Topic: [APPROVED] Fashion style BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #6386 is active.

create implication emo (2349) -> alternative_fashion (33103)
create implication goth (12650) -> alternative_fashion (33103)
create implication cybergoth (114) -> goth (12650)
create implication pastel_goth (165) -> goth (12650)
create implication trad_goth (175) -> goth (12650)
create implication mall_goth (229) -> goth (12650)
create implication punk (5333) -> alternative_fashion (33103)
create implication grunge_(fashion) (100) -> alternative_fashion (33103)
create implication hippie (264) -> alternative_fashion (33103)
create implication steampunk (892) -> alternative_fashion (33103)
create implication rockabilly (169) -> alternative_fashion (33103)
create implication greaser (100) -> alternative_fashion (33103)
create implication j-fashion (9585) -> alternative_fashion (33103)
create implication ouji_(fashion) (765) -> j-fashion (9585)
create implication decora_(fashion) (242) -> j-fashion (9585)
create implication gyaru (2438) -> j-fashion (9585)
create implication lolita_(fashion) (3903) -> j-fashion (9585)
create implication fairy_kei (259) -> j-fashion (9585)
create implication visual_kei (133) -> j-fashion (9585)
create implication jirai_kei (336) -> j-fashion (9585)
create implication menhera (185) -> j-fashion (9585)
create implication gurokawa (102) -> j-fashion (9585)
create implication cyberpop (888) -> j-fashion (9585)

Reason: Currently we don't have umbrella tags that allow for easy searching of all alternative fashion styles or j-fashion styles, which this BUR aims to remedy.

Additionally, there is a gap right now that leads to imprecise tagging on characters wearing fashion that is vaguely inspired by several specific styles but not really fitting into any of those styles (these are usually tagged with multiple styles which makes the tags a mess), which umbrella tags would help.

EDIT: The bulk update request #6386 (forum #389178) has been approved by @slyroon.

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The bulk update request #6388 is active.

create implication sweet_lolita (496) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication cosplay_lolita (219) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication ero_lolita (346) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication classic_lolita (397) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication hime_lolita (293) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication country_lolita (141) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication shiro_lolita (135) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication wa_lolita (80) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication kuro_lolita (102) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication pirate_lolita (34) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication steampunk_lolita (75) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication sailor_lolita (66) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication qi_lolita (29) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication deco_lolita (31) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication guro_lolita (30) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication punk_lolita (25) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication nurse_lolita (38) -> lolita_(fashion) (3903)
create implication ganguro_(fashion) (622) -> gyaru (2438)
create implication kogal (386) -> gyaru (2438)
create implication manba_(fashion) (68) -> ganguro_(fashion) (622)
create implication onee_gyaru (178) -> gyaru (2438)
create implication tsuyome (140) -> gyaru (2438)
create implication rock_gyaru (127) -> gyaru (2438)
create implication hime_gyaru (36) -> gyaru (2438)
create implication amekaji (322) -> gyaru (2438)

Reason: While I'm at it, these should imply lolita like gothic lolita does, since they're substyles of lolita.

Edit - added a couple gyaru substyles too

EDIT: The bulk update request #6388 (forum #389187) has been approved by @slyroon.

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The bulk update request #6390 is active.

create implication cosplay_lolita (219) -> cosplay (21070)
create implication wa_lolita (80) -> japanese_clothing (24921)
create implication qi_lolita (29) -> chinese_clothing (3127)
create implication steampunk_lolita (75) -> steampunk (892)
create implication deco_lolita (31) -> decora_(fashion) (242)
create implication punk_lolita (25) -> punk (5333)
create implication nurse_lolita (38) -> nurse_clothing (3700)

Reason: I derped with the last one and somehow overlooked these implications? Anyways, fusion styles, should imply the other styles the way gothic lolita implies goth.

EDIT: The bulk update request #6390 (forum #389212) has been approved by @slyroon.

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The bulk update request #6391 is active.

create alias goths (1) -> goth (12650)
create alias goth_clothing (2) -> goth (12650)
create alias gothic_attire (2) -> goth (12650)
create alias goth_girl (1) -> goth (12650)
create alias emo_girl (0) -> emo (2349)
create alias emo_boy (0) -> emo (2349)
create alias cybergothic (0) -> cybergoth (114)
create alias punk_girl (2) -> punk (5333)

Reason: Aaand finally, some aliases...

Also, should steampunk be added to the BUR to imply alternative fashion? I did only see two zero_pictured uses so it seems to mostly be being used for steampunk as a style?

Edit: Oh god, what's the scenecore transitive?? Found it, topic #39323 - I'd ideally just reject these, "scenecore" is a TikTok neologism for an established style and "scene kid" has been used since the 2000s, it's the established singular noun for someone who wears scene style. It's mentioned as such on the Wikipedia page.

EDIT: The bulk update request #6391 (forum #389213) has been approved by @slyroon.

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I added steampunk and hippie to the original BUR as Wikipedia classifies them as alternative fashions. I also added a j-fashion -> alternative fashion implication because Wikipedia also includes most j-fashion styles on their list of alternative fashions.

If anyone disagrees, please let me know, though!

Added rockabilly to the original BUR because of course there's one that I missed that was floating around.

I'm still a little unsure about steampunk. But after looking through steampunk -clothing and still not seeing much that isn't referring to the fashion style (even on nude posts, since in this context accessories and such can be part of the style), I'm a little less worried? But there are still a small handful of posts that are just referring to the genre.

Working on cleaning up goth at the moment and it really is the perfect example of why we need an alternative fashion umbrella tag. Because right now it's a jumbled mess of actual goths, mistagged punks and emos, characters that just happen to be wearing black, characters that just have black hair and/or makeup, characters wearing vague undefined alternative fashion...

And as mentioned in the initial post, there's still a rampant trend of people tagging up to 3 or 4 different styles (that aren't substyles of the same style) on the same image for the same character, usually with either only one actually fitting or none of them fitting. ๐Ÿ˜”

dsco said:
Edit: Oh god, what's the scenecore transitive?? Found it, topic #39323 - I'd ideally just reject these, "scenecore" is a TikTok neologism for an established style and "scene kid" has been used since the 2000s, it's the established singular noun for someone who wears scene style. It's mentioned as such on the Wikipedia page.

I think aliasing everything to scene_(subculture) (or maybe scene_(fashion)?) makes more sense, as Cloudpie and Watsit said in the other thread.

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pleaseletmein said:
I think aliasing everything to scene_(subculture) (or maybe scene_(fashion)?) makes more sense, as Cloudpie and Watsit said in the other thread.

I'm not against that either, hold on, I'll edit the BUR to go in that direction. My only gripe is the wiki pages I'll have to edit, lol

The bulk update request #6493 has been rejected.

create alias scene_kid (0) -> scene_(fashion) (1581)
create alias scenecore (0) -> scene_(fashion) (1581)
create alias scene_girl (0) -> scene_(fashion) (1581)
create alias scene_boy (1) -> scene_(fashion) (1581)
create implication scene_(fashion) (1581) -> alternative_fashion (33103)

Reason: Actually, instead, let me do this, so it's all in one place. There are still transitives but it's just the BUR from the other thread.

EDIT: The bulk update request #6493 (forum #390334) has been rejected by @dsco.

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Just a bump to draw attention to the last BUR (to update the scene tag)

I also did a little more research into goth substyles and changed cybergoth and pastel_goth to actually imply goth now, along with adding tags for trad_goth and mall_goth. I can't think of anything else I'm missing.

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