The bulk update request #2728 is active.

Reason: Looks like the é is here to stay. Despite being a Unicode character, it was necessary to open an exception for it because the servers would need downtime in order to remove it from all tags. Thanks, Pokémon!

Before any of this is approved, I ask the Pokéxperts of the forum to look for untranslated Japanese names. They should be aliased to the English version. I am not familiar enough with the franchise to identify them myself.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2728 (forum #338760) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2742 (forum #) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2741 (forum #) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.

The bulk update request #2729 is active.

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2729 (forum #338761) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2730 is active.

create alias bill_(pokémon) (0) -> bill_(pokemon) (11)
create alias georgia_(pokémon) (0) -> georgia_(pokemon) (7)
create alias margo_(pokémon) (0) -> margo_(pokemon) (6)
create alias jimmy_(pokémon) (0) -> jimmy_(pokemon) (1)
create alias aaron_(pokémon) (0) -> aaron_(pokemon) (5)
create alias palina_(pokémon) (0) -> palina_(pokemon) (8)
create alias domino_(pokémon) (0) -> domino_(pokemon) (5)
create alias giselle_(pokémon) (0) -> giselle_(pokemon) (5)
create alias wikstrom_(pokémon) (0) -> wikstrom_(pokemon) (3)
create alias black_belt_(pokémon) (0) -> black_belt_(pokemon) (5)
create alias gentleman_(pokémon) (0) -> gentleman_(pokemon) (6)
create alias sailor_(pokémon) (0) -> sailor_(pokemon) (5)
create alias honey_(pokémon) (0) -> honey_(pokemon) (3)
create alias koko_(pokémon) (0) -> koko_(pokemon) (3)

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2730 (forum #338762) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2731 is active.

create alias cheryl_(pokémon) (0) -> cheryl_(pokemon) (7)
create alias tierno_(pokémon) (0) -> tierno_(pokemon) (6)
create alias mai_(pokémon) (0) -> mai_(pokemon) (11)
create alias mimo_(pokémon) (0) -> mimo_(pokemon) (1)
create alias flint_(pokémon) (0) -> flint_(pokemon) (9)
create alias sightseer_(pokémon) (0) -> sightseer_(pokemon) (9)
create alias paul_(pokémon) (0) -> paul_(pokemon) (6)
create alias drake_(pokémon) (0) -> drake_(pokemon) (6)
create alias kahili_(pokémon) (0) -> kahili_(pokemon) (11)
create alias psychic_(pokémon) (0) -> psychic_(pokemon) (11)
create alias duplica_(pokémon) (0) -> duplica_(pokemon) (5)
create alias glacia_(pokémon) (0) -> glacia_(pokemon) (9)
create alias looker_(pokémon) (0) -> looker_(pokemon) (4)
create alias lizabeth_(pokémon) (0) -> lizabeth_(pokemon) (4)
create alias alice_(pokémon) (0) -> alice_(pokemon) (3)
create alias faba_(pokémon) (0) -> faba_(pokemon) (5)

Reason: Same as the above

Error: Antecedent name has already been taken (create alias bel_(pokemon) -> bel_(pokémon)) -> https://e621.net/forum_topics/25323

EDIT: The bulk update request #2731 (forum #338763) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2732 is active.

create alias fennel_(pokémon) (0) -> fennel_(pokemon) (6)
create alias agatha_(pokémon) (0) -> agatha_(pokemon) (6)
create alias will_(pokémon) (0) -> will_(pokemon) (6)
create alias stephan_(pokémon) (0) -> stephan_(pokemon) (3)
create alias peony_(pokémon) (0) -> peony_(pokemon) (7)
create alias lian_(pokémon) (0) -> lian_(pokemon) (3)
create alias drew_(pokémon) (0) -> drew_(pokemon) (1)
create alias bird_keeper_(pokémon) (0) -> bird_keeper_(pokemon) (8)
create alias alain_(pokémon) (0) -> alain_(pokemon) (3)
create alias annie_(pokémon) (0) -> annie_(pokemon) (2)
create alias casey_(pokémon) (0) -> casey_(pokemon) (2)
create alias ramos_(pokémon) (0) -> ramos_(pokemon) (15)
create alias dexio_(pokémon) (0) -> dexio_(pokemon) (2)
create alias kelly_(pokémon) (0) -> kelly_(pokemon) (1)
create alias zoey_(pokémon) (0) -> zoey_(pokemon) (6)

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2732 (forum #338764) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2733 is active.

create alias taylor_(pokémon) (0) -> taylor_(pokemon) (2)
create alias fisherman_(pokémon) (0) -> fisherman_(pokemon) (5)
create alias camper_(pokémon) (0) -> camper_(pokemon) (3)
create alias super_nerd_(pokémon) (0) -> super_nerd_(pokemon) (4)
create alias bryony_(pokémon) (0) -> bryony_(pokemon) (3)
create alias celosia_(pokémon) (0) -> celosia_(pokemon) (3)
create alias punk_guy_(pokémon) (0) -> punk_guy_(pokemon) (6)
create alias lucian_(pokémon) (0) -> lucian_(pokemon) (4)
create alias amber_(pokémon) (0) -> amber_(pokemon) (1)
create alias trevor_(pokémon) (0) -> trevor_(pokemon) (3)
create alias idol_(pokémon) (0) -> idol_(pokemon) (1)

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2733 (forum #338765) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2734 is active.

create alias alexa_(pokémon) (0) -> alexa_(pokemon) (3)
create alias mindy_(pokémon) (0) -> mindy_(pokemon) (4)
create alias gaspar_(pokémon) (0) -> gaspar_(pokemon) (4)
create alias rider_(pokémon) (0) -> rider_(pokemon) (2)
create alias chuchu_(pokémon) (0) -> chuchu_(pokemon) (3)
create alias venus_(pokémon) (0) -> venus_(pokemon) (4)
create alias peonia_(pokémon) (0) -> peonia_(pokemon) (2)
create alias diana_(pokémon) (0) -> diana_(pokemon) (2)
create alias dancer_(pokémon) (0) -> dancer_(pokemon) (5)
create alias sidney_(pokémon) (0) -> sidney_(pokemon) (5)
create alias teacher_(pokémon) (0) -> teacher_(pokemon) (2)
create alias buck_(pokémon) (0) -> buck_(pokemon) (2)
create alias kenny_(pokémon) (0) -> kenny_(pokemon) (0)
create alias worker_(pokémon) (0) -> worker_(pokemon) (2)

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2734 (forum #338766) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2735 is active.

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2735 (forum #338767) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2736 is active.

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2736 (forum #338768) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2737 is active.

create alias infi_(pokémon) (0) -> infi_(pokemon) (1)
create alias zero_(pokémon) (0) -> zero_(pokemon) (1)
create alias cissy_(pokémon) (0) -> cissy_(pokemon) (1)
create alias sashay_(pokémon) (0) -> sashay_(pokemon) (2)
create alias ruby_(pokémon) (0) -> brendan_(pokemon) (302)
create alias ruby_(pokemon) (0) -> brendan_(pokemon) (302)

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2737 (forum #338769) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2738 has been rejected.

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2738 (forum #338770) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.

The bulk update request #2739 is active.

create alias aria_(pokémon) (0) -> aria_(pokemon) (4)
create alias mint_(pokémon) (0) -> mint_(pokemon) (1)
create alias mustard_(pokémon) (0) -> mustard_(pokemon) (3)
create alias peeko_(pokémon) (0) -> peeko_(pokemon) (3)

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2739 (forum #338771) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2740 is active.

Reason: Same as the above

EDIT: The bulk update request #2740 (forum #338772) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

How many of these are actually valid characters? Some of these seem to be the Japanese name that should be aliased to their English names (e.g. musashi_(pokemon) -> jessie_(team_rocket), kojirou_(pokemon) -> james_(team_rocket)), and some of them seem to be the name of characters that have fuller names (e.g. kamado_(pokemon) -> commander_kamado). These names definitely need a closer look-through, especially as many of them are single-use on a single post. Having a single large set like this that you're asking people to pick out individual ones to change is undoubtedly going to have many overlooked, causing many erroneous aliases. It would be better to have someone who knows these names better to make the requests from the get go, instead of trying to look through a premade dump of aliases.

I do have a small BUR for a few of these already.

This is why I still wanted the accent removed, it creates a consistency that doesn't need so frequent aliases.

BTW, I think multi-BUR dumps like this should be against the rules. One of the purposes of limiting the size of BURs is to help make it easier to verify it's correct when you don't have so many aliases/implications at once. If you're making several BURs to get around the BUR limit, you're just creating that same problem again. As it is, it'll be impossible to properly point out all the Japanese names in this that should be aliased to English names, or to point out all the improper duplicate names (like Kamado's), or to point out what may not even be real Pokemon characters. Also, you should only be making requests for things you know or believe to be correct yourself, something you can stand by on its own, not making a bunch of blind requests and asking other people to fix up what's inevitably wrong for you.

I know a decent amount about Pokémon, although not so much the last two games, and especially not Colosseum which a lot of the single-use tags appear to be from (post #545287).

Disappointed to see no representation for this guy: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Biden

Do we want to bite the bullet and alias blue_(pokémon) to gary_oak? The two have no visual differences, making TWYS tricky, and they're essentially alternate universe versions of the same character anyway. In fact, the "blue" tag already encompasses multiple different characters between the games and various contradictory manga adaptations. Contrast red_(pokémon) and ash_ketchum, which are distinct designs.

Some of these aliases are tricky or downright evil. I initially thought melissa_(pokemon) was some obscure character from a game I haven't played, but after looking it up it turns out that's the Japanese name of fantina_(pokémon) (which has apparently been aliased to fantina, not sure I agree with that). But then we have the case of heath_(pokemon), who is apparently a second-string Pokémon Ranger antagonist, except it's also the Japanese name of this obscure character from the core series. post #1567134 is currently tagged with both for the same character.

Considering this site's focus, I am unconvinced of the worth of maintaining a complete translation database of every human character in this enormous franchise, especially when you start having to consider names in one language which were later reused for a different character in another language, or even different characters being called the same thing in the same language (which is how we ended up with the strangely-named tag bianca_(m05)). It would probably be a better use of our time to correct the few pictures which use the incorrect tags.

EDIT: Also, the more I investigate this, the more I discover that the Japanese tags were added (in some cases to posts which were already correctly tagged in English) by the same user who has since been banned for tagging-related offences.

wat8548 said:
Considering this site's focus, I am unconvinced of the worth of maintaining a complete translation database of every human character in this enormous franchise, especially when you start having to consider names in one language which were later reused for a different character in another language, or even different characters being called the same thing in the same language (which is how we ended up with the strangely-named tag bianca_(m05)). It would probably be a better use of our time to correct the few pictures which use the incorrect tags.

Cleaning out post #2090003 would get rid of many (though certainly not all, and probably not even most) of the Japanese name tags. I'm nowhere near knowledgeable enough to handle all those names.

Aliasing the Japanese names could be good for Pixiv imports--sometimes users simply copy over the Japanese tags and don't realize that it's that same character in English.

Project update: I fucking hate klorpa.

I've cleaned out most of the low-hanging fruit, with many Japanese tags exterminated entirely and many others isolated to just post #2090003. post #1545100 and post #1536781 were particularly fruitful.

I have come to two conclusions: firstly, that the supply of Pokémon waifus is indeed utterly bottomless and tagging them is a fool's errand. How many of you, without looking, can tell me which game Mint appeared in? Who remembers the one episode of the anime that linda_(pokemon) appeared in and then never again?

Secondly, with only a few rare exceptions, the trash has already taken itself out. 99% of these tags were added by the aforementioned banned user, who was banned for their practice of importing tags wholesale from other boorus which do not conform to our tagging standards. There is not much evidence of a widespread problem of Japanese tags outside of that, although it's worth keeping an eye on the situation just in case nonsense like topic #33934 ever comes around again.

BUR #2728: remove Crystal, see topic #34329

BUR #2729: remove Mikan, Yuuki, Kotone. I'm not altogether happy about the Mom alias either since the mother characters in all games have different designs, and some even have names - for example, grace_(pokemon) in this same BUR is the mother from X/Y.

BUR #2730: remove Nagi, Shirona, Suzuna, Kenta, Takeshi, Hinata, Tsukushi, Ibuki, Ooba, Azusa (Japanese), Yvonne (obsolete fan name for serena_(pokémon))

BUR #2731: remove Kurin, Asuna, Kouki, Largo, Akane, Karin, Lila (Japanese), Marina (topic #34329 again). Maybe add an alias to curly_(pokémon) since that's apparently Kurin's English name and it didn't exist before I retagged the posts.

BUR #2732: remove Melissa, Touko, Kagetsu, Fuuro, Kamitsure, Matsuba, Homika, Suiren, Lions (Japanese) (yes, including Melissa). Both the posts under greta_(pokemon) have been deleted, and when I remade the tag for post #2090003 I called it arena_tycoon_greta to match the style of the other Frontier Brain tags.

BUR #2733: remove Tail, Jun, Cattleya, Natane, Makomo, Mirei, Heath, Dent, Satoko, Kanon, Denji, Hyouta, Mizuki (Japanese). I retagged the two aya_(pokemon) posts to aya_(pokémon_conquest) as part of a reorganisation of the very small amount of Pokémon Conquest fanart on this site. Both were formerly tagged with both Japanese and English names. Characters in that game are in a bit of a unique situation compared to the rest of the franchise in that the vast majority are based on and named after real Japanese historical figures (here's Aya ), so there isn't much risk of cross-pollination.

BUR #2734: remove Apollo, Azami, Hayato, Kanna, Katsura, Lambda, Mikuri, Prim, Yanagi (Japanese), Lyle (not actually a Pokémon character). kate_(pokemon) is a real, if somewhat obscure, character, but both the posts were mistags. Unfortunately it is also the Japanese name of hall_matron_argenta, which is just one more reason why I don't think blindly aliasing Japanese to English is a good idea, at least not for every possible character.

BUR #2735: remove Ayako, Eureka, Musashi, Amara, Sweet, Gingie, Hitomi.

BUR #2736: remove Jinjii, Carnet, Citron, Sana, Toroba, Urup, Sumomo (Japanese), Clerk (obsolete term for the office_worker_(pokemon) trainer class).

BUR #2737: remove Marine, Higana, Leo, Atsumi, Lucia, Langley, Basho, Buson, Imite, Ribbon, Ribon, Zanner, Lion, Sieg, Mitsuru, Kaki, Adan, Akagi, Anzu (Japanese, and misspelled in a couple of cases). Alias ruby_(pokemon) to brendan_(pokémon) instead. mako_(pokemon)'s sole post formerly had two tags, that one and mako_(m14). I decided to keep the latter, on the basis that it is more likely that Game Freak will create a second character called Mako than that one bit part from an unpopular movie will ever receive another piece of fanart again.

BUR #2738: Literally just reject this one outright. Not a single one of these is English.

BUR #2739: delete everything except Aria, Mint, Mustard and Peeko.

BUR #2740: Remove Elisa, which is a typo for Elesa. Alias officer_(pokemon) to police_officer_(pokémon) instead. I retagged kunoichi_(pokemon)'s one post as kunoichi_(pokémon_conquest).

All tags I recommended for removal now have 0 posts (except Marina). I regret not taking a count of the number of non-zero *_(pokemon) tags before I embarked upon this odyssey, because it's definitely much smaller now.

The bulk update request #2738 (forum #338770) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.

wat8548 said:
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All tags I recommended for removal now have 0 posts (except Marina). I regret not taking a count of the number of non-zero *_(pokemon) tags before I embarked upon this odyssey, because it's definitely much smaller now.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Seriously.

UPDATE: Aya, Momo and Shoko removed. Anabel kept. Server kicked 4 times.

Looks like you got everyone except Aya.

Some things I forgot to mention:

It would probably be a good idea to hold off on aliasing Momo and Shoko until the short they appear in is localised to English. Note in particular that the Momo tagged on this site is not the same one who appears when you type her name into Bulbapedia, and the two Momos will probably have different names after localisation.

There is a salon_maiden_anabel tag with no posts, but that has been given an implication to frontier_brain. All the actual Anabel posts are in anabel_(pokemon) instead. Should these be aliased together? I didn't do it pre-emptively because more people know Anabel from her appearance in Sun/Moon where she is no longer a Frontier Brain, plus the implication was an ImpidiDinkaDoo special.

The following tags need recounts from whoever is qualified to push the "Kick Server" button: kurin_(pokemon), greta_(pokemon), largo_(pokemon), mikan_(pokemon).

If any seasoned Pokémon waifu-hunters would like to lend a hand, there was one character in post #1536781 I was unable to identify. Based on context she probably appeared in a movie somewhere; I've hardly seen any of them and remember even less.

Finally, if anyone appreciated this service, remember to say Thanks, Bulbapedia.

EDIT: Alright, I couldn't help myself. I downloaded yesterday's tag database export and counted the non-zero tags ending in _(pokemon). It came out at 364. There are now 228.

Are youngster_(pokemon) and youngster_(pokemon_sword_and_shield) different enough for 2 tags?

gattonero2001 said:
Are youngster_(pokemon) and youngster_(pokemon_sword_and_shield) different enough for 2 tags?

Are you quite sure this is a rabbit hole you want to go down? The thing about NPC trainers in general is that they get a new design every generation while sharing the same name, so technically there should be eight Youngster tags in total.

And that's just the beginning. All of these characters and more share the ace_trainer_(pokémon) tag:

post #3181519 post #3036016 post #868782 post #3025443

Sorry, was looking through the BURs for a different reason and spotted a bunch of 0-post tags I missed.

nita_(pokemon), evelyn_(pokemon), dana_(pokemon) and morgan_(pokemon) should be aliased to battle_chatelaine_nita, battle_chatelaine_evelyn, battle_chatelaine_dana and battle_chatelaine_morgan.

noland_(pokemon)'s posts are now all at factory_head_noland. Unlike Anabel he has never appeared outside the Battle Frontier.

melanie_(pokemon), as far as I can tell, was someone's OC.

raizou_(pokemon) is Japanese.

wat8548 said:
Sorry, was looking through the BURs for a different reason and spotted a bunch of 0-post tags I missed.

Bulk update request updated.

https://e621.net/bulk_update_requests/2741

About the NPC trainers, I really don't believe that each of them having 8 tags is necessary.

The bulk update request #2728 (forum #338760) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2729 (forum #338761) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2730 (forum #338762) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2731 (forum #338763) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2733 (forum #338765) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2734 (forum #338766) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2735 (forum #338767) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2736 (forum #338768) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2737 (forum #338769) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2739 (forum #338771) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2740 (forum #338772) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

The bulk update request #2732 (forum #338764) has been approved by @bitWolfy.

Why are you guys getting rid of unicode characters? I never got the story on that.

lonelylupine said:
Why are you guys getting rid of unicode characters? I never got the story on that.

Tl;Dr Bugs

BTW, thought of a pun: The Ænglish language.

Trying to find relevant topic:

https://e621.net/forum_topics/25717 Feature changes announcement

https://e621.net/forum_topics/9518 Ancient post about code pages

https://e621.net/forum_topics/25834 Mention of "phasing them out"
https://e621.net/forum_topics/25834?page=1#forum_post_297594 <--- Right, it makes it a PITA. Not really 'bugs' so much as manageability, I guess?

https://e621.net/forum_topics/25734?page=13#forum_post_292718 Hmm, I can't seem to find any earlier relevant forum posts. Does somebody remember the title or know the topic ID? :(

:edit: Searched by title. I give up. :facepalm:

https://e621.net/forum_topics/29685

OK, not mentioned but a sort of major one for stuff like usernames is that some characters look the same or similar, and this is why it's often banned in usernames. Or at least, unless it's characters which are unique by definition (say, proper names in some languages always use certain symbols specific to that language, right?).

https://e621.net/tags?commit=Search&search%5Bhide_empty%5D=1&search%5Bname_matches%5D=%2A%C3%A9%2A&search%5Border%5D=count Just for fun, I looked them all up.

The bulk update request #2742 (forum #) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.

The bulk update request #2741 (forum #) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.