Aliasing hands_on_breasts → hand_on_breasts
Link to alias

Reason:

Edit: hands_on_breasts, hand_on_breasts -> hand_on_breast would probably work better now that I think about it.

• hands_on_head -> hand_on_head
• hands_behind_head -> hand_behind_head
• hands_on_hips -> hand_on_hip
• hand_drawn -> traditional_media_(artwork) (or just move them)

Approved: hands_on_breasts, hand_on_breasts to --> hand_on_breast. And hands_on_head to --> hand_on_head. And hand_drawn to --> traditional_media_(artwork).

But I'm less sure about the hands_on_hips/hand_on_hip and the hands_behind_head/hand_behind_head because it looks like it's caught between two meanings. There's the "hand is touching body part" meaning, and then there's the distinct pose which happens to include touching that body part. If we want to keep the hands-on-hips pose separate from the grabbing-someone's-hips-during-penetration meanings, then the difference between the hand_on_hip pose and the hands_on_hip pose is significant and is two different poses. Both of these poses are common, recognizable and distinctive. But if we don't want to keep a separate tag for the pose itself, then this alias makes sense to consolidate. The same situation goes for the hand/s_behind_head tags. Are they for that distinct pose? Or are they for just any time a hand is touching there?

Though if we don't want to use it for tagging the pose, then any distinction between hand/s_behind_head and hand_on_head becomes somewhat redundant. Tagging that pose was the main thing that made it distinct from just touching someone's head. And the same goes for hand/s_on_hip/s: without being for tagging those poses, any distinction between hand/s_on_hip/s vs hip_grab would become redundant. Which makes me think, it might be better to clarify the uses of hands_behind_head, hand_behind_head, hands_on_hips and hand_on_hip to be for the poses only. And then cleanup the other uses into the other existing tags like hips_grab, hand_on_head, head_grab, etc depending on the image.

Thoughts?

Yeah, those are specific poses; and part of the tag_group:pose.
Shouldn't be aliased, and I'm not sure if we should implicate them either. Since hands_behind_head and hand_behind_head are two distinct poses. (Perhaps hands_behind_head could be implicated to pose, though.)

The wiki entry for hands_on_hips needs clarification. It currently uses these as example thumbnails:
post #430949 post #426012

But the second one fits better under torso_grab (or hip_grab, if there's any need to differentiate those). Hands on hips should probably only be tagged for the poses where character has their hands on their own hips (first thumbnail).

Genjar said:
Yeah, those are specific poses; and part of the tag_group:pose.
Shouldn't be aliased, and I'm not sure if we should implicate them either. Since hands_behind_head and hand_behind_head are two distinct poses. (Perhaps hands_behind_head could be implicated to pose, though.)

The wiki entry for hands_on_hips needs clarification. It currently uses these as example thumbnails:
post #430949 post #426012

But the second one fits better under torso_grab (or hip_grab, if there's any need to differentiate those). Hands on hips should probably only be tagged for the poses where character has their hands on their own hips (first thumbnail).

Yeah, it's a bit like hair_over_eye and hair_over_eyes, in that they are distinctly different so implicating them to each other wouldn't really be helpful. I'd agree with that assessment. But clarifying all four of these tags in their wikis (hand_on_hip, hands_on_hips, hand_behind_head, hands_behind_head), cleaning them up so that they're just for that pose, and then implicating them all to --> pose could work. And I think that would be a good plan if people are ok with that.

On a slightly related note: We have a hip_grab tag. Should it be kept as a tag, or should it be aliased to --> torso_grab? I know that grabs in that area can get a little grey, but generally if it's not a butt_grab grabbing the sides of the buttcheeks, then it tends to be around the area were waist and hip meet, so trying to distinguish which are "torso" and which are "waist" and which are "hips" grabbing seems impractical. Looking through hip_grab seems to bear this out, with them being either better tagged as butt_grab, but mostly torso_grab. And we also have waist_grab which I think could be aliased to --> torso_grab as just being redundant. But I wanted to hear people's thoughts on it, in case I'm missing something before doing anything to them. There may be a way to use it that I'm not thinking of.

Definite yes to aliasing waist_grab to torso_grab.
Tentative yes to aliasing hip_grab to torso_grab: Those aren't tagged with much consistency, and most end up under torso_grab anyway. Sorting them would take a lot of work, and I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble.

By the way, hands_on_hips was tagged with >95% consistency, so I just went ahead and cleaned it a bit. And from what I can see, it definitely can be implicated to pose. It seems impossible to hold hands to your hips without striking a pose, or at least nobody's managed to draw that yet..

Edit: hand_on_hip, on the other hand, isn't quite as clear. There's some images where the character is simply resting one hand on their side while doing something else with the other one.