Topic: Tag Implication: siberian_husky -> husky

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Wouldn't it be better if it was an alias? I really don't see a difference between the two from looking at it as TWYS point of view

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Genjar

Former Staff

Maybe? I'm no expert on huskies, so I assumed that there would be some visible difference. If not, then by all means, it should be aliased instead.

I was kinda wary about suggesting this anyway, since that'd lead to five species tags for a single species: siberian_husky -> husky -> dog -> canine -> mammal.

Updated by anonymous

Aren't they the same thing anyways? Siberian is just their origin, if i'm not mistaken. If so, it really should be aliased since I wouldn't ever think of adding siberian in my husky search.

Updated by anonymous

This is actually a rather complex question.
The Siberian Husky is an AKC recognized breed of dog.
The Husky is simply defined as the fastest breed of sled dogs, and can, and is, bred with other breeds to accomplish this result.
It's the same general blood line, but then all dogs are descended from wolves, so it really is just a matter of deciding where to draw the line.

That being said, if we alias them together, then you'd have to alias malamute as well, since they're just as close to a Husky as Siberian Huskies are.
You'd also have to alias together all of the Japanese dog breeds since they're similarly related.

Frankly, I'd say the best solution is to get rid of Husky as a tag altogether since it isn't a specific breed, but is rather a general group.
We don't tag all of the dogs that I've mentioned here as Spitz, but they're all spitz type dog breeds, along with 3 other types of Husky, most of the dogs from Asia, and of course, the Queen's dog, the Welsh Corgi.

It comes down to functionality, and frankly we don't functionally need a husky tag.

Edit: I now know more about huskies that I really needed to.
Thanks wikipedia.

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Halite said:
Edit: I now know more about huskies that I really needed to.
Thanks wikipedia.

Lies. We all now know your little secret Haltie, that you're actually a registered husky breeder, and that's how you know all of this informafion. We also know you take your dogs to shows too. We'll be watching when you make it to Westminster, we'll be watching...

Edit: Got carried away with my joke and forgot to make a point. I'd say that your idea might be a bit too knowledge reliant. The common browser is not going to come looking for Siberian huskies, or malamutes, they're going to come looking for huskies. If we get rid of that tag, it will oroba my cause some confusion.

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Tokaido said:
Lies. We all now know your little secret Haltie, that you're actually a registered husky breeder, and that's how you know all of this informafion. We also know you take your dogs to shows too. We'll be watching when you make it to Westminster, we'll be watching...

Edit: Got carried away with my joke and forgot to make a point. I'd say that your idea might be a bit too knowledge reliant. The common browser is not going to come looking for Siberian huskies, or malamutes, they're going to come looking for huskies. If we get rid of that tag, it will oroba my cause some confusion.

Well it doesn't get rid of the tag, you'd just get siberian husky when you search for husky.

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Halite said:
Well it doesn't get rid of the tag, you'd just get siberian husky when you search for husky.

But not all huskies are siberian huskies :p

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TheHuskyK9 said:
But not all huskies are siberian huskies :p

Absolutely true, but then, not all huskies look like what we tag as "husky".
My assumption is that if you're searching "husky" then you're looking for the ones that look like a siberian husky.

If you're going with the generic umbrella term of husky then they're not really discernible from 99% of other spitz breeds, and we should just label them as that.

Updated by anonymous

Again, you're completely technically right, but I don't think its a necessary or helpful change.

If you google image search 'husky' (I would provide a link, but I'm on my iPad and it refuses to give me a proper url for some reason. Go apple) you get the commonly accepted definition of husky, which almost anyone can agree on.

As defined simply by looking at said google page this would be the layman's definition of a husky

it's the slightly stocky breed with the size, face, fur, and tail we all know, but the real deciding factor is the coat pattern. Huskies, as defined by our culture, have a dual tone coat, with a darker tone being on top along the back, and white along the belly. The darker tone can be anywhere between black, gray, brown, and tan. There's usually a definitive line between the two tones in most places, but it can fade gradually between the two in other spots. The muzzle itself is almost always white, and there are almost always more intricate patterns on the face around the eyes, including white 'eyebrows.' The tail tip is also usually capped with white.

If they don't meet this criteria, then it should be labeled as its breed, whatever seems most fitting. Shiba's are obviously different, as are Corgi's, but other breeds prove hard to discern. But if it's hard to figure out what it is, it's probably not a husky and will need to be researched if the source doesn't give a good (and believable) species to tag. Personally, I think we should just leave it as this, since it's easily understood and commonly accepted, even if it's not technically correct.

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