Topic: [REJECTED] inner_ear colors BUR

The bulk update request #884 has been rejected.

Reason: This bur is based on the implications of body markings, and how other colors are handled

I don't know how to handle "khaki_/-fur/-body/-inner_ear" though. It's a range from tan to green. I'd say it should either be an invalid tag or aliased to "khaki/-_fur-/-_inner_ear-/-body_-(disambiguation)" because its to vague.
Also, "peru_/-fur/-body/-inner_ear" it's a range from tan to brown

EDIT: The bulk update request #884 (forum #309625) has been rejected by @DubsTheFox.

• It might not be good to use the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_fur, since inner_ear_fluff could also be used for characters with feathers and no fur.
• Instead of directly implicating [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_body, it might be better to utilize the implication chain [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears -> [color]_body.
• Should the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear also be used? Utilizing this would alter the implication chain to instead be [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears -> [color]_body (for example, this would create the implication chain black_inner_ear_fluff -> black_inner_ear -> black_ears -> black_body).

Should [color]_inner_ear_fluff imply [color]_body, even indirectly? Take for example,
post #2594420
would white_body really be a relevant tag simply because she has white_inner_ear_fluff?

Good point there, it might be better to simplify the implication chain to [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears instead.

Honestly, the *_fur and *_feathers implications to *_body seem wrong to me. A fur coat or other furred accessory item wouldn't be a body, and feathers can be used for ornamentation, and it would be useful and otherwise valid to tag the color of fur or feathers you can see. The singular form [color]_feather doesn't imply [color]_body, but if there's a collection of feathers, the singular form wouldn't be right or obvious (and there's no similar "singular" exception for fur). I get why the implications are there, because they're most often right and most people won't bother with [color]_body tags, but sometimes they're not, causing some posts to either be improperly tagged or not have a relevant tag.

d.d.m. said:

• It might not be good to use the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_fur, since inner_ear_fluff could also be used for characters with feathers and no fur.

That's true.

d.d.m. said:
Should the implications [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear also be used? Utilizing this would alter the implication chain to instead be [color]_inner_ear_fluff -> [color]_inner_ear -> [color]_ears -

At first, I would have said no. I would have tagged this post: post #2594420 with white_inner_ear_fluff and pink_inner_ear. but it is, in fact, a part of the inner ear. so this would be better, I guess.

watsit said:
would white_body really be a relevant tag simply because she has white_inner_ear_fluff?

I would say yes. I always tag *_markings, *_stripes,dipstick_ears + color_/-body/-fur/-etc plz say thats not wrong o_o' I'd have to go over some posts I have changed

I was about to edit the BUR, but it looks like I can't. I have to make a new one, right?

See also: previous BUR that only includes the (color)_inner_ear_fluff -> inner_ear_fluff implications

dubsthefox said:
I was about to edit the BUR, but it looks like I can't. I have to make a new one, right?

You should be able to edit it, have you tried going to the BUR page?

faucet said:
See also: previous BUR that only includes the (color)_inner_ear_fluff -> inner_ear_fluff implications

You should be able to edit it, have you tried going to the BUR page?

Oh. thank you. I am going to change fur to body, and I'll remove the ones you have already suggested ^^

dubsthefox said:
I would say yes. I always tag *_markings, *_stripes,dipstick_ears + color_/-body/-fur/-etc plz say thats not wrong o_o' I'd have to go over some posts I have changed

For the most part, that's fine since markings, stripes, dipstick ears/tail are part of the character's body. But inner ear fluff is sometimes just a ball of fluff coming from inside the ear, as in the example, and doesn't really represent the body. It'd be like saying I have a black_body because I have some black fluff growing out of my nose, while all of my skin is a different color.

And on the topic of fur more generally, you have things like post #2746601 in which the character has blue scales and thus has a blue body, but has a mane and some chin and tail tufts of white fur. I wouldn't say he has a white_body because of the mane and tufts, any more than I have a black_body because of black_hair, but that's what white_fur causes to be implicated.

The bulk update request #884 (forum #309625) has been rejected by @DubsTheFox.