forum #187937 - Tag Implication: romantic_couple -> romantic (Mar. 2016)
forum #183087 - Tag Alias: clothed_female_nude_male -> cfnm (Feb. 2016)
forum #142219 - Tag Alias: masturbation_sleeve → cocksleeve (Nov. 2014)
cocksleeve -> invalid_tag
forum #141490 - Tag Alias: adult -> invalid_tag (Oct. 2014)
forum #140749 - Physical Gender Tag aliases/discussion (Oct. 2014)
forum #32542 Tag Alias: pawjob -> footjob (Apr. 2012)
forum #17012 - Huge_breasts > Hyper_breasts (or vice versa) (Jun. 2011)
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Alternate forms
see also #tagpolicy
forum #200657 - Tag Implication: link_(wolf_form) → link (Jul. 2016)
forum #151949 - Tag Implication: link_(wolf_form) → link (Feb. 2015)
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Ambiguous tags
forum #190453 - Puzzled why "envy" is a character? (Apr. 2016)
forum #188816 - Something needs to be DONE about tail_wrap (Mar. 2016)
forum #185266 - Ambiguous tags Discussion/listing (Feb. 2016)
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Anatomy
See also #bodytype ; #tagpolicy ; #taxonomy
forum #214748 - Clarification, Diphallism and Hemipenes (nov 2016)
forum #214081 - Is there a tag for urethral_process? (nov 2016)
https://e621.net/forum/show/210714
forum #208162 - cloaca (Sep. 2016)
forum #206274 - Should humans get anatomically correct if they have a humanoid penis? (Aug. 2016)
forum #204937 - Tag Implication: peacock_feather -> tail_feathers (Aug. 2016)
forum #195694 - About all these "tail" tags (Jun. 2016)
forum #187583 - Regarding the "Multi_nipple" tag - (Mar. 2016)
forum #180728 - New animal_penis and animal_pussy tags, thoughts on deprecating anatomically_correct_* tags, and a tagging project (Jan. 2016)
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forum #159304 - Sharks, fins, earsharks and what to TAG them with (May 2015)
forum #148140 - Tag alias: ungulate -> hooves (Jan. 2015)
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forum #131327 - De-alias suggestion: unguligrade --/--> hooves (Jun. 2014)
forum #111881 - Question about tagging eyes. (Mar. 2014)
forum #145901 - Ungulates and bovines (Dec. 2014)
forum #64185 - Tag Alias - "human_feet" (Mar. 2013)
forum #5300 - Usage: wide_hips tag (Jun. 2010)
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Art [meta]
may be split into site/non-site later
see also #social
https://e621.net/forum/show/211662
https://e621.net/forum/show/208536
https://e621.net/forum/show/166829
forum #167275 - help on how to draw porn?
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Body size
forum #190595 - Tag Implication: musclegut -> belly (Apr. 2016)
forum #189422 - Tagging Slim vs. Skinny (Apr. 2016)
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Body type
See also #anatomy
https://e621.net/forum/show/211721
animal_humanoid versus anthro
https://e621.net/forum/show/207650
forum #194231 - Types of anthroness. Let's make a working system! (May 2016)
forum #191425 - Not_Furry not used enough, Feral is over-broad and Anthro is vague (Apr. 2016)
forum #191207 - Levels of anthroness in tagging ? (Apr. 2016)
forum #189453 - Tag Implication: humanized → alternate_species (Apr. 2016)
forum #188594 - Bit of Help with Taurs Appreciated (Mar. 2016)
forum #189471 - Advanced tag discussion: Mutually-exclusive Body Styles (Apr. 2016)
forum #148136 - animal_ears, human, and humanoid (Jan. 2015)
forum #145008 - Calling all robot, android, mecha, etc. experts! (wiki project) (Dec. 2014)
forum #141131 - Cyborgs, Androids, and Robots. Oh my! (Oct. 2014)
forum #72311 - What's with anthro tag? (Jun. 2013)
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Breasts
forum #188993 - Tag Alias: breast_pillow -> boob_pillow (Apr. 2016)
forum #187716 - Mammary tags discussion:[..] (Mar. 2016)
forum #20968 - Tagging of Breast Sizes - a new Forum (Jul. 2011)
forum #17012 - Huge_breasts > Hyper_breasts (or vice versa) (Jun. 2011)
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Flora
forum #189603 - Vore & Venus Fly Traps or Pitcher Plants (Apr. 2016)
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Sex/Gender
see also #social; #tagging_policy
https://e621.net/forum/show/211402
forum #208162 - cloaca (Sep. 2016)
https://e621.net/forum/show/207982
forum #195804 - Slur Tags (Jun. 2016)
forum #194788 - Gender difference designs and tagging genders (Meowstic) (May 2016)
forum #191308 - Gender tagging vent (Apr. 2016)
forum #186509 - Female hyenas and TWYS (Mar. 2016)
forum #131601 - Don't lynch me: idea for small exception to gender tagging based on source (Jun. 2014)
forum #128973 - tagging gender through TWYS - primary and secondary sexual traits (May 2014)
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forum #169276 - Cloaca vs. Genital slit vs. "It's a girl now" PSA (Aug. 2015)
An open discussion on tagging gender with charrs
https://e621.net/forum/show/166220
forum #176950 - Vagina > Pussy (Nov. 2015)
forum #140749 - Physical Gender Tag aliases/discussion (Oct. 2014)
forum #1104 - New 'male' and 'female' wiki articles, existing gender articles (Sep. 2009)
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Genitalia
forum #202365 - Genitalia colo(u)r discussion: Light/dark contrasts (Jul. 2016)
forum #198896 - Tag Suggestion: Furless/Hairless/Featherless Genitalia Tag (Jun. 2016)
forum #184077 - Tag Alias: Custom_Penis -> Unusual_Penis (Feb. 2016)
forum #184027 - custom_penis tag (Feb. 2016)
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Implications
forum #200657 - Tag Implication: link_(wolf_form) → link (Jul. 2016)
forum #151949 - Tag Implication: link_(wolf_form) → link (Feb. 2015)
forum #190595 - Tag Implication: musclegut -> belly (Apr. 2016)
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Invalidations
forum #200254 - Tag Implication: long_claws → claws (Jul. 2016)
forum #192207 - xenophilia
forum #189533 - Tag Alias: intimate -> invalid_tag (Apr. 2016)
forum #188054 - How useful is the sharp_claws tag? (Mar. 2016)
forum #170074 - shoulder/s, knee/s
forum #168190 - consensual
forum #151864 - viacom
forum #151789 - hear
forum #151087 - things
forum #151043 - people, no_humans
forum #150538 - look/ing
forum #149044 - high
forum #146824 - eye
forum #146791 - slut, nymphomaniac
forum #146214 - little
forum #146172 - my
forum #146172 - little
forum #144264 - furr
forum #151864 - viacom
forum #142219 - Tag Alias: masturbation_sleeve → cocksleeve (Nov. 2014)
cocksleeve -> invalid_tag
forum #141490 #2,3: - Tag Alias: adult -> invalid_tag (Oct. 2014)
forum #97621 - mouth
forum #66851 - fan_art
forum #21433 - rule_34, rule34
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Romance
forum #189533 - Tag Alias: intimate -> invalid_tag (Apr. 2016)
forum #187937 - Tag Implication: romantic_couple -> romantic (Mar. 2016)
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Shortcuts, tag
forum #197909 - Tag Alias: awd -> african_wild_dog (Jun. 2016)
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Site, policy
forum #221082 - The "excessive webcomic rips" rule (jan 2017)
forum #206009 - A question on "Minimum Quality Standards"
forum #154777 - Tag Search Limits? Why? (Mar 2015)
forum #145591 - Can anyone explain what the heck is the quality standard?
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Social
see also #gender
forum #217527 - Artists, which tools/programs do you like to use?
https://e621.net/forum/show/214989
https://e621.net/forum/show/213374
https://e621.net/forum/show/212899
https://e621.net/forum/show/211721
https://e621.net/forum/show/211619
forum #205338 - A Question of Preference for the Ladies (Aug. 2016)
forum #204138 - How do I get a positive record? (Aug. 2016)
forum #196609 - Circumcision
forum #185562 - Downvoting Comments are for Bullies and A-Holes (Mar. 2016) [Tranquil Bunny]
forum #156579 - so is it bothering anyone else that uploaders go "delete! delete! delete!" at the smallest things?
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Species
see #taxonomy
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Standardization, terminology
forum #204705 - Tag Implication: huge_penis -> big_penis (Aug. 2016)
forum #189069 - Tag Alias: curvaceous → voluptuous (Apr. 2016)
forum #188993 - Tag Alias: breast_pillow -> boob_pillow (Apr. 2016)
forum #176950 - Vagina > Pussy (Nov. 2015)
forum #140749 - Physical Gender Tag aliases/discussion (Oct. 2014)
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Tagging, disambiguations
forum #213082 - Dealias Discussion: disambiguating 'pair' (Nov 2016)
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Tagging, methods
forum #220644 - Mass/Bulk Tagging (jan 2017)
forum #196457 - How do you tag? What's your technique? (Jun. 2016)
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Tagging, misc [pending categories]
forum #218908 - Missing Piece of art, taken down or lost in the poor taggings? (Jan. 2017)
forum #218714 - Same species tags? (Jan. 2017)
forum #216820 - Root Tag Suggestion: Binary_gender/sex (dec 2016)
forum #184578 - Resolution guide and checklist (Feb. 2016)
forum #156628 - Tribadism, Frottage, Tail_Sex and Penetration tag issues (apr 2015)
Specifying two_handed_masturbation
https://e621.net/forum/show/207775
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Tagging, Policy
see also #altform, #anatomy, #gender, #twys
forum #218714 - Same species tags? (Jan. 2017)
forum #217094 - [Discussion] Why are nuked tag aliases considered "irrelevant"? (dec 2016)
forum #216888 - Tagging Pokémon (dec 2016)
forum #214655 - Quick question regarding mass nukings.... (Nov 2016)
forum #213642 - Tag idea: furry male/ human female and human male/ furry female (nov 2016
forum #212039 - Tagging designs that resemble animals (Nov. 2016)
forum #210692 - Sex tag(s) discussion: Common implication listing (* -> sex) etc. (Oct. 2016)
forum #209587 - What tags are actually TWYK? (Tag What You See vs. Tag What You Know) (Oct. 2016)
forum #209445 - Should "Incest" be Tag What You Know? (Oct. 2016)
forum #207069 - The tagging of Animal_Humanoid (Sep. 2016)
forum #206789 - What's considered 'Sex?' (Sep. 2016)
forum #206274 - Should humans get anatomically correct if they have a humanoid penis? (Aug. 2016)
forum #202805 - (Pokemon) Alolan Formes (Aug. 2016)
forum #200286 - Tagging question revisited: character count? (Jul. 2016)
forum #193528 - Unofficial PSA: invalid_tag vs. *_(disambiguation) (May. 2016)
forum #193471 - Pokemon tagged as real species? (cat, fox, etc) (may 2016)
forum #193208 - Preferred Character Tag Format (may 2016)
forum #187706 - Advanced Policy Discussions: Implicative/Conjunctive/Redundant/Mutually-exclusive tag usage (Mar. 2016)
forum #186509 - Female hyenas and TWYS (Mar. 2016)
#2: forum #183087 - Tag Alias: clothed_female_nude_male -> cfnm (Feb. 2016)
#2: forum #182665 - Tag suggestion 2 of 2 (maybe 3): The big suggestion - Implied Species+gender tags (Feb. 2016)
#3: Redundant tagging - forum #181559 - white sclera addition? (Jan. 2016)
forum #131601 - Don't lynch me: idea for small exception to gender tagging based on source (Jun. 2014)
forum #128973 - tagging gender through TWYS - primary and secondary sexual traits (May 2014)
forum #124387 - Tagging question: character count? (Apr. 2014)
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Tagging, projects
foo
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Tagging, system
[Feature/Denied] TWYK tag category
https://e621.net/forum/show/210151
forum #205766 - Lore Tags Suggestion (Aug. 2016)
[add rest]
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Taxonomy
forum #218714 - Same species tags? (Jan. 2017)
forum #213647 - Tag: Kitsune (Nov. 2016)
forum #208106 - Should Cougar be Puma instead? (Sep. 2016)
forum #206040 - Hyena Species (Aug. 2016)
forum #204948 - Avian Megathread (Aug. 2016)
forum #199880 - Plant discussion: Tags & Wiki (Jul. 2016)
forum #199251 - Antelope/Gazelle/Deer tagging confusion (Jul. 2016)
forum #45268 - Species Tags! (Aug. 2012)
forum #28538 - Giraffes are not Equines. (Jan. 2012)
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Translation etc. [better name pending]
forum #208182 - Question on Japanese artist names (sep 2016)
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TWYS
see also #gender, #tagpolicy
forum #209587 - What tags are actually TWYK? (Tag What You See vs. Tag What You Know) (Oct. 2016)
forum #186509 - Female hyenas and TWYS (Mar. 2016)
forum #182407 - Twys - genders (Feb. 2016)
forum #179310 - TWYS is sometimes absurdly flawed. (Dec. 2015)
forum #181648 - "Tag only what you see"? Literal interpretation? (Jan. 2015)
forum #69548 - Let's compile a list of presently existing violations of TWYS (May 2013)
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Uploading, misc.
forum #169987 - Saving images properly, a public service announcement. (Aug. 2015)
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Uploading, policy
forum #221082 - The "excessive webcomic rips" rule (jan 2017)
forum #215348 - Steven Universe Gems Petition (dec 2016)
forum #206274 - Should humans get anatomically correct if they have a humanoid penis? (Aug. 2016)
forum #206009 - A question on "Minimum Quality Standards"
forum #178784 - Uploading tips, tricks, suggestions and recommendations? (Dec. 2015)
forum #154777 - Tag Search Limits? Why? (Mar 2015)
forum #145591 - Can anyone explain what the heck is the quality standard?
forum #146158- Humans and e621 (Dec. 2014)
forum #137551 - Direct Description copy & paste on Posts (Sep. 2014)
forum #30719 - e621 Upload Policy,Artists & a suggestion (Mar. 2012)
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Vore
forum #189603 - Vore & Venus Fly Traps or Pitcher Plants (Apr. 2016)
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Voting
forum #172198 - Votes for images. Silly, depressing, useless. (Sep. 2015)
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Wiki
forum #191799 - Wiki Discussion: Specific articles: Edits, questions, concerns, etc. (Apr. 2016)
forum #187125 Wiki guidelines? (locked) (Mar. 2016)
forum #159148- Wiki Standards: Editing and Content (May 2015)
forum links [depreciated]
Mine
Conjunctive tagging
forum #184444 - [gender1] [style1] * [gender2] [style2]
forum #184919 - [style1] [species1]_[genitalia1] * [style2] [species2]_[genitalia2]
https://e621.net/wiki/show?title=pseudo-penis
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forum #189471 - Advanced tag discussion: Mutually-exclusive Body Types/Styles (anthro, feral, human, humanoid, taur, 'semi-anthro' etc.) (Apr. 2016)
forum #187706 - Advanced Policy Discussions: Implicative/Conjunctive/Redundant/Mutually-exclusive tag usage (Mar. 2016)
forum #185266 - Ambiguous tags Discussion/listing (Feb. 2016)
forum #187716 - Mammary tags discussion:[..] (Mar. 2016)
forum #140749 - Physical Gender Tag aliases/discussion (Oct. 2014)
forum #193528 - Unofficial PSA: invalid_tag vs. *_(disambiguation) (May 2015)
forum #159148 - Wiki Standards: Editing and Content (May 2015)
Others'
Conjunctive tagging
- forum #182665 - Tag suggestion 2 of 2 (maybe 3): The big suggestion - Implied Species+gender tags [feb 2016] [The Masked Newfag]
: gendered species tags
- Add to conjunctive tag list
- related to paired gender/species tagging
- add to paired species/gender post: forum #184444
- [Feature/Approved] Blacklist wildcards
Archived forum tagging projects (by me)
[wip]
Thrown in here to for ease of reference/tracking. Newest first
- 25. We don't seem to have a gothic tag, for posts like post #864871
- 24. Is the mew in post #799175 feral?
- 23. We have a penis_everywhere tag, do we have one for scenes where there are multiple penises present, but not 'everywhere'?
- r 22. should characters in a style like post #722358 be tagged with lipstick, or some equivalent?
- r 21. Should screencap be an artist tag?
- r 20. What's a monstrous_humanoid?
Misc. Quotes
[wip]
quotes/comments
15 Tags with low count usage
- https://e621.net/forum/show/170417
14. integrity of site policies in relation to socio-moral/ethical influence upon said policies ('external'/internal) from an indirect and direct community pov
14
- https://e621.net/forum/show/196027
- https://e621.net/forum/show/196098
-- https://e621.net/forum/show/196153
--- https://e621.net/forum/show/196183
- https://e621.net/forum/show/198971
[..]
- https://e621.net/forum/show/212203
- https://e621.net/forum/show/212211 [missing links/sources]
- https://e621.net/forum/show/212228
-- https://e621.net/forum/show/212248
13. https://e621.net/comment/show/2579110 - artist prefs
12. https://e621.net/comment/show/76113 - 'childhood ruined'
1. Is e621 a porn site?
Kaeetayel said:
Like I said, ambig is a last resort. e6 is a porn site, after all, and very few people go around searching for ambiguous gendered characters.
Ratte said:
No it isn't. If e6 were a porn site there would be no point in safe-rated image hosting.
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2. Tags, ??
Niceee said:
what I don't understand is why the fuss over it
it's just a label on something you enjoy (if you do) so I mean, what's the big deal?
imagoober said:
Blacklists or watchlists are much more difficult if the thing you're (un)interested in isn't tagged when appropriate.
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3. Gender tagging - secondary sex characteristics and primary sex characteristics
Very related: forum #182543 (forum #182407)
I've been wondering if there's merit in creating a single tag for grouped humanoid secondary sex characteristics ('feminine'/'masculine' traits) that's separate from physical sex tags
e.g:
i.e:
These tags already technically do exist, but not as single, unified tag
Also related is girly and tomboy
But, and this is a very big 'butt', as others mentioned both in here and the forum I linked, what counts as masculine and feminine are based on cultural norms, not really anything biological, or consistent
one example is female charr:
you can label their body type as 'masculine', but that doesn't really mean anything outside of an established cultural context (not to mention it's rather sexist when you look at female body builders- muscular is not objectively synonymous with masculine)
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It's a very ambiguous subject that's currently also a very touchy one [citation needed], so until some kind of consistent understanding is reached on the site about what exactly counts as 'feminine' or 'masculine', and that's translated to actual site rules/guidelines, then that ambiguity/inconsistency isn't likely going to go away
3a. Gender tagging: foo
- https://e621.net/forum/show/197096
- https://e621.net/forum/show/196024
- https://e621.net/forum/show/196015
- https://e621.net/forum/show/196581
- https://e621.net/forum/show/196649
- https://e621.net/forum/show/196700
- https://e621.net/forum/show/196712
4. Invalidations
5. Animal Rights
- https://e621.net/comment/show/2364550
- Comment thread in general
6. Tag disambiguation/qualifier standardization
7. Suggestions
- https://e621.net/forum/show/197911
- >Before making a new feature that takes years, I think admins just need to simply write information about "how to make multiple suggestions" in the suggestion page to avoid someone creates separate thread for each suggestion every now and then.
8. Common tag alias shortcuts [see also system aliases;proposed 'gender' tags]
9. Art/Artists
- https://e621.net/forum/show/198347
- >Whether you want people (aside from yourself) to enjoy your art is a question that each individual artist must answer. For most artists, it's rewarding and motivating when people enjoy their work. But for many artists, people enjoying their work is definitely not *the point*. It may be to understand X better, practice a technique, achieve a better result than last time, simply communicate your thoughts on a subject, or for a professional, simply get the job done well enough and move on.
- People also typically have standards for -how- their work should be enjoyed. Acknowledging the artist as a person and writing a comment expressing your appreciation of the specific merits of their work, is immeasurably better than simply getting lost in the wank inside your own head. The latter tells them very little about the quality of the artwork, and a lot about you.
10. Implicative tagging
Forum Drafts
drafts
e621 Colo(u)r Standardization
[v0.34 +/- 0.25]Colour standardization
Ok, here's an idea:
What if we had a fixed number of standard site colors, and used them accordingly for tags with high color counts?
eg fur, hair, eyes, theme, background etc.
According to this page, there are some basic colors found in English speaking communities:
'Common' set
- black
- gray/grey
- white
- blue (blue/indigo)
- brown
- green
- orange
- pink (violet)
- purple (indigo/violet)
- red
- yellow
Personally, I'd prefer the rainbow colors from Physics:
Rainbow set
black
gray/grey
white
red
orange
yellow
green
blue
indigo
violet
Since this a bit more international and fits well with the rainbow_* color tags too
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But most english speaking communities [citation needed] seem to be familiar with the first group
There's also the issue of everything below blue:
people tend to blend blue, indigo, and violet together mentally. Which results in purples, pinks etc.
There's also no cyan; which falls between green and blue
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Another option is to have all of those, but merge them together in the following way
- Broad color
- Specific color
E.g.
- violet
- pink
- purple
or
- pink
- violet
- purple
- violet
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Considerations:
Should we include cyan?
Multiple similar colors on a single post?
- purple, violet, pink, etc
Multiple categories?
- blue
- cyan
- green
- cyan
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