Topic: Clothing Store and Fitting Room

A bit over a year ago, I had noticed while tagging for a comic that at the time, both clothing store and fitting_room had pretty low numbers at the time, which confused me as I know many a hijinks that happen therein. I had attempted to make an implication request that was regrettably denied at the time, so I began combing through works to add it manually. Since then, it seems the the dressing room tag has been disambiguated, with several of its variants either condensed or lost, but clothing store itself still has yet to be defined. Before I request another implication request, I wanted to give clothing store a proper definition as to help things be more clear. In my eyes, a clothing store is simply a store that has clothes or clothing that can be sold and tried on in it, but maybe there is more to it than that.

You are welcome to create the clothing store wiki. Make sure to include examples and how one can be tagged if you do.

I don't recommend implying fitting_room to clothing_store though, since they can be depicted outside of one.

snpthecat said:
You are welcome to create the clothing store wiki. Make sure to include examples and how one can be tagged if you do.

I don't recommend implying fitting_room to clothing_store though, since they can be depicted outside of one.

Duly noted, and thank you. However, since the fitting room definition changed and dressing room was dispersed, I think I might try it again if enough discussion appears. but before that, I wanted to make sure my definition of a clothing store would be correct. I dont know if it is too simple or how much detail should be included in it.

Okay, so I looked around a bit more at other wiki entries and yeah, turns out some of them are as simple as a single sentence. So I will probably go with something as simple as the above, with maybe some examples of clothing added to it. As far as fitting rooms go, however, I'd like to bring this up again

snpthecat said:
I don't recommend implying fitting_room to clothing_store though, since they can be depicted outside of one.

Where exactly would a fitting room be, outside of a place to try on and purchase clothes? You may be thinking of green rooms or maybe even locker rooms but those are seperate entities entirely. As stated earlier, changing and dressing rooms got disambiguated within the last year, so if they such rooms do exist, like maybe a room for changing into a swimsuit somewhere, they wouldnt be considered fitting rooms.

The current definition of fitting room reads:

Small rooms where people try on clothes, such as in a department store. The rooms are usually individual rooms in which a person tries on clothes to determine fit before making a purchase. People do not always use the fitting rooms to change, as to change implies to remove one set of clothes and put on another.

So while there may be some clothing stores without fitting rooms (like some shoe stores, though you could say the store itself can be one big fitting room), every fitting room would be in a place where clothes are sold for purchase, right?

EDIT: Added description and examples to the wiki page, how does it look?

omnomynous said:

EDIT: Added description and examples to the wiki page, how does it look?

The format is that examples always come first
male
anthro
clothing
Otherwise, looks good

You may be thinking of green rooms or maybe even locker rooms but

You can link to wiki pages by encasing the tag with [[square brackets]]. You do not need to type out the link manually. See https://e621.net/help/dtext for more info.

Where exactly would a fitting room be, outside of a place to try on and purchase clothes?

When I first opposed the implication I was thinking of fitting_room as a tag for changing rooms that didn't go under green rooms or locker rooms. If we are to have fitting_room mean a place where people try on clothes before purchase, then we might have to relocate the posts for changing rooms on the beach.

Now I'm questioning whether we can imply a type of building based on a single fixture within it, and there's no precedent for such implications either. Would the fitting_room still be a clothing_store if the rest of the clothing store up and vanished? Or would it no longer be a fitting_room?

snpthecat said:
The format is that examples always come first
male
anthro
clothing
Otherwise, looks good

You can link to wiki pages by encasing the tag with [[square brackets]]. You do not need to type out the link manually. See https://e621.net/help/dtext for more info.

When I first opposed the implication I was thinking of fitting_room as a tag for changing rooms that didn't go under green rooms or locker rooms. If we are to have fitting_room mean a place where people try on clothes before purchase, then we might have to relocate the posts for changing rooms on the beach.

Now I'm questioning whether we can imply a type of building based on a single fixture within it, and there's no precedent for such implications either. Would the fitting_room still be a clothing_store if the rest of the clothing store up and vanished? Or would it no longer be a fitting_room?

Funny enough there were actually several tags a year before that solved this, but they were lost during the disambiguation. you can actually see the list of tags under dressing_room_(disambiguation).I do agree however that there should be a specifically for places like the beach as you said. Right now, if you search fitting_room -store, you get 16 full pages, despite almost all of them taking place within a store or while shopping clothes, as its one of the prime places for experimenting with stealth_sex or exhibitionism/enhibitionism

EDIT:Found some very interesting things of note through checking if there is any discussion on the topic. it seems beach_hut can serve the exact purposes we need to distinguish fitting_room from the beach fairing scenes. it also appears that there has kind of been off and on discussion about this kind of tag dating back years ago up to a few months ago, go figure.

EDIT 2: Took the time to replace to replace fitting room with beach_hut on the pages where it applied when searching under fitting_room -store. There is still 16 full pages of fitting room pics, with pretty much every single one clearly inside of a store that sells clothes. I think we can add beach_hut to the dressing_room_(disambiguation) page and then call for an implication from there. Alternatively, we can try to make the tag for changing_cabin, which helps paint a more concise picture of imaginingwhat totag than beach hut. Thoughts?