Topic: Tag Alias: Hazel_eyes -> Brown_eyes

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Asphyxia said:
Aliasing Hazel_eyes -> Brown_eyes.

Reason: can you spot the difference on this site? I can't.

I think it just needed cleaning. There weren't very many. And some, like you said, were clearly just brown_eyes. Since that's a clear mistag, I just fixed those as I found them. But there are a few legitimate pictures in there. Sort of an ambiguous muddy-green or green-brown color which would be otherwise hard to categorise. So I think hazel_eyes serves some actual use. It was just damned hard to see it when it had so few images and at least half were accumulated mistags over time. I think it's just been under-used and under-maintained until you brought it up. I didn't even realise we had it. I don't think it needs aliasing to brown_eyes though, since at least some of it isn't actually brown. Maybe invalid_color? Or keep it?

Updated by anonymous

Its probably because my eyes are hazel, but I prefer we keep it.

I can see how tagging pictures with the correct eye color is important, but if its so ambiguious that you can't tell if its brown or slightly greenish brown, I think you're perfectly justified just leaving it as brown, or not tagging eye color at all if the irises are just too small/obscured.

Updated by anonymous

The problem is defining the difference between hazel and brown differs for most people based on their monitor and color settings.

Updated by anonymous

It really just depends on how far we should break down the eye colors.

Red
green
blue
yellow (probably aliased to amber_eyes)
black
white
orange
purple
gray
brown

These are our base colors for the purpose of tagging eyes, but does anyone think we should break it down one more level into say, the colors in between each of these color (example, red + purple = magenta_eyes) or do you think we have broken it down enough?

Updated by anonymous

Originally I would have said to stick with the basic colors, no need for anything more than that. But after tagging enough images, I've run into too many that straddled a color line and made it hard to decide. Unless we want to start tagging both colors when that happens, I think the cleaner solution is to add in some of the between colors:

amber (yellow/orange)
cyan (more blue than green)
teal (more green than blue)
hazel (green/brown)
magenta (pink/purple)
etc.

I think it makes for cleaner searching and tagging. They're already in use actually (at least amber, cyan, teal and hazel are), so it's just a question of leaving them or not.

Sometimes you can sway it one color direction or the other, but other times the color is just smack in the middle between the two basics. And then tagging it as just one of them feels wrong, but tagging it with both feels ridiculous and hamhanded. So if there's a real tag for that "between" color, it just makes more sense to me for it to be used. That's just my two cents. I think when it boils down to "no other tag quite fits" then that's when it needs a tag that soundly does.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

Hazel is recognized as real eye color on Martin-Schultz scale, separate from brown. So I suppose it'd make some sense to keep it.

Updated by anonymous

looking at the images tagged with this, its usage seems to be wildly inconsistent
post #331243
post #418967
post #369261

so there really is no good in keeping it, since people will just continue to misuse it. The question is, should it be replaced with brown or green?

Updated by anonymous

ippiki_ookami said:
looking at the images tagged with this, its usage seems to be wildly inconsistent
post #331243
post #418967
post #369261

so there really is no good in keeping it, since people will just continue to misuse it. The question is, should it be replaced with brown or green?

I would say the color that is most visible should replace it, but that would obviously go on a case by case basis. Some images look more green, others look more brown. Messy.

Updated by anonymous

I remember there being a lot more of them than just nineteen, so looks like it's already been cleaned up. Might as well alias it with brown...since hazel is generally thought to be light brown color.

Anyway, I cleaned up the rest. Most of them were easy enough to sort, though there were a couple where I had to use a color dropper to figure out the base hue.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar said:
...Might as well alias it with brown...since hazel is generally thought to be light brown color.

This.

Updated by anonymous

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