Topic: How loosely should lore tags apply?

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Sometimes a character might refer to themselves as an adult who hasn't grown in yet, such as finley_(tloz); or others who are referred to as an adult by others, like tulin_(tloz), who gets called an adult by Harth and Teba early on in their TotK storyline (despite shortly beforehand being called a hatchling due to his personality).

These are both vague statements, so I can certainly see a focus on the body shape, and many people would blacklist (or search) based on that, but I'm curious if vague-er statements should apply.

Tulin in particular has an obvious age-up between Breath of the Wild where he looked like a child, and Tears of the Kingdom where he looks like a teenager, so even if his canon design and size can get the lore tag, any image using that design but looking like a child (such as post 5907241) should not have the lore tag unless the artist says so.

Lore tags are based on artist intent. Canon information doesn't matter in the context of an isolated post- same is true for gender lore tags [Canonically nonbinary characters being depicted as cis, etc].

I think if the artist doesn't say anything, an in-image statement can be ambiguous enough to not count for the adult_(lore) tag if they don't look it, when it can more likely be inferred as meaning "older" or "acting more like an adult"/"taking on adult responsibilities", rather than being the age of majority. AFAIK, young_(lore) and adult_(lore) still reference the character's age, not social status, just allowing for the artist's intent for the character's age instead of visual attributes.

moonlit-comet said:
Lore tags are based on artist intent. Canon information doesn't matter in the context of an isolated post- same is true for gender lore tags [Canonically nonbinary characters being depicted as cis, etc].

Close; canon does apply for lore tags, but artist intent overrides canon intent.

aacafah said:
Close; canon does apply for lore tags, but artist intent overrides canon intent.

it's more like: we can presume that the artist intends to depict the character as they are in canon by default in most cases.

aacafah said:
Close; canon does apply for lore tags, but artist intent overrides canon intent.

Well, yes. If the artist says something about the character being a kid or teen, then the lore tags can be dropped; the big question is still if vague statements should be taken into account? As far as I remember, Finley is the only one who comments on her actual age in BotW, and nobody mentions it at all in TotK.

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dfn-451 said:
it's more like: we can presume that the artist intends to depict the character as they are in canon by default in most cases.

That's a better way to put it, ty.

furrin_gok said:
Well, yes. If the artist says something about the character being a kid or teen, then the lore tags can be dropped; the big question is still if vague statements should be taken into account? As far as I remember, Finley is the only one who comments on her actual age in BotW, and nobody mentions it at all in TotK.

It's case by case, but we aren't expecting many fictional characters to pull out their driver's licenses & hold them up to the camera; I haven't played Totk, but barring conflicting in-game information, it's reasonable to take it at face value. That being said, I'd say, absent of artist commentary, a borderline/game-accurate depiction would be adult_(lore), but more youthful depictions wouldn't, as we'd take that deviation as the artist indicating their depiction intentionally being younger. Your example obviously wouldn't qualify (again, absent of artist commentary).

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