First of all, I am so very very sorry for starting this topic on which you might not want to read in the first place...but- *gulp* here goes....

Recently you downloaded and/or looked at some really illegial vids or pic by using a P2P client. One day you went to work/school/whatever you do and suddenly you noticed that all the computers/electronical devices are gone.

In a bit, some investigators come to your house and ask if you did download any --you confess-- BUT you tell them that in no way, shape, or form, would you ever do anything that you viewed. You are a truely good person at heart and this is the only serious matter you have ever done.

They tell you that the police department will give you back all your items that they confiscated in "Months"

What should you do now knowing that there were other electrical devices that not only belonged to you but belonged to your parents or roommates? Should you simply wait out the God-knows-how-many-months?
Why should other people suffer for your god-awful mistake as well??
Hire a lawyer?

I am fully aware that the police force is full of liers and they do not in any way give two flyings craps about civilians.

FML
again, I am dreadfully sorry and would like to sincerely apologise to everyone who read this topic.
I told my love what i have done and after a stream of crying from the both of us, he told one of his close friends what I have done. Suffice to say, she was very compassionate and understanding in that I was very curious. It brings a tear to my eye that he has very understanding friends. They don't hate me at all for what I have done.

Kurama: "Regret is the domain of those who have earned the right to look back on the past. All I have is shame."

That sounds somewhat serious

titaniachkt said:
That sounds somewhat serious

Yes, I am indeed up shit creek without a paddle.

What the hell were you looking at? Jesus.

Mario583 said:
Recently you downloaded and/or looked at some really illegial vids or pic by using a P2P client.

You should really be talking to a lawyer. Find a reliable one and tell him/her everything. They'll help you work out a plea bargain.

Mario583 said:
In a bit, some investigators come to your house and ask if you did download any --you confess-- BUT you tell them that in no way, shape, or form, would you ever do anything that you viewed.

If they confiscated the computer then they'll be able to tell if you accessed the files. I hope you were telling them the truth.

Mario583 said:
You are a truely good person at heart and this is the only serious matter you have ever done.

If it's just piracy, the judge might go easy on you. If it's restricted government files or child porn then you're going to have a bad time.

Mario583 said:
What should you do now knowing that there were other electrical devices that not only belonged to you but belonged to your parents or roommates? Should you simply wait out the God-knows-how-many-months?
Why should other people suffer for your god-awful mistake as well??

The Justice Department isn't always fair; it's simply too large to be able to function on an individual basis. Your friends and family are just going to have to wait, and hope that the police don't decide to keep them. Most states don't require police stations to return seized items if they were actually involved in a crime, and virtually all of them get a large chunk of their funds by selling off the seized goods that aren't actually evidence for the case in question.

Mario583 said:
I am fully aware that the police force is full of liers and they do not in any way give two flyings craps about civilians.

Am I the only person online who has any respect for the police? Yes, there are bad apples, but most of them are just people trying to do a potentially dangerous and often stressful job while putting up with pay cuts, bureaucracy, and hostility from the many people they're supposed to serve. Try to look at it from their point of view.

whenever someone post something like this, it's probably fake

Wow, im not quite sure what you did however it sounds severe and I think you need to seek legal council asap. Call a few lawyers, find a good one that will benefit you in your case and it doesnt hurt to do a little research on what your facing online, laws and statutes so your educated on the ins and outs of what could happen and what you can do to work it out.. I wish you the best.

There's one of two things possible here.

1.) It's a fake, trying to get attention.
2.) It's real.

If 1, then GTFO and don't come back. If 2, go talk to a lawyer instead of posting on a furry forum. Common sense.

Shatari said:
If it's just piracy, the judge might go easy on you. If it's restricted government files or child porn then you're going to have a bad time.

It's probably CP or bestiality in a state where it's illegal, judging by his post. This is all assuming this is real and not drama.

Mechaniatrix said:
If [it's real], go talk to a lawyer instead of posting on a furry forum.

Full agreement. It sounds like you need qualified legal assistance and representation.

Unfortunately, the police will probably only return the confiscated items after they have completed their investigation. However, a capable attorney might be able to light a fire that gets them moving a little more quickly. Might. I am not a lawyer, nor a lawyer's assistant, and most importantly I am not your lawyer.

To reiterate, I think the wisest course of action is to find a lawyer to represent you.

Guys, people, everyone, absolutely please watch this.

Wait for your lawyer, or at the very worst, save it for the judge. You hear it time and time again, but really they mean it, no matter what really happened, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. Anything you say cannot be used in your favor, it's literally against the law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

Again: DON'T TALK TO POLICE. Don't tell the truth, don't even tell the truth, especially don't lie, don't say you didn't do it, don't try and say it's not wrong, don't say your a good person, don't say you don't know, DO NOT SAY ANYTHING. Save it for your lawyer.

Thank you.

If you really are without a paddle,asking a lawyer to lend you one does seem like the best course of action.

At the very least,it shows you are aware of your rights to be represented in court,which makes it a bit harder for them to treat you unfairly

P.S. Good luck!

So... you got caught with cp.. good job.

Owning bestiality vids probably wouldn't get you more than a year in jail or some probation with fines, but if it's child porn then you're fucked.

btw good job basically admitting guilt here on a public forum

Not buying it.

ippiki_ookami said:
Not buying it.

And this.

I seriously hope you're joking. If you're not, have fun going to court. If you end up in prison, oh well. I am on the Internet every day, and I have never had the temptation to do illegal things. I sincerely wish you the best of luck. I'm not being mean or anything. I'm just telling it like it is.

Forgive me, I may not be up to date on my knowledge of justice and laws, but wouldn't they [the police] need a warrant to do a search and seizure of your apartment/house?

hg3300 said:
Forgive me, I may not be up to date on my knowledge of justice and laws, but wouldn't they [the police] need a warrant to do a search and seizure of your apartment/house?

Now that I think of it, that's another hole in his story.

hg3300 said:
Forgive me, I may not be up to date on my knowledge of justice and laws, but wouldn't they [the police] need a warrant to do a search and seizure of your apartment/house?

Yes, they would, to my knowledge.

Also, called it.

The Justice Department isn't always fair; it's simply too large to be able to function on an individual basis. Your friends and family are just going to have to wait, and hope that the police don't decide to keep them. Most states don't require police stations to return seized items if they were actually involved in a crime, and virtually all of them get a large chunk of their funds by selling off the seized goods that aren't actually evidence for the case in question.

Am I the only person online who has any respect for the police? Yes, there are bad apples, but most of them are just people trying to do a potentially dangerous and often stressful job while putting up with pay cuts, bureaucracy, and hostility from the many people they're supposed to serve. Try to look at it from their point of view.
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You aren't the only one, the police are more misunderstood in my opinion, especially in this time in history with occupy.

I have respect for them. I respect the fact that they are human beings placed in positions of power in continuously high stress and dangerous environments and that does all kinds of kooky things to one's psychology. I think most of them are average joes trying to do their job. It's the job of the police to make sure citizens do not infringe upon the rights of other citizens.

It's the job of the citizen to make sure the police aren't infringing upon their own rights.

hg3300 said:
Forgive me, I may not be up to date on my knowledge of justice and laws, but wouldn't they [the police] need a warrant to do a search and seizure of your apartment/house?

I do believe a warrant is usually required unless they have probable cause to do so without, for example... Guy is driving a few friends around, a friend pulls out a bowl and they start smoking weed. The driver maybe misses a stop sign or speed limit change and cop pulls him over and upon approaching the car smells weed. Well guess what, everyone and the car is getting searched... No warrant.

Another example, guy is an anarchist, writes blogs about destroying the system all the time and goes a little overbored and mentions blowing up the white house or something. You bet your ass every government agency would be there going through everything and no warrant would be needed.

Ive had plenty of run ins with the law for being a not so good girl and it seems when there is a good posibility that if the cops have a pending case requiring evidence and that evidence would likely vanish in the time requiring a search warrant then they dont need one. They have little loop holes like that everywhere, its really quite rediculous.

Ivory_Wolf said:
Ive had plenty of run ins with the law for being a not so good girl

Now you've made me curious.

Munkelzahn said:
Now you've made me curious.

Theft, assault, carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, criminal mischief, had 5 warrants for skipping court dates, got arrested on those and did a couple months in jail. Oh and I had a few motor vehicle infractions... Im 20. Most of this was due to the people I hung out with then but what I did get in trouble for could have been far worse, there was far more I got away with... In any case ive changed my ways, moved far away from all that and started over on the right track.

Ivory_Wolf said:
Theft, assault, carrying a concealed weapon without a permit, criminal mischief, had 5 warrants for skipping court dates, got arrested on those and did a couple months in jail. Oh and I had a few motor vehicle infractions... Im 20. Most of this was due to the people I hung out with then but what I did get in trouble for could have been far worse, there was far more I got away with... In any case ive changed my ways, moved far away from all that and started over on the right track.

Your story reeks of something, and it ain't daisy's.

Princess_Celestia said:
Your story reeks of something, and it ain't daisy's.

it ain't daisy's what?

if you have no access to electronic devises, how are you making forum posts? also- if you do something illegal using the internet -generally- you go to jail until court where they then decide what to do with you, how are you not there? I call fake.

Princess_Celestia said:
Your story reeks of something, and it ain't daisy's.

You must have grown up in a good neighborhood and had a perfect life, it would be foolish of me to expect you to believe someone can do such things.

Princess_Celestia said:
Your story reeks of something, and it ain't daisy's.

I believe her, I've gotten in trouble for several of the same infractions (except vehicular misdemeanors, since I don't drive).

Ivory_Wolf said:
You must have grown up in a good neighborhood and had a perfect life, it would be foolish of me to expect you to believe someone can do such things.

Year 220: Vandals from the barbaric south trash border forts. "We was bored and had bad childhoods," explains their leader.

Shatari said:
Am I the only person online who has any respect for the police? Yes, there are bad apples, but most of them are just people trying to do a potentially dangerous and often stressful job while putting up with pay cuts, bureaucracy, and hostility from the many people they're supposed to serve. Try to look at it from their point of view.

I have respect for law, even if I hardly follow it. but when dumb shit like this happens I drop to contempt.

Piracy is not as big an issue as publishers want people to believe.

Thiefenz said:
Piracy is not as big an issue as publishers want people to believe.

Edit: My initial response was poor, made in a moment of poor judgement.

In the vast, overwhelming majority of cases (in the United States, at least), infringement is fought in civil courts, where the burden of proof is less, damages are paid to the defendants, and the media companies can carefully choose a settlement demand that is only slightly less expensive than fighting them in court. Civil courts are more attractive to media companies in every way.

In civil cases, law enforcement does not become involved until a judge gives an order and someone refuses to obey that order. Even then, that usually results in being held in contempt of court, which is jail time, not a search warrant. Even failure to appear for court "only" results in a summary judgement, where the judge decides the case in favor of whoever actually appeared in court.

There are other problems with pursuing criminal infringement cases. Jurisdiction is a nightmare, and the FBI stays pretty busy so it's hard to get their attention for petty cases (those smaller than, say, MegaUpload). Proof beyond a reasonable doubt is difficult to obtain, and it's expensive to execute a search warrant and sort through all of one's computer documents for infringing files. For these reasons and more, it is unusual for law enforcement to be involved in copyright infringement cases.