The tag implication #66151 forced_impregnation -> unwanted_impregnation is pending approval.

Reason: They're the same tag.

Not really. Unwanted impregnation could cover for example just accidental impregnation, which is not same thing as forced. Unwanted in general seems to be used as separate from forced counterparts.

rupikonna said:
Not really. Unwanted impregnation could cover for example just accidental impregnation, which is not same thing as forced.

although this is an implication request, though. presumably anything that's forced would be unwanted, no?

rupikonna said:
Not really. Unwanted impregnation could cover for example just accidental impregnation, which is not same thing as forced.

In that sense, that would also mean it's not (necessarily) unwanted. If someone wasn't intending to get pregnant, but does on accident and is fine with it, that's neither a forced or unwanted impregnation. To be forced, it would be something that isn't wanted and happens anyway. I don't think it needs to be a violent act or anything like that to be forced, it just needs to be against their will. An alias would make sense to me.

dba_afish said:
although this is an implication request, though. presumably anything that's forced would be unwanted, no?

Rape kinks are a thing, so theoretically........

donovan_dmc said:
Rape kinks are a thing, so theoretically........

it wouldn't be forced, then, would it? forced is for specifically nonconsensual acts. characters engaging in stuff like rape_play isn't considered forced, and if that resulted in a pregnancy wouldn't be considered forced_pregnancy.

rupikonna said:
Not really. Unwanted impregnation could cover for example just accidental impregnation, which is not same thing as forced. Unwanted in general seems to be used as separate from forced counterparts.

Accidental_impregnation is a tag.

Looking at other tags, there's also forced_to_inseminate and forced_to_breed. Forced_to_cum_inside and unwanted_cum_inside. A lot of forced_'xyz' and forced_'xyz_but_worded_different_but_meaning_the_same_thing' and unwanted_'xyz' stuff. So I think this might be a lot bigger of a tangle than I expected.

dba_afish said:
it wouldn't be forced, then, would it? forced is for specifically nonconsensual acts.

I don't think having a rape kink would automatically make everything consensual

donovan_dmc said:
I don't think having a rape kink would automatically make everything consensual

Rape_play is about acting that it's nonconsensual, while it's actually consentual. The forced and unwanted tags are both for when it's nonconsensual and not just acting like it.

donovan_dmc said:
I don't think having a rape kink would automatically make everything consensual

okay? I'm not sure what your point is here.

the definition of forced is literally "against a character's will", something they didn't want, so if a character wants it it's no longer forced. for TWYS purposes, I don't see how it'd be possible for a character to want something and simultaneously not consent to that same thing.