Topic: [FAILED] A gross but necessary BUR (cw: graphic scat tags)

The bulk update request #6555 is active.

create alias objects_in_scat (0) -> object_in_feces (119)
create alias clothes_in_scat (1) -> clothing_in_feces (6)
create alias bones_in_scat (6) -> bones_in_feces (733)
create alias fur_in_scat (0) -> fur_in_feces (1)
create alias covered_in_scat (4) -> covered_in_feces (63)
create alias objects_in_feces (0) -> object_in_feces (119)
create alias corn_in_feces (14) -> food_in_feces (33)
create alias visible_scat (0) -> feces (20002)
create alias food_scat (4) -> food_feces (96)
create alias sentient_scat (0) -> sentient_feces (12)
create implication skull_in_feces (221) -> bones_in_feces (733)
create implication covered_in_feces (63) -> feces (20002)
create implication prey_in_feces (86) -> full_tour (623)
create alias ice_cream_scat (5) -> ice_cream_feces (24)
create alias chocolate_scat (2) -> chocolate_feces (0)
create alias candy_scat (4) -> candy_feces (24)

Reason:

Thread-wide TL;DR for scat-averse peeps;

I'm trying to update a bunch of scat and feces tags and then imply them accordingly. If this sounds good to you and would help keep scat and feces from appearing in your searches, consider leaving an approval.

Part 1

I'm back with another massive kinky BUR. This is intended to cement and downsize the scat -> feces context transition as well as create tag trees for more specific scat/feces situations and kinks, including vore and disposal.
Please contribute any ideas you have if this is your area.

Opinions/answers needed:

• Is there a way to at least imply standing/kneeling/sitting/laying in feces as one thing?

EDIT: The bulk update request #6555 (forum #390791) has failed: Error: food_in_feces already implies feces through another implication (create implication food_in_feces -> feces)

EDIT: The bulk update request #6555 (forum #390791) has been approved by @spe.

Shouldn't food_scat and the tags implying it instead be named food_feces/ice_cream_feces/etc?

I can't manually check this myself for obvious reasons but, holding_in_feces, that sounds like it would be for desperation where the character really needs to poop. Therefore no feces would be visible, so it shouldn't imply feces (if i'm right about the meaning)

Some of these have 0 posts and I think they fit better either the feces tag itself or another tag.
And lemme add, "fur in scat" what the hell does that mean?
"Corn in feces" is probably not food, there is a real parasite that lay eggs in a person's bowels and then they shit out whitish eggs. This should be aliased to another tag, maybe it should be renamed while we're at it.

eta: I went in to see what's in the posts that were tagged corn in feces, the first post is exactly what I was saying earlier, this ain't corn, but then the other 2 posts with a pony have what might be corn. This tag in particular is real bad.

wolfmanfur said:
"fur in scat" what the hell does that mean?

I assume it means when a predator eats a furred animal and there's bits of fur in their poop

cloudpie said:
Shouldn't food_scat and the tags implying it instead be named food_feces/ice_cream_feces/etc?

You're very likely correct and I was debating that myself. I'm just a little confused on where scat becomes feces when it comes to characters shown pooping, which is almost always the case in food_scat works. Of course, it still doesn't necessitate a character defecating, so that's probably a sound decision. I was just afraid to make a problematic technical change.

I can't manually check this myself for obvious reasons but, holding_in_feces, that sounds like it would be for desperation where the character really needs to poop. Therefore no feces would be visible, so it shouldn't imply feces (if i'm right about the meaning)

Also true! I was a little sleepy when I made this lol. I won't touch holding tag because it may cause an issue of technicality.

Thank you! ^^

wolfmanfur said:
Some of these have 0 posts and I think they fit better either the feces tag itself or another tag.
And lemme add, "fur in scat" what the hell does that mean?
"Corn in feces" is probably not food, there is a real parasite that lay eggs in a person's bowels and then they shit out whitish eggs. This should be aliased to another tag, maybe it should be renamed while we're at it.

eta: I went in to see what's in the posts that were tagged corn in feces, the first post is exactly what I was saying earlier, this ain't corn, but then the other 2 posts with a pony have what might be corn. This tag in particular is real bad.

Just because tags aren't currently used doesn't mean that they've never been used and aren't problematic. Just because a tag is misused doesn't mean it can't be applied correctly.

Let me clear some things up.

• Fur exits in feces when a furred creature is digested.
• The corn was food going in and exited undigested.
• Eggs in feces is self-explanatory. Literally just eggs in feces, in any case, regardless of how they got there. If you want to make a case about parasites, please do so seperately.

These are all very real things that some people like to see depicted in art. And there is lots of it waiting to be uploaded or tagged.

I'm sorry, but you seem a little too confused about the subject. :P

catskill said:
Just because tags aren't currently used doesn't mean that they've never been used and aren't problematic. Just because a tag is misused doesn't mean it can't be applied correctly.

Let me clear some things up.

Fur exits in feces when a furred creature is digested.
The corn was food going in and exited undigested.
Eggs in feces is self-explanatory. Literally just eggs in feces, in any case, regardless of how they got there. If you want to make a case about parasites, please do so seperately.
These are all very real things that some people like to see depicted in art. And there is lots of it waiting to be uploaded or tagged.

I'm sorry, but you seem a little too confused about the subject. :P

If the whole point of corn_in_feces is to tag posts where corn is left undigested when shat out, then 0 post would fit the tag. With the 2 pictures of the pony character it is still inside the macro and can still be digested and then the first post is, once again, eggs.

I don't see the point of these aliases.

catskill said:
I'm just a little confused on where scat becomes feces

As far as i'm aware, the scat tag here refers to sex acts involving feces/characters showing sexual attraction to feces only. The actual substance is just called feces

I don't really understand what Wolfmanfur's issue with the corn tag is, that seems like it would be a pretty common trope, just undertagged right now

cloudpie said:
As far as i'm aware, the scat tag here refers to sex acts involving feces/characters showing sexual attraction to feces only. The actual substance is just called feces

I don't really understand what Wolfmanfur's issue with the corn tag is, that seems like it would be a pretty common trope

Clearly, it's not. Only 3 posts have ever been tagged and 1 of them isn't tagged right to boot.

wolfmanfur said:
Clearly, it's not. Only 3 posts have ever been tagged and 1 of them isn't tagged right to boot.

cloudpie said:
I don't really understand what Wolfmanfur's issue with the corn tag is, that seems like it would be a pretty common trope, just undertagged right now

The outside parts of corn kernels often go through undigested. I'm pretty sure I've seen this in adult animated shows or something before. Sorry I can't try and populate the tag because the subject matter is not something I'm willing to look at, but I do bet there are plenty more applicable images. Maybe OP can try and populate it a bit more?

Corn in feces IS a common trope that's undertagged. I have feces blocked 90% of the time and I still noticed that. :P
Also, it doesn't matter if the feces is still in the digestive tract, it still counts as feces, no?

cloudpie said:
The outside parts of corn kernels often go through undigested. I'm pretty sure I've seen this in adult animated shows or something before. Sorry I can't try and populate the tag because the subject matter is not something I'm willing to look at, but I do bet there are plenty more applicable images. Maybe OP can try and populate it a bit more?

You added the last bit of your comment after I tried to reply to you. You edited it.

Maybe you're right about that, but I've never seen this ever on any post here or fraffinity, I did see many eggs in shit and the egg_in_feces tag has a post count in the double digits.

wolfmanfur said:
If the whole point of corn_in_feces is to tag posts where corn is left undigested when shat out, then 0 post would fit the tag. With the 2 pictures of the pony character it is still inside the macro and can still be digested and then the first post is, once again, eggs.

I don't see the point of these aliases.

I hate that I'm arguing about this here, but I want you to understand the significance of it.
Corn is a universally-understood partially-undigestable food, and there's lots of art (potentially in the many hundreds to thousands) with corn (and other food) contained in feces, either soon to be uploaded or simply not tagged yet. Because this site isn't overly-concerned with the specific content of feces beyond generality, corn doesn't deserve it's own tag, nor does any other undigested food matter, and is going to be "food" instead.

The post you're saying contains eggs actually doesn't contain eggs (or corn for that matter). I'm pretty sure those are supposed to be coffee cherries (Kopi Luwak) (slight content warning but people drink this). The tag's misuse is still irrelevant.

Edit: I guess this whole thing is a little redundant as of posting but I can be slow at writing lol.

cloudpie said:
As far as i'm aware, the scat tag here refers to sex acts involving feces/characters showing sexual attraction to feces only. The actual substance is just called feces

Fair enough. The wiki deserves a clear distinction for defecation because I'm definitely not the only one who's been confused.
I'll hit those implicated scat tags with an alias later because I need a break from this site for now lol. Thank you again.

catskill said:
Because this site isn't overly-concerned with the specific content of feces beyond generality, corn doesn't deserve it's own tag, nor does any other undigested food matter, and is going to be "food" instead.

To be honest... I totally misread that corn -> food line as an implication at first and thought that was fine, lol. I guess an alias is fine too though. But you're right undigested food definitely seems like it'd be a common thing

cloudpie said:
To be honest... I totally misread that corn -> food line as an implication at first and thought that was fine, lol. I guess an alias is fine too though.

I figure any specific case could be resolved by adding the food as its own tag (on a post). Is that anti-tagging? :P
Assuming the posting and tagging of this type of content picks up, we might end up with an awkward poop-specific version of the color tagging situation that no one with a weak stomach would want to touch. And I just.. really dread hypertagging. >.>

Updated to have all the food_scat aliases instead of implications. Moving onto part 2 very soon.

create implication skull_in_feces (18) -> disposal (1033)

This line is redundant due to skull_in_feces -> bones_in_feces and bones_in_feces -> disposal. It should be removed.

crocogator said:
This line is redundant due to skull_in_feces -> bones_in_feces and bones_in_feces -> disposal. It should be removed.

Ohh, I didn't realize that, thanks!

The bulk update request #6604 is active.

create implication ice_cream_feces (24) -> food_feces (96)
create implication chocolate_feces (0) -> food_feces (96)
create implication candy_feces (24) -> food_feces (96)
create implication food_feces (96) -> feces (20002)
create alias scat_golem (3) -> feces_creature (112)
create alias impending_feces (9) -> imminent_feces (148)
create alias grabbing_feces (2) -> holding_feces (81)
create implication holding_feces (81) -> touching_feces (94)
create alias face_shitting (3) -> pooping_on_face (37)

Reason: Part 1B: Lots of shit, lots of uncertainty

Opinions/Answers needed:

• Why aren't scatplay tags like eating_feces and smearing_feces implied to scat? Should this be done next?
• Should hypermess be unaliased from hyper_feces and instead aliased to hyper_messing or potentially hyper_soiling?

EDIT: The bulk update request #6604 (forum #391225) has failed: Error: A tag alias for poop_creature already exists (create alias scat_golem -> poop_creature)

EDIT: The bulk update request #6604 (forum #391225) has been approved by @spe.

I can't help with any of your questions unfortunately but just wanted to bring up the sleep_shitting tag i just found. Should be aliased to pooping_in_sleep right? And then imply pooping and sleeping

cloudpie said:
I can't help with any of your questions unfortunately but just wanted to bring up the sleep_shitting tag i just found. Should be aliased to pooping_in_sleep right? And then imply pooping and sleeping

It should be, so I'll add that and finish in part 2. Thanks ^^

catskill said:
The bulk update request #6604 is active.

create implication ice_cream_feces (24) -> food_feces (96)
create implication chocolate_feces (0) -> food_feces (96)
create implication candy_feces (24) -> food_feces (96)
create implication food_feces (96) -> feces (20002)
create alias scat_golem (3) -> feces_creature (112)
create alias impending_feces (9) -> imminent_feces (148)
create alias grabbing_feces (2) -> holding_feces (81)
create implication holding_feces (81) -> touching_feces (94)
create alias face_shitting (3) -> pooping_on_face (37)

Reason: Part 1B: Lots of shit, lots of uncertainty

Opinions/Answers needed:

• Should infinite_feces be aliased hyper_feces or excessive_feces?
• Why aren't scatplay tags like eating_feces and smearing_feces implied to scat? Should this be done next?
• Should hypermess be unaliased from hyper_feces and instead aliased to hyper_messing?

Infinite tags are used in gifs, see infinite_cum.

wolfmanfur said:
Infinite tags are used in gifs, see infinite_cum.

Ahh okay, lol. Makes sense..
Thanks~

The bulk update request #6555 (forum #390791) has failed: Error: food_in_feces already implies feces through another implication (create implication food_in_feces -> feces)

The bulk update request #6555 (forum #390791) has been approved by @spe.

The bulk update request #6604 (forum #391225) has failed: Error: A tag alias for poop_creature already exists (create alias scat_golem -> poop_creature)

The bulk update request #6604 (forum #391225) has been approved by @spe.

I removed:
implicate bones_in_feces -> disposal implicate fur_in_feces -> disposal
mostly because I'm not sure these are always going to be correct. These could exist in a non-vore-related image, or could be added after the fact for some reason. I'm sure the implication would be accurate *most* of the time, at least on a site like this, but implications need to be true 100% of the time and I don't think these technically can be.