I tried accessing VCL and can't get in? Is VCL finally dead?
Does anyone have a mirror or scrape?
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I tried accessing VCL and can't get in? Is VCL finally dead?
Does anyone have a mirror or scrape?
I have parts of it but... a lot of that stuff is not applicable to e621. i.e. Quality standards now are stricter, artists often DNP, etc.
I tried to mirror what I could on archive.org but yeah, I think it finally went to long sleep. :(
googlipod said:
I tried accessing VCL and can't get in? Is VCL finally dead?Does anyone have a mirror or scrape?
Dang, that is kind of a shame. It was a treasure trove of older art from the 90s/early 2000s. Have you tried the wayback machine or archive.today?
I can't believe VCL is really gone. That place was such a huge part of my joining the furry fandom. I remember checking the new uploads every day, cheering if I saw work by my favorite artists.
Seeing Amanda Payne's artwork was practically a religious experience for me. I'm glad I saved what I could, but I really thought I had more time.
Wayback Machine rarely saves art unless its under a certain file size and their thoroughness leaves much to be desired. A lot of stuff is just plain gone.
I'm really not sure how to process this.
thirtyeight said:
I can't believe VCL is really gone. That place was such a huge part of my joining the furry fandom. I remember checking the new uploads every day, cheering if I saw work by my favorite artists.
Seeing Amanda Payne's artwork was practically a religious experience for me. I'm glad I saved what I could, but I really thought I had more time.Wayback Machine rarely saves art unless its under a certain file size and their thoroughness leaves much to be desired. A lot of stuff is just plain gone.
I'm really not sure how to process this.
Start grabbing what you can then while it's still here then
https://archive.ph/http://us.vclart.net/vcl/
if i remember correctly, vcl is periodically online overtime. once a time, it was offline and then got back, but we don't know if it's going to be active again or the domain is permanently expired
it's for the best crossed fingers that it gets active again or find the answers by contacting the owner of vcl if he's still online or alive. i just started to collect few artwork not a long ago, and exploring with archives is tedious process
Oh wow... o.o RIP a part of the furry web history right there...
Aint VCL a clunky to use site though ? Atleast what i found on the archive.org waybackmachine was very clunky to use, like a ftp page that you had to click through like folders on your pc rather than a easily navigatable gallery like e6, fa and r34, but maybe im just biased for using e6 and such for a long time.
what is a VCL
thirtyeight said:
Wayback Machine rarely saves art unless its under a certain file size and their thoroughness leaves much to be desired. A lot of stuff is just plain gone.
I'm really not sure how to process this.
Try archive.today and ghostarchive.
strikerman said:
what is a VCL
lazyoldmutt said:
Aint VCL a clunky to use site though ? Atleast what i found on the archive.org waybackmachine was very clunky to use, like a ftp page that you had to click through like folders on your pc rather than a easily navigatable gallery like e6, fa and r34, but maybe im just biased for using e6 and such for a long time.
What you're referring to is a "directory view" and it's beautiful. *cries*
Seriously though, it had one main benefit: It was more organized when trying to archive it than 90% of sites out there. It's probably a feature not a bug that navigation on popular websites is often ass.
thirtyeight said:
Wayback Machine rarely saves art unless its under a certain file size and their thoroughness leaves much to be desired. A lot of stuff is just plain gone.
I'm really not sure how to process this.
i feel like the site is partially-to-fully archived by archive.org. i can go to more obscure directories and has each artwork archived 4 times, probably helped by one dedicated hero or anybody using software to put every page to archive.org.
there is far less dedication to perserve deviantart pages for so how many of them and so many artifacts are gone for good because personal reasons or fearmongered by eclipse and ai, which sucks. fa has secret onion site that holds every piece, even deleted which less to be sad for.
wolfmanfur said:
Try archive.today and ghostarchive.
two of them are only able to save one page and no tools to mass-save thousands of pages, barely saved there. it’s just better for sites that are prohibited by archive.org or few web 2.0 sites that archive.org is hard to view.
lazyoldmutt said:
Aint VCL a clunky to use site though ? Atleast what i found on the archive.org waybackmachine was very clunky to use, like a ftp page that you had to click through like folders on your pc rather than a easily navigatable gallery like e6, fa and r34, but maybe im just biased for using e6 and such for a long time.
Oh it absolutely is, by today's standards. It's just a part of furry web history though, y'know? It was originally created back in 1995, and was the first large-scale furry art site that many folks, myself included, ever encountered. I don't think it'll be missed for any practical reasons, by most anyway, just sentimental ones.
-edit-
Well, I take it back, obviously archival is kind of a combination of practical and sentimental reasoning. So there is that.
http://https://vixencontrolled.net/
Probably not complete, but it's got a lot of stuff there.
carbonfuton said:
http://https://vixencontrolled.net/
Probably not complete, but it's got a lot of stuff there.
Think you got an extra http in that link.
leotheairwolf said:
Think you got an extra http in that link.
Between this and Furarchiver, I don't know why these types of sites never bother to try preserving the descriptions as well.
errorist said:
Between this and Furarchiver, I don't know why these types of sites never bother to try preserving the descriptions as well.
It's a visual focused archive, I was a bit guilty of that, today I try to save descriptions of images too.
Avoid Vixen Controlled Archive, they have converted and compressed all the art
Luckily, someone made a siterip of VCL and posted it as a torrent:
https://btdig.com/0fc1705a851837fdc273604e902d192b762be15e
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0fc1705a851837fdc273604e902d192b762be15e&dn=vcl_rip&tr=udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80&tr=udp://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce