There are a a lot of uniform-related tags

Should they be implied to uniform (or at least the most popular ones)? I'm surprised the lack of implications to this tag. Haven't suggested them individually yet.

Of course maid is #1. *Sigh*

and yes

do it

There's also *_costume and *_outfit, which really need to be condensed since they serve mostly the same overlapping purpose. If we were to stick with one though...well I'm not sure which.

parasprite said:
There's also *_costume and *_outfit, which really need to be condensed since they serve mostly the same overlapping purpose. If we were to stick with one though...well I'm not sure which.

There is a difference though, but it's not always apparent... if it's a kid wearing firefighter's gear, for instance, it's probably not a uniform

as for outfit... that does seem to be pretty much the same thing most of the time

parasprite said:
There's also *_costume and *_outfit, which really need to be condensed since they serve mostly the same overlapping purpose. If we were to stick with one though...well I'm not sure which.

I've thought about this a couple of times.

To me it seems to me that although outfit would kind of be the best umbrella tag for them all, any set of any clothes can be refered to as an outfit, which would end up conflicting with other standard clothing tags.

As such I think that costume or uniform would be the ones we need to choose between, and between them I think costume is the best middle ground.

Implicating maid_uniform → uniform
Link to implication

Implicating school_uniform → uniform
Link to implication

schoolgirl_uniform implies school_uniform so there is no need for implication

Implicating nurse_uniform → uniform
Link to implication

Implicating military_uniform → uniform
Link to implication

Implicating police_uniform → uniform
Link to implication

just suggested some tags before checking your replies. So I'll stop here for now.

Do maid- and nurse 'uniforms' really fit under that tag? I'm not sure if that's what the users who search for uniform are looking for.

(When I think of uniform, it's ones like military and police uniforms..)

Genjar said:
Do maid- and nurse 'uniforms' really fit under that tag? I'm not sure if that's what the users who search for uniform are looking for.

(When I think of uniform, it's ones like military and police uniforms..)

Nurse probably, maid no.

For tagging purposes I personally feel like all of these would be better of dumped into *_outfit, but that's just me.

Genjar said:
Do maid- and nurse 'uniforms' really fit under that tag? I'm not sure if that's what the users who search for uniform are looking for.

(When I think of uniform, it's ones like military and police uniforms..)

Any kind of standardized dress used for identification is a uniform, from military battledress to doctors' garb

Standardizing this set of tags is a good idea, and very much needed. However, I don't see any reason to distinguish (and sometimes it's impossible to differentiate) between someone who's wearing nurse, firefighter, maid, policeman, doctors etc clothing for their job as an actual uniform vs for roleplaying or for Halloween, or just-because-the-artist-likes-to-draw-that. The purpose of why they're wearing it is a little outside of the scope of tagging. It matters more than when it's a recognizable reference to it, it gets tagged so that people can find it.

So, I think turning them all into *_costume might be the best option.

*_outfit is unfortunately too broad and commonly gets used for any set of clothes. It could be an american thing, but I know it's quite common to use "outfit" to describe any set of clothes that was deliberately put together because they thought it would look good. And I know I've seen it tagged that way, and had to clear out a few tags which used the term this way. So making it a suffix makes me envision a type of tagging nightmare I would rather avoid if possible.

*_uniform runs into the problems of having connotations of being Official, which is inappropriate for images where it's clearly being worn for extracurricular activities, kinky purposes, ambiguous purposes, dressing up purposes, costume party, etc. Since we don't always know if it's being worn as a uniform, having *_uniform as the tag for it is going to feel inadequate and misleading sometimes.

furrypickle said:
*_uniform runs into the problems of having connotations of being Official, which is inappropriate for images where it's clearly being worn for extracurricular activities, kinky purposes, ambiguous purposes, dressing up purposes, costume party, etc. Since we don't always know if it's being worn as a uniform, having *_uniform as the tag for it is going to feel inadequate and misleading sometimes.

I personally don't think there's a problem with those being referred to as uniforms.

Durandal said:
I personally don't think there's a problem with those being referred to as uniforms.

All I know is I once saw an argument in the comments about it involving a policeman's costume being tagged as a "uniform", so I'm assuming it's a touchy subject to some people. I can kind of see the point, though personally I'd be fine with either. I just think *_costume sidesteps that, and is at the same time also slightly broader in meaning to include instances where "uniform" might be a stretch (like clown_uniform? lol). Of the three options, *_outfit is the only one I'm fairly sure is a no-go though. Either of the other two, I could go for. Though ideally, one suffix for all of these types of things would be nice for wildcarding and organization.

furrypickle said:
All I know is I once saw an argument in the comments about it involving a policeman's costume being tagged as a "uniform", so I'm assuming it's a touchy subject to some people. I can kind of see the point, though personally I'd be fine with either. I just think *_costume sidesteps that, and is at the same time also slightly broader in meaning to include instances where "uniform" might be a stretch (like clown_uniform? lol). Of the three options, *_outfit is the only one I'm fairly sure is a no-go though. Either of the other two, I could go for. Though ideally, one suffix for all of these types of things would be nice.

Well... to be honest, I think outfit might be the best solution if they must be standardized. I'd imagine someone might get upset if they saw a legitimate military uniform tagged as a "Costume." Maybe I'm overthinking it, but...

Not to throw a wrench into the discussion, but is there sufficient reason to keep both nurse and nurse_costume, clown and clown_costume, police and police_costume, etc.?

(I'm not necessarily suggesting we should do this, but if an alias was chosen I think police -> police_costume, etc. would be better than the reverse to allow for wildcard searches)

parasprite said:
Not to throw a wrench into the discussion, but is there sufficient reason to keep both nurse and nurse_costume, clown and clown_costume, police and police_costume, etc.?

(I'm not necessarily suggesting we should do this, but if an alias was chosen I think police -> police_costume, etc. would be better than the reverse to allow for wildcard searches)

For most of them I'd agree, but not for police. I wouldn't tag these

post #277700 post #252733 post #105363 post #279751

with police_costume

blackest_vulture said:
For most of them I'd agree, but not for police. I wouldn't tag these

post #277700 post #252733 post #105363 post #279751

with police_costume

First three are just police_cap (which should imply cap), that fourth one is just police_badge.

blackest_vulture said:
For most of them I'd agree, but not for police. I wouldn't tag these

post #277700 post #252733 post #105363 post #279751

with police_costume

Not sure about the fourth one, but I think other three warrant some kind of police tag. Not just police_cap.