Implicating white_lion -> feline.

Reason: A lion is a feline :p

Is there any advantage to using white_lion instead of lion white_fur?

Less tagging? 

If we have tags like white_lion, we'd have to tag other colors of other animals, would we not?

Pyke said:
If we have tags like white_lion, we'd have to tag other colors of other animals, would we not?

But lion and white lion aren't the same. It's just like leopard and snow leopard, not the same. Also, panda and red_panda, definitely not the same

TheHuskyK9 said:
But lion and white lion aren't the same. It's just like leopard and snow leopard, not the same. Also, panda and red_panda, definitely not the same

Same species.
panda/red_panda and leopard/snow_leopard are separate species.

White lions are just a mutation, it's the same species.

Yeah, white lions are just an albino breed of normal lions, kept white through selective breeding. More like a specific lineage instead of a separate species.

NotMeNotYouMobile said:
Yeah, white lions are just an albino breed of normal lions, kept white through selective breeding. More like a specific lineage instead of a separate species.

Uh, not actually albino, but leucistic.
Albinism is the total lack of all skin pigmentation, which results in pink eyes among other things.
Leucism is a separate condition, caused by a mutation of a different recessive gene than albinism.

Regardless, we don't have white or albino tags for every species that can be white or albino, we shouldn't have one for lions.

Yeah, if red_panda was actually just a normal panda, identical in every way except it has red fur instead of white fur, then we wouldn't use red_panda, we would use panda red_fur. Same thing with this.

The only problem is, barely anybody remembers to actually tag *_fur and lion white_fur wouldn't come up with all the results wanted.

I still think e621 needs some sort of multiple alias system, so white_lion could alias both white_fur and lion. I'm sure it'll be useful in multiple other cases too.

I'm all for the multiple alias/implication thing, I think that's long overdue. But people forgetting to tag *_fur is an issue with lazy/uninformed users, not the tagging system. I think if it were put out there more, people would tag it more.

Rocket_Corgi said:
I think if it were put out there more, people would tag it more.

I think this is exactly what needs to happen, if people see "white_fur" as a tag they'll be more likely to use it. Seeing as a tiny percentage of posts with actual white fur are tagged white_fur, I'm sure not many people know about its existence, and the same for every other *_fur tag, and the *_eyes tags get the same problem, but less of it.

Some people are tagging *_body instead *_fur.
Also I'm not sure about multi-alias to white_fur. I'm pretty sure that there is a way to draw something that would still get both albino, and lion tags, but would not have fur.

Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
I'm pretty sure that there is a way to draw something that would still get both albino, and lion tags, but would not have fur.

White lions aren't albino, it's just a colour mutation. There'd be no way of telling if it was white or not without its fur.

Seven_Twenty said:
White lions aren't albino, it's just a colour mutation. There'd be no way of telling if it was white or not without its fur.

Anthro lion with white hair, and all fur shaved?
White lion with body made of latex?
White lion drawn that way that its body type is absolutely ambiguous?

White lion with fur that's dyed blue guys, come on we gotta keep this pointless tag.

Hammie said:
White lion with fur that's dyed blue guys, come on we gotta keep this pointless tag.

I'm not saying that this tag should exists. I'm just saying that, if there were multi-aliases, it shouldn't be aliased to white_fur.
I'm for aliasing this tag to lion, and just to lion.

Gilda_The_Gryphon said:
I'm not saying that this tag should exists. I'm just saying that, if there were multi-aliases, it shouldn't be aliased to white_fur.
I'm for aliasing this tag to lion, and just to lion.

OIC, ignore my snarkiness then, I agree with you.
TBH the images you listed above shouldn't be tagged white_lion even if it was a good tag, but bad taggers would still tag it as such and we'd end up with bad white_fur tags for no reason.

Hammie said:
OIC, ignore my snarkiness then, I agree with you.
TBH the images you listed above shouldn't be tagged white_lion even if it was a good tag, but bad taggers would still tag it as such and we'd end up with bad white_fur tags for no reason.

To be honest, I'm not really sure about third case in my list, and maybe I'm overusing *_fur tag sometimes a lot. But what is ambiguous seems to be... ambiguous. I mean look at
post #337224
How can you distinguish whether it is fur and not a skin without knowledge that equines have something outside the skin. But if it's yellow skin we should remove cute tag, and add nightmare_fuel tag. Feral ponies with skin... *shivers*

Where will I get my Blue_eyes_white_lion now?

Mario583 said:
Where will I get my Blue_eyes_white_lion now?

I activated my trap card and removed it from the game.