Busy cleaning up sex solo -tentacles, most of these are because people add oral_sex to autofellatio images which then implies sex. Then there is this case:

post #368675

Can't remove oral_sex here because oral_knotting implies it, which then again adds sex. There are only about 4 instances where this is a problem but it shows that this isn't a good implication.

Autofellatio is oral sex, even says so in the oral_sex wiki.
The problem, is there is one, would be the implication to sex.

Is it? In oral_sex it says "... a character stimulating another character's genitals", that and autofellatio isn't implied to oral sex.

ceti said:
Is it? In oral_sex it says "... a character stimulating another character's genitals", that and autofellatio isn't implied to oral sex.

It also says See also: autofellatio

That doesn't mean it's implied, that just means it's related in some way, just like how heterosexual and homosexual are under the see also header in bisexual.

Yep. Those are related tags; the 'see also'-section is mainly used to list similar tags that users are recommended to check before tagging. To make sure that they're using the correct one.

Masturbation should never be tagged as sex. That implication needs to be fixed. Either by removing it, or by redefining oral_knotting so that it can't be applied to autofellatio.

Genjar said:
Yep. Those are related tags; the 'see also'-section is mainly used to list similar tags that users are recommended to check before tagging. To make sure that they're using the correct one.

Masturbation should never be tagged as sex. That implication needs to be fixed. Either by removing it, or by redefining oral_knotting so that it can't be applied to autofellatio.

Well, it IS self sex.... :P But seriously, I can agree with oral_knotting being unimplyed to oral_sex because of autofellatio.

It also implies knotting, which in turn implies sex. So should we unimply knotting from oral_knotting or sex from knotting?

Both are useful implications, I'm not sure if it'd be worthwhile to unimplicate either for just four images.

Maybe it'd be best to just redefine oral_knotting so that it doesn't apply to masturbation, and tag those four with something like self_knotting (or autoknotting) instead?

I think it would be simpler to change our definition of sex to include masturbation. It's obviously an expression of sexuality.

Wyvrn said:
I think it would be simpler to change our definition of sex to include masturbation. It's obviously an expression of sexuality.

I'm also fine with this. I mean, it IS self sex, no matter how I jokingly stated that.

I'm not keen on that idea. Mostly because we've worked so hard to keep sex and masturbation separate, and actually combining them would mean reworking and redefining dozens of tags.

I think there's enough clean-up work already. By my calculations, I'll be busy for the next five or six years -- and that's discounting the new posts.

I think keeping sex and masturbation separate is best. When someone searches for sex, they're going to want to be looking for people, well, having sex. Not solo characters jerking off or whatever. And for the original problem, I think it's easiest to just let the sex tag get stuck on these few images. It's an extremely minor problem (more of an annoyance than a problem) and the solution would likely be more trouble than just leaving it alone.

tony311 said:
I think keeping sex and masturbation separate is best. When someone searches for sex, they're going to want to be looking for people, well, having sex. Not solo characters jerking off or whatever. And for the original problem, I think it's easiest to just let the sex tag get stuck on these few images. It's an extremely minor problem (more of an annoyance than a problem) and the solution would likely be more trouble than just leaving it alone.

Ditto. I don't want to see solo images when searching for sex or vice versa.

Back on topic, I'd say unimply knotting from sex.

Genjar said:
I'm not keen on that idea. Mostly because we've worked so hard to keep sex and masturbation separate, and actually combining them would mean reworking and redefining dozens of tags.

I think there's enough clean-up work already. By my calculations, I'll be busy for the next five or six years -- and that's discounting the new posts.

Point.