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So this image is something I wish I had never seen. And, if tagged with TWYS, I never would have.
But according to the comments; It's not shit, even though it looks like shit.
https://e621.net/posts/5894471
So should I add the 'scat' tag? Because it looks like scat?
Lord knows I wish I had never seen it, myself. But 'I can't believe it's not feces' was not a tag I was even aware of. And seems like a tag invented to say 'Looks like shit, but dodges your blacklist. Lol.'
fuzzy_kobold said:
So this image is something I wish I had never seen. And, if tagged with TWYS, I never would have.
But according to the comments; It's not shit, even though it looks like shit.https://e621.net/posts/5894471
So should I add the 'scat' tag? Because it looks like scat?
Lord knows I wish I had never seen it, myself. But 'I can't believe it's not feces' was not a tag I was even aware of. And seems like a tag invented to say 'Looks like shit, but dodges your blacklist. Lol.'
Relax m8, breaking a pretty big rule on e6 with the body of thread, Dood.
Even though this thread is about how the tag 'is' named, Complaining about
how much you don't want to see a tag in this way, is pretty big no go, Dood. =‿=;)
As for the tag it's self, Personally I think it's kinda rad. ╹‿╹)
- Get's the point across.
- Covers a lot of ground in cases scat wouldn't.
- Shows up on the wiki if you search Scat.
(Blacklisting Via Wiki is great for finding niche cases, Dood)
Oh man this is one hell of an edge case. That the image is greyscale is a complicating factor.
So, personally. I think it's okay tagging it as both feces AND solid_cum. There's nothing in the image that distinguishes it one way or the other. It's a lumpy log in an anus. Going in? Coming out? Can't tell. There's no visible ejaculation either.
I know that officially tagging something as two different things is usually not done. HOWEVER I feel like this is a unique situation- it's ambiguous. There's context in the pool, but none in the image alone. It can be read both ways. Scat is also a very contentious fetish which is going to make people frustrated if stuff like this gets past their blacklist.
notkastar said:
Relax m8, breaking a pretty big rule on e6 with the body of thread, Dood.
What? Op is pretty clear they'd love to use their blacklist to filter out that image, they're asking for help specifically on what to put in their blacklist to prevent this from happening in the future.
For Op: I think my advice would probably be to just blacklist the "i_can't_believe_it's_not_feces" tag itself to avoid similar things in the future. Although personally I think that specific image should get the scat tag anyways regardless of what's claimed.
Looks nothing like cum. Looks like feces. All the solid cum tags should be removed.
kyiiel said:
Looks nothing like cum. Looks like feces. All the solid cum tags should be removed.
I concur. Even if it's intended to be solid cum, it looks visually indistinguishable from feces with no visual indication it's hardened cum. TWYS means tagging what it appears to be, and if the image being greyscale makes it look like feces instead of solid cum, then that's how it should be tagged. Just like when shadowing or linework makes something appear as an anus, genital slit, vulva, or sheath, they should be tagged that (with the appropriate rating) even if that's not what the artist intended.
ordinary said:
For Op: I think my advice would probably be to just blacklist the "i_can't_believe_it's_not_feces" tag itself to avoid similar things in the future. Although personally I think that specific image should get the scat tag anyways regardless of what's claimed.
AFAIK, i_can't_believe_it's_not_feces is supposed to be within the category of misleading_thumbnail, where the full image makes it apparent it's not feces while the thumbnail makes it look like it is. If it still looks like feces when viewed in full, that would be a lore/TWYK tag at that point.
Whatever this stuff is we don't see it being ejaculated from a penis but rather excreted from an anus therefore it should be feces
This will have to be tagged with feces and if a colored version ever comes out then that version would have an easier time getting the cum tags like the page before it
I would say tag feces, but leave the solid_cum and i_can't_believe_it's_not_feces tags as is.
Even in the previous post, which shows the solid_cum being ejected from a penis, it is visually indistinguishable from shitting_dick/cumming_feces.
thegreatwolfgang said:
I would say tag feces, but leave the solid_cum and i_can't_believe_it's_not_feces tags as is.Even in the previous post, which shows the solid_cum being ejected from a penis, it is visually indistinguishable from shitting_dick/cumming_feces.
Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. If it's a shitting dick, then it's feces.
Also, white feces is a real thing. I had it before when I was young and ate a bunch of antacid tablets. There are other things that can cause white feces too: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/liver-problems/expert-answers/white-stool/faq-20058216
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/clay-colored-or-pale-stool
kyiiel said:
Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. If it's a shitting dick, then it's feces.Also, white feces is a real thing. I had it before when I was young and ate a bunch of antacid tablets. There are other things that can cause white feces too: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/liver-problems/expert-answers/white-stool/faq-20058216
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/clay-colored-or-pale-stool
What seems to be the problem? I said to tag feces.
If the problem is about solid_cum, then when is it appropriate to tag it?
Thank you, everyone, for the input.
What I got so far, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that such edge cases very much hit the TWYS rule; If it looks like feces, it gets tagged as such. Even if someone (or the artist) says 'It's not /really/ feces!'
I just was not sure if I should added such tags, as I was not the artist or uploader, and I did not want to get in trouble for misusing tags.
Plus, with one person saying 'It's not what it looks like!', it seemed like doing so might lead to tag warring.
thegreatwolfgang said:
If the problem is about solid_cum, then when is it appropriate to tag it?
When it looks like solid cum. I don't know what that would look like (honestly, I only very recently heard about the tag), but if it looks like feces instead of solid cum, then it can't also look like solid cum. Just as some liquid coming out of a penis shouldn't be tagged both cum and urine if it looks just like urine. It also shouldn't be tagged i_can't_believe_it's_not_feces if it's tagged feces, since it's not not-feces.
watsit said:
When it looks like solid cum. I don't know what that would look like (honestly, I only very recently heard about the tag), but if it looks like feces instead of solid cum, then it can't also look like solid cum. Just as some liquid coming out of a penis shouldn't be tagged both cum and urine if it looks just like urine. It also shouldn't be tagged i_can't_believe_it's_not_feces if it's tagged feces, since it's not not-feces.
The thing about solid cum is that it's an unrealistic fantasy tag so there's no real reference other than how the people who are into it render it. This particular image is actually completely consistent with how other artists render solid cum, so it can be argued that that's what it looks like.
watsit said:
When it looks like solid cum. I don't know what that would look like (honestly, I only very recently heard about the tag), but if it looks like feces instead of solid cum, then it can't also look like solid cum. Just as some liquid coming out of a penis shouldn't be tagged both cum and urine if it looks just like urine. It also shouldn't be tagged i_can't_believe_it's_not_feces if it's tagged feces, since it's not not-feces.
The cumming_feces tag implies feces and unusual_cum, the latter of which also implies cum.
So in the case of post #5864319, what substance would that be tagged?
fuzzy_kobold said:
Thank you, everyone, for the input.What I got so far, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that such edge cases very much hit the TWYS rule; If it looks like feces, it gets tagged as such. Even if someone (or the artist) says 'It's not /really/ feces!'
I just was not sure if I should added such tags, as I was not the artist or uploader, and I did not want to get in trouble for misusing tags.
Plus, with one person saying 'It's not what it looks like!', it seemed like doing so might lead to tag warring.
It's far better to be safe than sorry when you're unsure. A few notes for the future:
