Topic: Multiple Changes

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Tag Implication Removal: fox -> canine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox
They may be canids, but the list of genera that foxes are in do not list canis (The actual canines) as one of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canidae

Tag Implication: lucario -> jackal

Because that's what they're based off of. (I presume this would also apply to Riolu.)

New Tag + Implications: raccoon, kinkajou, olinguito -> procyonid

This one's really just a suggestion, I just think there's enough procyonid species on here to warrant this. (So, same reason why there's a canine tag)

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ShylokVakarian said:
Tag Implication Removal: fox -> canine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox
They may be canids, but the list of genera that foxes are in do not list canis (The actual canines) as one of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canidae

Canid/canine/canidae names are all simplified to canine on purpose. We aren't trying to be biologically accurate, just trying to make tagging easier. Basically canine is used in pretty much the same way that "canidae" is, with the benefit of being easier to spell and a generally more well-known term.

It's the same reason we imply cat, lion, cheetah, etc. to feline and not felidae; for simplicity.

Tag Implication: lucario -> jackal

Because that's what they're based off of. (I presume this would also apply to Riolu.)

In the past it was, but we don't implicate any pokemon to species tags anymore because it has been found that it causes issues with tagging. You can draw other species to look enough like lucario without it actually looking like a jackal, and most of the pokemon tags have this issue.

New Tag + Implications: raccoon, kinkajou, olinguito -> procyonid

This one's really just a suggestion, I just think there's enough procyonid species on here to warrant this. (So, same reason why there's a canine tag)

I'm not sure about this one yet. The procyonid tag would end up being over 99% raccoon with a couple not-raccoons thrown in. It may be more technically correct but it doesn't really add much to searching tbh.

In contrast with the canine tag, there are hundreds of dog/wolf/fox breeds and species to justify having the tag. It's actually the 2nd most used species tag.

Updated by anonymous

Every time I try to say a thing, Parasprite beats me to it. Darn you! *shakes fist* I'll beat you to it next time! (No, I probably won't XD)

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Tokaido said:
Every time I try to say a thing, Parasprite beats me to it. Darn you! *shakes fist* I'll beat you to it next time! (No, I probably won't XD)

Try to beat them now. :P

Canid/canine/canidae names are all simplified to canine on purpose. We aren't trying to be biologically accurate, just trying to make tagging easier. Basically canine is used in pretty much the same way that "canidae" is, with the benefit of being easier to spell and a generally more well-known term.

It's the same reason we imply cat, lion, cheetah, etc. to feline and not felidae; for simplicity.

True. Guess I'm a little bit too OCD there.

In the past it was, but we don't implicate any pokemon to species tags anymore because it has been found that it causes issues with tagging. You can draw other species to look enough like lucario without it actually looking like a jackal, and most of the pokemon tags have this issue.

True, but AFAIK, there's no way to draw Charizard so that it DOESN'T look draconic. Feel free to correct me on that one.

I'm not sure about this one yet. The procyonid tag would end up being over 99% raccoon with a couple not-raccoons thrown in. It may be more technically correct but it doesn't really add much to searching tbh.

In contrast with the canine tag, there are hundreds of dog/wolf/fox breeds and species to justify having the tag. It's actually the 2nd most used species tag.

True once more. Not really sure why I brought it up and expected it to be met without much opposition. As I said, merely a suggestion.

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ShylokVakarian said:
True, but AFAIK, there's no way to draw Charizard so that it DOESN'T look draconic. Feel free to correct me on that one.

Pokemon are species on their own, as a matter of fact, it has been denied constantly to change pokemon to animal species. That is because they are characters in fashion, with very specific aspect and patterns. but since the names are in fact, threated as species either canon and fan. it is threated that way.

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NoctemWerewolf said:

Pokemon are species on their own, as a matter of fact, it has been denied constantly to change pokemon to animal species. That is because they are characters in fashion, with very specific aspect and patterns. but since the names are in fact, threated as species either canon and fan. it is threated that way.

I wasn't saying they aren't species of their own. I'm well aware that they are. All I'm saying is that except for anthropomorphizing Charizard, there's no way to make him NOT look LIKE a dragon. Unless they just suck at art, like me. :P

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ShylokVakarian said:
New Tag + Implications: raccoon, kinkajou, olinguito -> procyonid

This one's really just a suggestion, I just think there's enough procyonid species on here to warrant this. (So, same reason why there's a canine tag)

I recommend procyon instead, for the same reason we use canine and feline instead of canid and felid.

Species to imply to procyon:

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ShylokVakarian said:
except for anthropomorphizing Charizard

Unless they just suck at art

Unfortunately we get some of these from time to time. ;)

The problem with pokémon here is that the color scheme (and certain characteristics) are almost more important than the shape itself. You can easily have something that looks like a particular pokémon but isn't based off of a similar species.

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