Topic: Character name tag confusion (Mario and Luigi)

This luigi tag needs to be renamed to luigi_(mario_brothers) if we refer to mario's brother and known for being his sidekick.
This mario tag also needs to be renamed to mario_(mario_brothers) if we refer to the main character of "Mario Brothers".

See all the mario_(* tags and luigi_(* tags.

-1. The problem is negligible

This is not unreasonable since Mario & Luigi are real-life given names that people use.
Heck, even Elmo and Kermit are real-life given names well before they were popularised by Sesame Street.

In contrast to how we normally deal with common character tag names, there seems to be an exception made for very popularised names, whereby 99% of the time it is tagged it would refer to the character who popularised it.
In these cases, it would be far more easier to clean up any potential mistags rather than to capture them in a disambiguation tag.

thegreatwolfgang said:
This is not unreasonable since Mario & Luigi are real-life given names that people use.
Heck, even Elmo and Kermit are real-life given names well before they were popularised by Sesame Street.

In contrast to how we normally deal with common character tag names, there seems to be an exception made for very popularised names, whereby 99% of the time it is tagged it would refer to the character who popularised it.
In these cases, it would be far more easier to clean up any potential mistags rather than to capture them in a disambiguation tag.

even Wikipedia has these names left without any disambiguation suffixes when typing the name into the URLs, Mario and Elmo, as well as Bowser (and likely many, many more examples) are the pages for the characters with no redirect, despite being real names.

although, maybe in cases like this we could choose to alias them to the character they're almost always associated with. just so the tag on the quick complete is more obvious before any mistag happens and might be a bit more clear after it happens (although I'd probably lean towards mario_mario and luigi_mario rather than adding *_(mario_bros.)). but more than that would be more trouble than it's worth.

dba_afish said:
even Wikipedia has these names left without any disambiguation suffixes when typing the name into the URLs, Mario and Elmo, as well as Bowser (and likely many, many more examples) are the pages for the characters with no redirect, despite being real names.

Interestingly enough, there was a discussion over there for renaming 'mario' to 'mario_(character)', but it failed to pass due to what Wikipedia deems as the 'primary topic' of which the name would be associated to.
In contrast, Luigi's Wikipedia URL was renamed to 'luigi_(character)' due to a certain other Luigi gaining infamy on searches, among other reasons.

Just shows you how they function when it comes to renaming and consensus voting.

thegreatwolfgang said:
Interestingly enough, there was a discussion over there for renaming 'mario' to 'mario_(character)', but it failed to pass due to what Wikipedia deems as the 'primary topic' of which the name would be associated to.
In contrast, Luigi's Wikipedia URL was renamed to 'luigi_(character)' due to a certain other Luigi gaining infamy on searches, among other reasons.

Just shows you how they function when it comes to renaming and consensus voting.

"*_(character)" is, like, a really bad disambiguator for this, what the hell?
maybe I'm mistaken, but that's not what that's usually used for, I know what _we_ use it for (separating character tags from copyright/artists) and I was pretty sure that's more or less how they're used on Wikipedia. *_(videogame_character) or *_(Nintendo) or pretty much anything else would be better.

this'd be like the page for Prince, the musical artist, being Prince_(person) rather than Prince_(musician)