Topic: [REJECTED] Tag alias: tousoni3 -> reitounek

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Clawstripe

Janitor

It's best not to use e621's artist wiki as proof for an artist's name change as the wiki can be edited by any one of us yahoos at any time. But the wiki can be a good jumping-off point for finding the actual proof offsite, hopefully via the artist's own sites.

Yes, I know. That's sometimes pretty hard, especially when one can't read kana or kanji. I can hardly blame OP for not wanting to deep dive too heavily. (And yes, I did see that OP was the one who filled it out, so thank you, buri68. That did help quite a bit. :) )
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First off, there's Furrin Gok's own accepted "stousoni -> reitounek" alias request (long accepted), in which he linked Stousani, Reitounek, and Tousani3 together, though only the first two were aliased. Also, this was seven years ago so his links were out of date and he wasn't nearly so – masochistic – as I ended up being. Gads, I don't blame him one bit. (Also, thanks, Furrin, you did help quite a bit, too.)

As for me, I find that the Pixiv links to the Tousoni3 Pawoo (which has links going back), but the Twitter/X link goes to the now-defunct MeidorAodoragon Twitter/X rather than the Reitounek Twitter/X.

As for said Reitounek Twitter/X (made in 2018), it has at least one post that matches a post on the later – uhhh – sdUcz3SAiHC16rA Twitter/X (made in 2020). In case you're wondering, the Wayback Machine puts the MeidorAodoragon Twitter in 2021, after both of these were apparently abandoned (earliest recorded tweet and latest recorded tweet ).

The Reitounek Twitter/X also links to this YouTube channel, the user avatar of which matches a character and art style frequently seen in the Pixiv, even though no pictures actually match.

However, when I checked on one of the closest matches in the Pixiv, I discovered a link to another Twitter/X account, what appears to be the artist's current SinhekiMinto account. This account not only has more pictures with a character matching the style of the Pixiv, but also links to this YouTube video which turns out to be on this YouTube account ... which turns out to be the same account the Reitounek Twitter/X linked to.

Lastly, several of the pictures on the SinhekoMinto Twitter/X have signatures reading "Tensen" (example ) which Google tells me is what the kanji of the Pixiv account's name, 天仙⛩, translates into.
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Okay, this is how I run it down. For whatever reasons, this artist swapped Twitter/X accounts over time, from Reitounek to sdUcz3SAiHC16rA to MeidorAodoragon to SinhekiMinto. They have a couple of YouTube channels, one of which is linked to by Reitounek and by SinhekiMinto. The Pixiv links to the Tousoni3 Pawoo and, via at least one post, SinhekiMinto. The massively breasted blue feline is seen on SinhekoMinto, the Pixiv, and the one YouTube, at least.

My recommendation? Alias everyone to SinhekiMinto as that's the most recent name. When they decide to rebrand yet again, this will hopefully make it easier to link the names, fingers crossed.

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Clawstripe

Janitor

Recommended BURs that first require OP BUR to be rejected:

unalias stousoni -> reitounek
alias tousoni3 -> sinhekiminto

with the followup:

alias reitounek -> sinhekiminto
alias stousoni -> sinhekiminto

buri68

Member

omaigah XD. I wasn't expecting this.

clawstripe said:
It's best not to use e621's artist wiki as proof for an artist's name change as the wiki can be edited by any one of us yahoos at any time. But the wiki can be a good jumping-off point for finding the actual proof offsite, hopefully via the artist's own sites.

Yea, I used it as reference to all the links that I found. Sorry for the poor OP.

clawstripe said:
However, when I checked on one of the closest matches in the Pixiv, I discovered a link to another Twitter/X account, what appears to be the artist's current SinhekiMinto account.

Good think you discovered that. From there I have continued my research.

clawstripe said:
Lastly, several of the pictures on the SinhekoMinto Twitter/X have signatures reading "Tensen" (example ) which Google tells me is what the kanji of the Pixiv account's name, 天仙⛩, translates into.

He uses it in some other accounts, I think it competes with "sinhekiminto" to be his main alias.

Ok, I'm gonna tell what I found.
These are the aliases he is using:

· SinhekiMinto:
- current X/Twitter URL/@name
- Booth URL (only sinheki)

· Genseigensin
- Skeb URL/@name

· TenSen / 天仙 (usually followed by a torii character or emoji (⛩/⛩️))
- X/Twitter name (kanji)
- Pixiv (kanji)
- Skeb name (kanji)
- Booth name (kanji)
- signing his work (kanji and alphabetical)

I'm dubious on which name to pick for his main alias.

I updated the links at the artist page.
In his skeb is where most of the links are.

all this for an artist who's work I like is his older ones that he deleted 😭

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Clawstripe

Janitor

buri68 said:
Yea, I used it as reference to all the links that I found. Sorry for the poor OP.

Poor? Nah, it's not as poor as it might seem at first glance. Ultimately, you did two very important things: you got the ball rolling and you created and filled out the artist wiki. That latter was especially helpful.

I updated the links at the artist page.
In his skeb is where most of the links are.

Thanks! That's very much appreciated. :D

Good think you discovered that. From there I have continued my research.

Yeah, luck sometimes plays a role in finding these things. Or just a willingness to hit links.

He uses it in some other accounts, I think it competes with "sinhekiminto" to be his main alias.

Ok, I'm gonna tell what I found.
These are the aliases he is using:

· SinhekiMinto:
- current X/Twitter URL/@name
- Booth URL (only sinheki)

· Genseigensin
- Skeb URL/@name

· TenSen / 天仙 (usually followed by a torii character or emoji (⛩/⛩️))
- X/Twitter name (kanji)
- Pixiv (kanji)
- Skeb name (kanji)
- Booth name (kanji)
- signing his work (kanji and alphabetical)

I'm dubious on which name to pick for his main alias.

With this added information, I'm thinking more that we should go with TenSen for the artist tag, since the artist uses it so much and signs their work with it. They're likely going to continue using it. My concern there is whether it's a unique enough name. A search of e621's tags reveal that tensen hasn't been used in any tag in any way that's going to be confused for plain, old TenSen. Unless someone can show otherwise, it looks like we could alias all their names to tensen and get away with it.

all this for an artist who's work I like is his older ones that he deleted 😭

Welcome to the club. :p

buri68

Member

clawstripe said:
My concern there is whether it's a unique enough name

That's the thing, I looked it up and it's a taoist term that means heavenly immortal, like a god we could say.(link)

So some people use it as a suffix or prefix for their names, as we can see on the tag search you linked and on danbooru for example.

But I haven't seen anyone using it alone so...

it looks like we could alias all their names to tensen and get away with it.

tensen fun facts

they are some immortal guys from a manga.(link)

I found some Japanese painter on wikipedia called Tensen Ogyu, but it doesn't seem like a common name for japs

So the final BUR would be:

unalias stousoni -> reitounek

alias reitounek -> tensen
alias stousoni -> tensen
alias tousoni3 -> tensen
alias sinhekiminto -> tensen

and maybe this?

alias 天仙 -> tensen

or keep the kanji at other names? what is usually done with japanese names?

Clawstripe

Janitor

buri68 said:
So the final BUR would be:

unalias stousoni -> reitounek

alias reitounek -> tensen
alias stousoni -> tensen
alias tousoni3 -> tensen
alias sinhekiminto -> tensen

and maybe this?

alias 天仙 -> tensen

or keep the kanji at other names? what is usually done with japanese names?

Typically, we just alias it to the best Western localization we can manage. Usually, that's easy, such as when they provide one themselves, which is how we prefer it. Occasionally, if they don't, we have to come up with a translation that works (fortunately, we can call on some pretty skilled translators). If worst comes to worst, we have to settle for something clunky like pixiv id ########. Obviously, we can't use kanji, kana, or any other character that can only be represented by a Unicode character as our tags don't support Unicode. At least we have several English-accessible names they use, so that makes things easy.

I think your BURs will work, and we can throw in the kanji version, too. Unless someone else wants to chime in. ;p

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