Topic: Tag un-implications: mummy, vampire -> undead

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Yes, I understand that these two beings are considered undead. However, there are several images where characters are dressed up as a mummy or vampre, but are not undead themselves. On top of that, there are a select few images where mummies are visible, but not showing any signs of being undead. Thoughts?

Updated by Granberia

JoeX said:
Yes, I understand that these two beings are considered undead. However, there are several images where characters are dressed up as a mummy or vampre, but are not undead themselves. On top of that, there are a select few images where mummies are visible, but not showing any signs of being undead. Thoughts?

Kind of support this, mostly because I'm sure someone will make on and say it isn't. It is something that should be on a per pic basis I think

Updated by anonymous

Against for vampire. Someone role playing/cosplaying a vampire would still dressed up as an undead, so the species tag makes sense enough to leave it aliasex. It would be like saying that since a character can dress up as a horse, so we should remove the equine alias.

Ambivalent for mummy. I'm sure there are images out there with still dead mummies that aren't walking around, so I can see the problem. But is it common enough to unalias? Not convinced it is, but that doesn't mean I'm against it either.

Updated by anonymous

Isn't a better idea to not tag people cosplaying as mummy or wampire?
It's like removing implications wolf -> canine -> mammal because it can be some anthro lizard wearing wolf's_clothing.

Updated by anonymous

Yeah, perhaps those could be retagged as vampire_costume? If someone's searching for vampire, they're probably looking for actual vampires.

(Though vampire doesn't even seem to be implicated to undead at the moment..)

Updated by anonymous

My thoughts are that people will tend to tag a fox costume with fox a picachu costume with picachu. There's also that borderline "character that isn't wearing a costume...oh look they found a zipper and are actually a different character!" which always gives me a pause.

Personally...I think it would be simplest to just make sure and tag them costume. I'm not against having a few fox_costume and similar tags that are going to be common, but it doesn't make sense to push for thousands of extra tags nobody is going to use just so that we can be very slightly more correct, particularly when they intend to replace much more common tags. Even if everybody knew about it it would still need to be checked every now and then to make sure nobody missed the underscore.

What do we do with plushies?
Statues?
A cat cosplaying as arcanine?

Updated by anonymous

To be honest I don't know whether tags for clothing/costume should be made for everything, but I'm against reasoning that species implications should be deleted because it can be just a costume. Sure, costume tags for everything is a mess, but removing/not adding implications because of costumes lead to even bigger mess. I think I'm okay with either making whole bunch of costume tags or leaving just costume + species tag even though some human in wolf costume would be tagged as canine.
I'm not okay with OP suggestion.

I think that this is also my view when it comes to pokemon species implications where similar arguments are used against implications.

Updated by anonymous

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