Topic: Tag Alias: gynoid -> android

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Aliasing gynoid → android
Link to alias

Reason:

1.) The dictionary definition of gynoid is "... anything that resembles or pertains to the female human form. The term has more recently been applied to a humanoid robot designed to more accurately look like a human female with much more realism than normal androids, or of those with a sexual connotation." So in layman's terms it means an android that is very realistically human, often pertaining to sexual body parts. But in effect it's being tagged as "humanoid or anthro sex bot" currently, so improper usage. But more importantly,

2.) It's being used as the female version of android. We don't do [species]_[gender] tags like dragon_girl or anything, so we should get rid of this one too. It's effectively just a cool term for robot_girl.

Extra: I guess it could also implicate female, since it seems to only be tagged on androids of that gender. But ya never know when someone might tag it on an intersex robot as well *shrug*

Updated by furrypickle

I was about to go through and clean out gynoid, but thought it should be brought up here first, and probably aliased. Opinions?

Updated by anonymous

The only reason I wouldn't want to alias it is because robots don't really have a gender (sex) anyways so it isn't that accurate to use android.

On the other hand, this is a site filled with unicorns. Just mark it female/male if it's obviously what the artist was going for just as always.

Also, I'm going to go ahead and throw anthroid into the ring, since it's inherently related.

Updated by anonymous

I agree with the alias, it's a female android.

Updated by anonymous

parasprite said:

Also, I'm going to go ahead and throw anthroid into the ring, since it's inherently related.

I thought about this too, but the wiki just recently got updated to explicitly include "anthro androids," and last I checked as anrhrois hadn't been tagged in a while. I figured I could just do that one manually, but I'll check in on it later.

Updated by anonymous

titanmelon said:
that's not sexist at all

Tokaido said:
Gynoids? Yeah a little I guess, but it is a porn site :P

Well actually, I'm pretty sure they're referring to the root origins of both words: andros is greek for male; gyne is greek for female. So "android" as a word uses the male greek root word, while gynoid uses the female greek root word. Hence the "sexist" joke. I see it as a joke though, because it's about as "sexist" as words like "mankind" or "all men are created equal" etc. The root seems limited, but that's moot when longstanding usage has more than one definition, and some of those definitions aren't literal to gender but actually use it to refer to all humans. Gender politics aside, "android" doesn't mean just the male robots. Not sure if the use of andros was referring to gender in the first place or if it was chosen to convey the resemblance to humankind. It's possible it might never have meant gender when it was coined (though I'm sure some people have read gender into it sooner or later). The way I see it, the "sexist" point is just a funny observation about the appearance of both of the words. As soon as you look at usage and definitions (aka, what the actually word means) then it falls apart.

So based on the way "android" just means "a robot with resemblance to a human being" by definition, then I see no problem with keeping it as the general term. And I also see no problem with aliasing the "female-only" specialized term (gynoid) to --> the general term (android) because of e621's policy against [gender]_[species] tags of which gynoid exclusively is and android most commonly is not. So, the alias would make sense to do.

Updated by anonymous

Alias approved for both gynoid and anthroid to --> android. Both the gender (male, female, etc) and the humanoid/anthro/feral status of an android are already supposed to be tagged with the appropriate tags. So we don't need gynoid to indicate if the robot is female or anthroid to indicate if the robot is anthro. These things are already being tagged in much more standard ways.

Updated by anonymous

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