The bulk update request #9440 is active.

Reason: Best to alias tags away to their closest match when possible rather than invalidating, imo. Prevents any need for future cleanup. IIRC first the categories have to be flipped back though, because of how BURs work?
All the ones that currently have images have been checked to make sure they all have all applicable valid tags

(I don't like the shota/loli tags either. But they currently exist, and are currently the most accurate target for lolidonk/shotadonk. Eventually after the shota/loli -> young_male/young_female change goes through, these tags can be re-aliased.)

EDIT: The bulk update request #9440 (forum #421654) has been approved by @spe.

You don't need to change category if you're aliasing to a tag with >10000 posts iirc

The bulk update request #9442 is active.

create alias dragon_on_gryphon (0) -> interspecies (314179)
create alias shotadonk (0) -> shota (37465)
create alias lolidonk (1) -> loli (31378)
create alias dragon_on_anthro (57) -> dragon (363785)
create alias humanoid_genitalia_on_anthro (60) -> humanoid_genitalia (508393)
create alias dragriffin (0) -> hybrid (165610)
create alias leashed_young (0) -> leash (54973)
create alias strapon_on_feral (0) -> strapon (11213)
create alias cum_in_feral (0) -> cum_inside (407778)
create alias white_tooth (0) -> teeth (727429)
create alias feral_penetrated_young (0) -> feral (625854)
create alias male_werewolf (0) -> male (2548815)
create alias only_man (0) -> male (2548815)
create alias bondage_with_feral (0) -> bondage (117127)
create alias feral_toying_feral (0) -> feral_on_feral (47121)
create alias sexual_young_female (0) -> young_female (39403)

Reason: You can skip most of the first BUR I believe (strapon is cutting it close)

Removed
alias panties_on_feral -> clothed_feral alias lingerie_on_feral -> clothed_feral alias adult_raping_young -> adult_on_young alias young_raping_young -> young_on_young
because btr

EDIT: The bulk update request #9442 (forum #421657) has been approved by @spe.

What do you guys think about the *_raping_* tags? Or at least the [form]_raping_[form] ones? Should they be fully removed or be brought back?

snpthecat said:
What do you guys think about the *_raping_* tags? Or at least the [form]_raping_[form] ones? Should they be fully removed or be brought back?

Removed, in favor of separate x_raping and x_raped tags.

snpthecat said:
You don't need to change category if you're aliasing to a tag with >10000 posts iirc

Thank you! Didn't know that

Edit: Also +1 for x_raping or x_rapist and x_raped

dragon_on_gryphon -interspecies post #5075125 was the one whole post not tagged.
Cool to see someone else use the checklist method. :wink:

snpthecat said:
What do you guys think about the *_raping_* tags? Or at least the [form]_raping_[form] ones? Should they be fully removed or be brought back?

TBH, I only use tags like that to cover bases more quickly. It's about the same time to tag the two separate tags, so not sure what use they are. They don't look super used except for the most common few combinations.
ambiguous_raping_* -ambiguous_raping
andromorph_raping_male -andromorph_raping
anthro_raping_* -anthro_raping
female_raping_* -female_raping
feral_raping_* -feral_raping
gynomorph_raping_* -gynomorph_raping
human_raping_* -human_raping
male_raping_* -male_raping

*raping_ambiguous -ambiguous_raped
*raping_male -andromorph_raped
*raping_anthro -anthro_raped
*raping_female -female_raped
*raping_feral -feral_raped
*raping_gynomorph -gynomorph_raped
*raping_human -human_raped
*raping_male -male_raped

ambiguous_raping_ambiguous -ambiguous/ambiguous
ambiguous_raping_andromorph -andromorph/ambiguous
ambiguous_raping_female -female/ambiguous
ambiguous_raping_gynomorph -gynomorph/ambiguous
ambiguous_raping_male -male/ambiguous

andromorph_raping_male -andromorph/male

anthro_raping_anthro -anthro_on_anthro
anthro_raping_human -human_on_anthro
anthro_raping_male -male_on_anthro

female_raping_ambiguous -female/ambiguous
female_raping_andromorph -andromorph/female
female_raping_female -female/female
female_raping_gynomorph -female/gynomorph
female_raping_male -male/female

feral_raping_feral -feral/feral
feral_raping_human -human_on_feral

human_raping_anthro -human_on_anthro

Felinus Interruptus OK, back to business. There, I shortened the hell out of this list.

The bulk update request #9488 is pending approval.

create alias male_raping_human (0) -> male_raping (21)

Reason: Removed this line from the original to be voted on separately (and this tag will need to be changed back to general first). Should this tag be aliased to male_raping, rape, or male_rapist? The prefer the first option because of the already existing setup to move *_rape to *_raping at topic #42000

IMO *_rapist sounds a lot more natural than *_raping

wandering_spaniel said:
IMO *_rapist sounds a lot more natural than *_raping

I'm torn. *_raping does sound off, but *_rapist I feel could be misused as meaning a character that is a rapist, who has raped in the past or soon will, rather than meaning a character that's actively raping another.

watsit said:
I'm torn. *_raping does sound off, but *_rapist I feel could be misused as meaning a character that is a rapist, who has raped in the past or soon will, rather than meaning a character that's actively raping another.

Well, what if we actually allowed that, so (gender)_rapist includes imminent_rape and after_rape scenarios as well? It might be more useful this way.

The bulk update request #9440 (forum #421654) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #9442 (forum #421657) has been approved by @spe.

spe said:
Well, what if we actually allowed that, so (gender)_rapist includes imminent_rape and after_rape scenarios as well? It might be more useful this way.

I was thinking more generally, including situations that wouldn't qualify for imminent_rape or after_rape. Characters known to have raped in their past even if there's nothing rapey going on in a given image.

watsit said:
I was thinking more generally, including situations that wouldn't qualify for imminent_rape or after_rape. Characters known to have raped in their past even if there's nothing rapey going on in a given image.

Yeah, most of that would just be lore tagging and would need to be cleaned out. I don't expect we'd have too much of that, but it probably would happen on occasion.
(gender)_raping, on the other hand, sounds like it would exclude even obvious imminent_rape and after_rape scenarios, though.

spe said:
Well, what if we actually allowed that, so (gender)_rapist includes imminent_rape and after_rape scenarios as well? It might be more useful this way.

Sounds good to me

The bulk update request #9503 is active.

create alias panties_on_feral (4) -> clothed_feral (8523)

Reason: The followups. I assume the male_raping_human BUR is going to be put on ice for now?

EDIT: The bulk update request #9503 (forum #422256) has been approved by @spe.

Ah damn, I didn't notice the BTRs weren't going to be removed by the original BUR

The bulk update request #9504 is active.

remove alias feral_in_lingerie (0) -> lingerie_on_feral (912)
remove alias adult_raping_cub (0) -> adult_raping_young (0)
remove implication adult_raping_young (0) -> adult_on_young (12618)
remove implication adult_raping_young (0) -> young (241142)
remove implication adult_raping_young (0) -> rape (48479)
remove alias cub_raping_cub (0) -> young_raping_young (0)
remove implication young_raping_young (0) -> young_rape (73)
remove implication young_raping_young (0) -> young_raped (827)

Followup:
alias lingerie_on_feral -> clothed_feral
alias feral_in_lingerie -> clothed_feral
alias adult_raping_young -> adult_on_young
alias adult_raping_cub -> adult_on_young
alias young_raping_young -> young_on_young
alias cub_raping_cub -> young_on_young

EDIT: The bulk update request #9504 (forum #422258) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #9503 (forum #422256) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #9504 (forum #422258) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #9513 is pending approval.

create alias lingerie_on_feral (912) -> clothed_feral (8523)
create alias feral_in_lingerie (0) -> clothed_feral (8523)
create alias adult_raping_young (0) -> adult_on_young (12618)
create alias adult_raping_cub (0) -> adult_on_young (12618)
create alias young_raping_young (0) -> young_on_young (9810)
create alias cub_raping_cub (0) -> young_on_young (9810)

Reason: Final folloowup

snpthecat said:
The bulk update request #9513 is pending approval.

create alias lingerie_on_feral (912) -> clothed_feral (8523)
create alias feral_in_lingerie (0) -> clothed_feral (8523)
create alias adult_raping_young (0) -> adult_on_young (12618)
create alias adult_raping_cub (0) -> adult_on_young (12618)
create alias young_raping_young (0) -> young_on_young (9810)
create alias cub_raping_cub (0) -> young_on_young (9810)

Reason: Final folloowup

ferals wearing lingerie make up 10% of clothed ferals. I don't think the tag is invalid, it clearly has a valid and established use. (I use it when searching). This change will makes it more difficult to search for them. Searching 'feral lingerie' gives a bunch of images in which ferals are not wearing lingerie.

Here is the previous discussion: https://e621.net/forum_topics/12495

I'm for renaming it if you can think of something better, but aliasing it away would only have a negative impact on searchability and for tagging.

kyiiel said:
ferals wearing lingerie make up 10% of clothed ferals. I don't think the tag is invalid, it clearly has a valid and established use. (I use it when searching). This change will makes it more difficult to search for them. Searching 'feral lingerie' gives a bunch of images in which ferals are not wearing lingerie.

Here is the previous discussion: https://e621.net/forum_topics/12495

I'm for renaming it if you can think of something better, but aliasing it away would only have a negative impact on searchability and for tagging.

Try clothed_feral lingerie

This discussion has led me to realise there is also feral lingerie, though whether it's just a duplicate, or furgonomics eludes me

snpthecat said:
Try clothed_feral lingerie

This discussion has led me to realise there is also feral lingerie, though whether it's just a duplicate, or furgonomics eludes me

That does give desirable results.

I think aliasing it to feral lingerie would be better though, it avoids the 'bodytype-x-y' tag format. It's also consistent with feral_armor.

I agree tagging a specific bodytype wearing clothing doesn't make sense. The type of clothing itself should be tagged instead.

Also, instead of 'clothed_feral', we should tag 'feral_clothing' instead.

feral_lingerie makes some sense, particularly since normal, unmodified lingerie couldn't possibly fit on a feral. And that would imply furgonomics, naturally.

The bulk update request #9562 is pending approval.

create implication feral_lingerie (11) -> lingerie (42371)
create implication feral_lingerie (11) -> furgonomics (56568)

Reason: Hmm yeah it could work. Would most of lingerie on feral be feral_lingerie?

spe said:
feral_lingerie makes some sense, particularly since normal, unmodified lingerie couldn't possibly fit on a feral. And that would imply furgonomics, naturally.

Should we rename to furgonomic_lingerie and have it be for any furry-modified lingerie?

AFAICR, panties_on_feral was supposed to be replaced with feral_underwear (or clothed_feral) and panties? I assume it was the same for lingerie?

There's an artist that does really cute quilava dress art, too.