Topic: Let me continue posting images.

Please. I demand that you let me upload images again. It's not fair that certain posts are deleted because some artists don't want their work published on this site and become lost media, or that only artists can post those images. I also need to post images of characters that have few images to try to rescue them from obscurity. The same goes for certain tags, in order to make them more relevant.

Yes, I have seen the DNP list, but that list is out of date. And you delete my posts without warning.

A forum post isn't the way you get this resolved.
Your best bet is to politely message the person who disabled your ability to upload.

14october said:
I also need to post images of characters that have few images to try to rescue them from obscurity. The same goes for certain tags, in order to make them more relevant.

Just save those images on your computer. Uploading isn't necessary to preserve them.
And tags don't magically disappear unless they're causing problems. So there's no danger of that.

When you dm the mod, be sure to use this exact argument to defend yourself. "I demand you let me do it" and "It's not fair that artists don't like it" is strong evidence that you should keep your upload privileges.

Those who demand power, are most likely to deserve it...

14october said:
I demand that you let me upload images again. It's not fair that certain posts are deleted because some artists don't want their work published on this site and become lost media, or that only artists can post those images.

I feel like "Give me back the privileges I lost, I promise I will break the rules again." isn't exactly the most convincing argument.

oneohthrix said:
When you dm the mod, be sure to use this exact argument to defend yourself. "I demand you let me do it" and "It's not fair that artists don't like it" is strong evidence that you should keep your upload privileges.

Those who demand power, are most likely to deserve it...

Well, I've already sent a message to NotMeNotYou and he still hasn't replied. It seems like he's playing deaf.

dba_afish said:
I feel like "Give me back the privileges I lost, I promise I will break the rules again." isn't exactly the most convincing argument.

No. That's not what I'm thinking. I check that DNP list to make sure that the image I upload isn't by an artist mentioned on that list. But sometimes they don't update that list and delete the post without warning, and then they end up updating it after they delete one of my posts.

14october said:
No. That's not what I'm thinking. I check that DNP list to make sure that the image I upload isn't by an artist mentioned on that list. But sometimes they don't update that list and delete the post without warning, and then they end up updating it after they delete one of my posts.

So not every artist knows about e6 or thinks about it. They might just ignore it until their stuff is posted here, which is when they'll file the takedown. They might not have been on the dnp list until after you posted the art.

14october said:
Yes, I have seen the DNP list, but that list is out of date.

No, no it is not. You've been linked to the Avoid Posting List multiple times, it is quite literally not possible for it to be out of date
If you're still looking at the old wiki page you're blatantly ignoring the contents being collapsed and the huge warnings posted

14october said:
And you delete my posts without warning.

..What warning do you expect? Stop uploading DNP content. You've shown here that you know the list exists yet you seem to refuse to read it

14october said:
No. That's not what I'm thinking. I check that DNP list to make sure that the image I upload isn't by an artist mentioned on that list. But sometimes they don't update that list and delete the post without warning, and then they end up updating it after they delete one of my posts.

Back up your words with proof. Link to the posts. It is extremely easy to tell. If the post didn't have either conditional dnp or avoid posting locked on when it was uploaded, they weren't dnp at the time of upload and you can dispute the record. Simple as that

Actually rather than relying on you to go through them, how about I do it for you

• post #5783493 - conditional dnp locked on upload
• user:!469954 status:deleted avoid_posting id:5355000..5376191 - you didn't tag the publisher, else avoid posting would have been locked on upload
• post #5353645 - avoid posting locked on upload
• post #4923253 - conditional dnp locked on upload

And the timings of those DNPs:

• fricken_stoat - on the list nearly 3 years before your upload, last updated in 2022 (name changed, underscore added in 2022)
• bbmbbf - on the list nearly 8 years before your upload, last updated in 2024 (name unchanged since creation)
• palcomix - on the list nearly 8 years before your upload, last updated in 2013 (name unchanged since creation)
• comfytail - on the list 4 years before your upload, last updated in 2024 (name unchanged since 2021)
• insomniacovrlrd - on the list 4 years before your upload, last updated March 2025 (name unchanged since creation)

All of these were 100% valid, the artists were dnp at the time of upload and their names were not changed, nor were more names added after the uploads

Please. You have to believe me, I saw that list, but what's going on? To save time, I use Ctrl+F to find the name I'm looking for on DNP. But there are artists who use different nicknames, and I trustingly upload those posts. In addition, there are artists who have already changed their names, and suddenly my posts end up being deleted because it turns out that the image belonged to an artist who was on the DNP list but changed to another name that was not on the DNP list.

14october said:
No. That's not what I'm thinking. I check that DNP list to make sure that the image I upload isn't by an artist mentioned on that list. But sometimes they don't update that list and delete the post without warning, and then they end up updating it after they delete one of my posts.

posts you've created that have been deleted for DNP over the past year:

post #5783493: deleted 2025-08-17
implication #47122: activated 2022-09-23
~+23 months

post #5083164: deleted 2025-08-13
implication #48957: activated 2022-12-29
~+20 months

post #5376078, post #5375966, post #5373028, post #5372972, post #5366403, post #5372873, post #5372851, post #5372817, post #5372805, post #5369582, post #5369549, post #5369525, post #5366611, post #5366578, post #5366549, post #5366487, post #5366467, post #5366452, post #5366431, post #5366414, post #5376185, post #5376190, post #5376070: deleted 2025-02-16
implication #10336: activated 2017-04-18
~+94 months

I guess I have nothing more to say, to be honest. I'm uploading posts to the site because my goal is for certain tags to have as many posts as possible, thereby helping to train AI models based on image generation created in Stable Diffusion. More specifically, models such as Illustrious and NoobAI. The datasets for these models take reference images from danbooru and e621. The more posts a certain tag has, the closer it will be able to generate something similar to what is generated in the image. However, there are tags that have few posts, and therefore the models do not generate what one would expect. This means having to rely on the use of Loras models to generate obscure characters or certain body parts that do not have as many images. That is why I have dedicated time and effort to uploading images to this site and posting them so that tags have as many as possible and to help people who train AI models. However, I didn't know what to expect, and I was surprised to find that some people don't want their art uploaded to that page, but I didn't have time for those discussions. I had to help some of the people who generate images with AI and spend their time posting them on e6AI.

14october said:
Things

post #4739917

No.

Fap only.

14october said:
(a bunch of bullshit)

This is just about the worst thing you could have said here

It's also a great way to get those artists whose posts you have uploaded and weren't dnp to now go dnp
This shit is literally one of the biggest reasons artists go DNP lately, congrats on actively contributing to that

I hope you're never able to upload again.

14october said:
I guess I have nothing more to say, to be honest. I'm uploading posts to the site because my goal is for certain tags to have as many posts as possible, thereby helping to train AI models based on image generation created in Stable Diffusion. More specifically, models such as Illustrious and NoobAI. The datasets for these models take reference images from danbooru and e621. The more posts a certain tag has, the closer it will be able to generate something similar to what is generated in the image. However, there are tags that have few posts, and therefore the models do not generate what one would expect. This means having to rely on the use of Loras models to generate obscure characters or certain body parts that do not have as many images. That is why I have dedicated time and effort to uploading images to this site and posting them so that tags have as many as possible and to help people who train AI models. However, I didn't know what to expect, and I was surprised to find that some people don't want their art uploaded to that page, but I didn't have time for those discussions. I had to help some of the people who generate images with AI and spend their time posting them on e6AI.

Consider your appeal officially denied.

I'm not referring to weird fetishes or anything like that. I don't like things like gore, farts, watersports, scat, and diapers. I'm referring to characters or certain body parts that have few images on that page. That's why I uploaded a couple of images of the character Sorrel from Dragon Ball Super, for example, in an attempt to help people who use AI to generate better images related to that character.

On any art site you'll find a lot of people dislike AI, and that's especially the case here. Talking about posting images for the purpose of AI training is close to the worst thing you could have said (outside of the various things that would just get you banned, at least). Also, people training AI models on art from here might be legal, that's not settled, but it's certainly not very moral - a ton of the artists here expressly do not want that.

spe said:
Consider your appeal officially denied.

No, please. Give me a second chance. This is my hobby, and I don't want to give it up because I live in Venezuela, a country ruled by a regime. Posting on that page is the only way I can stay happy, because so many bad things have happened to me that my parents took me out of school because I was being bullied. It's all because of this regime, and it made me depressed. My parents are retired and don't earn enough to buy me a gaming PC. So please don't take this great opportunity away from me because I don't want to keep seeing the sad reality of what is happening in Venezuela.

14october said:
I guess I have nothing more to say, to be honest. I'm uploading posts to the site because my goal is for certain tags to have as many posts as possible, thereby helping to train AI models based on image generation created in Stable Diffusion. More specifically, models such as Illustrious and NoobAI. The datasets for these models take reference images from danbooru and e621. The more posts a certain tag has, the closer it will be able to generate something similar to what is generated in the image. However, there are tags that have few posts, and therefore the models do not generate what one would expect. This means having to rely on the use of Loras models to generate obscure characters or certain body parts that do not have as many images. That is why I have dedicated time and effort to uploading images to this site and posting them so that tags have as many as possible and to help people who train AI models. However, I didn't know what to expect, and I was surprised to find that some people don't want their art uploaded to that page, but I didn't have time for those discussions. I had to help some of the people who generate images with AI and spend their time posting them on e6AI.

It's really funny how you mention you're surprised people don't want their art uploaded here but then talk about doing all this for something widely despised within the artistic community.

oneohthrix said:
"My passion is slavishly tagging art so that it can be fed into a model against the artist's consent ❤️. If you stop me you are hurting poor Venezuelan child with no gaming PC 😭"

I blame Bad Dragon for attracting these people.

I'm not a child. I'm almost 29 years old and I don't have a job because my parents took me out of school when I was younger and I couldn't graduate from university. And I haven't been able to find a decent job because I don't have a university degree.

It is impressive how you kept shooting yourself in the foot with every message

You are nothing more than a couple of rich people who mock people from the third world, such as Venezuela, regardless of whether that person has depression or not. I am one of those depressed people, because I was locked up in your house for so long that my stepbrother left this country and went to the US, and when he was able to go to that country, he couldn't invite me and my family to go with him. The worst part is that I have a father who is a Chavista and, as part of Chavismo, hates everything related to the US government and supports governments that are also left-wing regimes, such as China and Russia. He refuses to accept the reality that Maduro is going to solve Venezuela's problems when that guy never does anything for his own people. That's why I was posting art on this page, because it was a way to escape the sad reality I'm going through.

14october said:
You are nothing more than a couple of rich people who mock people from the third world, such as Venezuela, regardless of whether that person has depression or not. I am one of those depressed people, because I was locked up in your house for so long that my stepbrother left this country and went to the US, and when he was able to go to that country, he couldn't invite me and my family to go with him. The worst part is that I have a father who is a Chavista and, as part of Chavismo, hates everything related to the US government and supports governments that are also left-wing regimes, such as China and Russia. He refuses to accept the reality that Maduro is going to solve Venezuela's problems when that guy never does anything for his own people. That's why I was posting art on this page, because it was a way to escape the sad reality I'm going through.

who was mocking you for being from Venezuela? unfortunately, having depression and being from a poorer country doesn't make the rules apply any less. just stick to tagging for a while and then try appealing respectfully to an admin, without lashing out and begging for sympathy

14october said:
You are nothing more than a couple of rich people who mock people from the third world, such as Venezuela, regardless of whether that person has depression or not. I am one of those depressed people, because I was locked up in your house for so long that my stepbrother left this country and went to the US, and when he was able to go to that country, he couldn't invite me and my family to go with him. The worst part is that I have a father who is a Chavista and, as part of Chavismo, hates everything related to the US government and supports governments that are also left-wing regimes, such as China and Russia. He refuses to accept the reality that Maduro is going to solve Venezuela's problems when that guy never does anything for his own people. That's why I was posting art on this page, because it was a way to escape the sad reality I'm going through.

post #2442734

14october said:
No, please. Give me a second chance.

You need to stop making demands and antagonising everybody when you are not getting what you wanted.
Actually learn from your mistakes when you have been given multiple opportunities to do so. There is literally no chance you could miss an artist that is on the DNP list when you have to add in their artist tag to the post.

If you want to appeal, you should be approaching the head admin @NotMeNotYou and waiting for their response, no matter how long it takes.
He will either reply to you or he will not. Calling him deaf will not improve your chances.

Actively stating that your goal is to train AI models is also highly frowned upon here, both by artists and by the community.
While we do have e6AI as a sister site, it was created by the site owners themselves and is not supported by many of the staff here. The staff over at e6AI is also a completely separate team.
If you still want to contribute more to AI, take your efforts over there. Otherwise, don't go around and openly telling people you are doing it for the sake of training AI models.

As a final word of advice, you need to find a better hobby to do. I understand that the situation is extremely grim in Venezuela and that you are using e6 as a crutch to get through life, but it is not going to improve your own personal life.
Take some initiative and see if it is possible for you to get back into university to continue your studies. Contact support groups, either an organisation or an online chat group, and see what could be done.

14october said:
It's not fair that certain posts are deleted because some artists don't want their work published on this site and become lost media, or that only artists can post those images.

Sounds completely fair to me, they don’t want other people posting their works on here, that’s their decision.

Ok, that's enough; I think just about everything that needs to be said has been, so let's clean up a few things & stop this before we all regret it.

Point #1

14october said:
It's not fair that certain posts are deleted because some artists don't want their work published on this site and become lost media, or that only artists can post those images.

If you think it's unfair, don't blame site staff, blame legislators; this is US copyright law.
[Source]

[T]he Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act ("OCILLA"), creates a safe harbor for online service providers (OSPs, including ISPs) against copyright infringement liability, provided they meet specific requirements. OSPs must[, among other things,] promptly block access to alleged infringing material (or remove such material from their systems) when they receive notification of an infringement claim from a copyright holder [...] (a "notice and takedown" process).

We aren't drawing the ire of the US government (and international ones iirc) because we got lax about stopping people from illegally redistributing artist's works against their express wishes, especially when the explicitly stated purpose was to train generative AI that would then compete with them for commissions^[1]. On top of, you know, the obvious moral imperative to not screw over artists by hosting their work against their wishes. I'd like to believe that's the only point I'd need to cite to convince you, but you clearly require a reason less dependent on pathos.

YouTube's (admittedly god awful) copyright system is for the same purpose; in fact, Viacom's suit against YouTube is the very case law that many sites rely on to allow users to submit content at all.

So yeah, we're gonna need something a little better than "it's not fair that I can't upload other people's stuff when they explicitly say they don't want their work here". Even if we believed similarly (which again, we absolutely do not), that's not enough for us to needlessly risk getting smacked with a lawsuit.

Point #2

14october said:
No, please. Give me a second chance.

This wouldn't be your second chance, nor your third chance, nor your fourth chance; this would be #5, & had you handled this appropriately, you would have gotten it.

Versperus said:
You've been warned multiple times about this, as such you're ability to upload will be disabled until you take the time to go over our DNP list.

Versperus told you they were taking away your ability to upload temporarily. It's their call (& ultimately our admins' call when they get around to it, because they are very busy) whether or not that's still on the table, but as you been told, repeatedly stating that you haven't learned a thing & you fully intend to repeat the exact same behavior that forced us to disable them is not a winning strategy.

Point #3

14october said:
You are nothing more than a couple of rich people who mock people from the third world, such as Venezuela, regardless of whether that person has depression or not.

None of us had any idea of your nationality or mental health conditions prior to you disclosing it. Similarly, you have no idea what our financial situations are. As a lower-middle class American born from an Jamaican immigrant & a 2nd generation American, you can rest assured that my support of how Versperus chose to enforce our clearly-expressed rules (that you were previously warned of & acknowledged being aware of) is untainted by racism & classism; if I'd been the one to handle your ticket, I'd have either done the exact same thing or banned you outright.

Additionally, while I'm of course sympathetic to your struggles, they have no bearing on the severity of your infractions, just like how going out for a drink because you're upset your wife cheated on you wouldn't absolve you of guilt from blowing past a stop sign & killing someone while driving home drunk. That is an explanation, not an excuse.

It's worth stating explicitly that you were warned about this specifically at least 3 times before your newest infraction; going by our rules on records & bans, we were generous in not banning you outright. Listen to Wolfgang, & please do not make us re-evaluate that decision.

^{[1]: I specify b/c that, along with the parent company collecting ad revenue from people viewing the works of unwilling artists here, constitute commercial & competition elements that stack the deck pretty high against a fair use exception; there'd be an almost insurmountably high bar to clear to make this legal w/o the safe harbor provision.}