And with this I mean stuff like, funny comments, actual feedback, those types of things. I'm not a fucking psychopath who checks every single account, but I do check the ones that I see the most in the comments, and all of them either have negative feedback or neutral (and some of these feedbacks don't even make sense, like, i've been warned one time for making a "creepy comment" when i literally didn't? but oh well this isn't what i'm talking about). I have yet to see someone who literally only comments, and has a reward for it.

And no, this is not biased because I have 1 negative feedback and 3 neutral, this is just an actual opinion I've had ever since I've been sucked into this hell hole joined this site and became actually active on it.

Ex dee

blitzdrachin said:
Ex dee

xD

noteuropeansavior said:
And with this I mean stuff like, funny comments, actual feedback, those types of things. I'm not a fucking psychopath who checks every single account, but I do check the ones that I see the most in the comments, and all of them either have negative feedback or neutral (and some of these feedbacks don't even make sense, like, i've been warned one time for making a "creepy comment" when i literally didn't? but oh well this isn't what i'm talking about). I have yet to see someone who literally only comments, and has a reward for it.
And no, this is not biased because I have 1 negative feedback and 3 neutral, this is just an actual opinion I've had ever since I've been sucked into this hell hole joined this site and became actually active on it.

It's always seemed like a dumb rule to me, especially for minor things like responding "don't mind if I do!" to a talking_to_viewer pic or your "literally me" comment that you got a neutral record for, but apparently many users here like the rule to prevent the comment sections from becoming short smutty fanfics, so whatever. If the userbase disagreed with the rule, the offenses wouldn't be reported and nobody would be getting in trouble.

I agree im scared to comment basicly anything on this website because of it, even reacting to this forum am i afraid i will get in trouble for it.

Ive uploaded almost 1500 posts and what do i get for it? , a neutral, because of a single comment.

I kind of know how the OP and @goodusername feels.　 I mean, I thought so, too.
That's why I basically decided not to leave my comments, Not just for Creepy/TMI, but for Everything.

Maybe I was told somewhere by someone that "No comment, No record".
But then the comments would be all blank. ← I guess that's not so bad, as for e6, after all.
Though there have been many times in the past when I have posted something (to other site) and received no comments.

So sometimes I still don't know what the comments are for, ...sometimes.

kurogi_foxsiv said:

Maybe I was told somewhere by someone that "No comment, No record".

It's actually kinda sad that that's literally the case here. If you want to have positive records, you have to keep your mouth shut and focus on posting and editing posts. It reminds me of slavery in a way, but I'm probably getting carried away HAUEIHUAh

The fact you got a negative record for just writting "Nope." I felt that.

azero said:
The fact you got a negative record for just writting "Nope." I felt that.

I cry every time I remember this. It's just so depressing

You just have to adopt a style that is closer to comedy than creepy.

lance_armstrong said:
You just have to adopt a style that is closer to comedy than creepy.

I legit don't see how any (or, well, some of) the guys I checked have a style that is in any way creepy, but ok I guess

noteuropeansavior said:
I legit don't see how any (or, well, some of) the guys I checked have a style that is in any way creepy, but ok I guess

I didn't look at any of the comments mentioned, it's just my general advice.

lance_armstrong said:
You just have to adopt a style that is closer to comedy than creepy.

It can feel disrespectful for an artist to see comedians farming upvotes for themselves in the comments section, if the artwork wasn't intended to be funny, that is. Joke comments are kinda the commenter turning the spotlight on themselves and saying "look how funny I am". Leave the spotlight on the artist and say what you like about their artwork, make a nice observation about the picture, or say something the artist would enjoy reading.

caroway said:
It can feel disrespectful for an artist to see comedians farming upvotes for themselves in the comments section, if the artwork wasn't intended to be funny, that is. Joke comments are kinda the commenter turning the spotlight on themselves and saying "look how funny I am". Leave the spotlight on the artist and say what you like about their artwork, make a nice observation about the picture, or say something the artist would enjoy reading.

Sounds a little boring. People should laugh while they still can. 2020 is just the warm up.

caroway said:
It can feel disrespectful for an artist to see comedians farming upvotes for themselves in the comments section, if the artwork wasn't intended to be funny, that is. Joke comments are kinda the commenter turning the spotlight on themselves and saying "look how funny I am". Leave the spotlight on the artist and say what you like about their artwork, make a nice observation about the picture, or say something the artist would enjoy reading.

I honestly don't think that's true. Most people don't even read the comments anyways

caroway said:
It can feel disrespectful for an artist to see comedians farming upvotes for themselves in the comments section, if the artwork wasn't intended to be funny, that is. Joke comments are kinda the commenter turning the spotlight on themselves and saying "look how funny I am". Leave the spotlight on the artist and say what you like about their artwork, make a nice observation about the picture, or say something the artist would enjoy reading.

But joke comments are the reason why I check them xD

caroway said:
It can feel disrespectful for an artist to see comedians farming upvotes for themselves in the comments section, if the artwork wasn't intended to be funny, that is. Joke comments are kinda the commenter turning the spotlight on themselves and saying "look how funny I am". Leave the spotlight on the artist and say what you like about their artwork, make a nice observation about the picture, or say something the artist would enjoy reading.

Artist here. I disagree that jokes are "disrespectful". Plenty of artists have a sense of humor, some not. It depends on the artist. We're individuals with individual thoughts.

caroway said:
It can feel disrespectful for an artist to see comedians farming upvotes for themselves in the comments section, if the artwork wasn't intended to be funny, that is. Joke comments are kinda the commenter turning the spotlight on themselves and saying "look how funny I am". Leave the spotlight on the artist and say what you like about their artwork, make a nice observation about the picture, or say something the artist would enjoy reading.

I know of one instance where I got into a funny comments battle with someone on a comic I was reposting, it went on for every new page.
And in the end, I lost. But the artist did acknowledge that they were reading the comments on e6 on their original FA post, saying it was hilarious~ xD

caroway said:
It can feel disrespectful for an artist to see comedians farming upvotes for themselves in the comments section, if the artwork wasn't intended to be funny, that is. Joke comments are kinda the commenter turning the spotlight on themselves and saying "look how funny I am". Leave the spotlight on the artist and say what you like about their artwork, make a nice observation about the picture, or say something the artist would enjoy reading.

So what you are saying here is "Don't make jokes because someone might not find them funny. Don't share negative opinions because someone might get sad. Don't leave comments of sexual nature on pornographic content because it might make someone uncomfortable." I don't think it would be very healthy to only ever share your thoughts after ensuring they are completely inoffensive, sterile and 'feel good'.

People need to stop taking negative / neutral records so seriously, and maybe just learn from them? Especially around comments. When you're taking comments on e6 seriously, and going around art just trying to be funny or posting 1 word meme comments, it's time to take a break

pyke said:
People need to stop taking negative / neutral records so seriously, and maybe just learn from them? Especially around comments. When you're taking comments on e6 seriously, and going around art just trying to be funny or posting 1 word meme comments, it's time to take a break

^
Also, not posting "i wish that were me" comments or using the blacklist instead complaining about stuff u dont like its very easy xD

blitzdrachin said:
^
Also, not posting "i wish that were me" comments or using the blacklist instead complaining about stuff u dont like its very easy xD

I wonder how much some "I wish that were me" comments would need to be reworded to fall within the rules. Is rewording to third-person passive voice enough?

"I wish that were me" → "Being in (insert characters)'s position would be amazing"
"I would love to be his prey" → "Being his prey would be an honor"
"I want to fuck her" → "That pose intimately invites us in for sex, who could say no to that?"
"Wish I could be filled with his cum" → "The guy getting filled with his cum is so lucky"
"God I wanna make out with that chocobo's asshole" → "The guy making out with the chocobo's asshole is so lucky"

Would any of those get a negative record?

caroway said:
I wonder how much some "I wish that were me" comments would need to be reworded to fall within the rules. Is rewording to third-person passive voice enough?

"I wish that were me" → "Being in (insert characters)'s position would be amazing"
"I would love to be his prey" → "Being his prey would be an honor"
"I want to fuck her" → "That pose intimately invites us in for sex, who could say no to that?"
"Wish I could be filled with his cum" → "The guy getting filled with his cum is so lucky"
"God I wanna make out with that chocobo's asshole" → "The guy making out with the chocobo's asshole is so lucky"

Would any of those get a negative record?

From what I think, yes, they would, except for the prey comment (change the "honor" word by "hot/sexy" and it would fall too).
The others still have "too much info" xD, which can be perfectly changed to just "lucky guy!" To avoid the record.

caroway said:
I wonder how much some "I wish that were me" comments would need to be reworded to fall within the rules. Is rewording to third-person passive voice enough?

"I wish that were me" → "Being in (insert characters)'s position would be amazing"
"I would love to be his prey" → "Being his prey would be an honor"
"I want to fuck her" → "That pose intimately invites us in for sex, who could say no to that?"
"Wish I could be filled with his cum" → "The guy getting filled with his cum is so lucky"
"God I wanna make out with that chocobo's asshole" → "The guy making out with the chocobo's asshole is so lucky"

Would any of those get a negative record?

Those are a bit too thinly veiled "god i wish that were me" comments. Also "That pose intimately invites us in for sex" creeps me out more than the original tbh.

caroway said:
Would any of those get a negative record?

First-time offenses are almost always a neutral record. Negative records are a result of repeat offenses for the same type of offense (tagging abuse will get you a neutral record, then a creepy comment will get you another neutral record, and another creepy comment will then get you a negative record). There may be exceptions to this, but it'd have to be a rather egregious violation.

Most of the time I don't speak up around here, but I agree a lot. This started with good intentions, I really believe that, but the initiative to keep the comments "clean" has just turned them sterile and meaningless and made commenting feel dangerous. Doubly so because about the only thing "no sex comments, no roleplay comments, no meaningless comments" leaves is commentary on the art or writing, and most of the freaking time those get downvoted by defensive fans!

In theory, comments expressing desire for the subject can be replaced by likes/faves, and meaningless comments like "lol" aren't useful for anything. But in practice, and within reason, these are just normal social behavior and stifling them.. just feels.. it's hard to express but makes it seem like the site is trying to be something more pretentious than it actually is, like an art museum or something. It hurts the community, and sense of community here.

I also think that "creepy comments" exist and are a real concern, but disagree that sexual comments are inherently creepy unless they go farther than the original post, i.e. sexual comments on a safe image, or niche fetish comments on a pinup. As long as they're in line with the content itself, I just don't see the problem, and if someone is seriously creeped out by seeing "I want to fuck her" or "What an invitation!" on an image of, like, a vixen with her legs spread, that's just.. dumb.

incidentally the OP was blocked for not using a blacklist and complaining in the comments

↑ ...oh no what the heck...¯\_😒_/¯
I think it's okay for there to be Positive[Non-Negative] comments and funny Jokes that can only be made by users who have seen the art.
However, if that means I will "only risk" being punished or rated as unwelcome then, I wonder if "DO NOT comment" would be best for me. (( Although unfortunately, that may be the reality. ))

By the way, I have one question - Hearing what @Caroway and @Violet_Rose had to say made me think of this.
● If I'm an artist and an e6 user, is it possible to allow/accept the following comments in my posts? ^{( ← Hey, already joined to C-DNP, huh? )}
⇒⇒⇒ Creepy/TMI, Role-Play, Jokes, Off_topic related to art... Needless to say, it's usually against the rules.
(※Politics, racial_slurs, drama, and negative are all nonsense, so that's Not possible.)

a lot of furries just don't understand that people just do not care if you wish that Fox Fursona #342,561 getting rammed in the ass by a Wolf OC was you or if a Guilmon using a sex toy is a mood.

kurogi_foxsiv said:
↑ ...oh no what the heck...¯\_😒_/¯
I think it's okay for there to be Positive[Non-Negative] comments and funny Jokes that can only be made by users who have seen the art.
However, if that means I will "only risk" being punished or rated as unwelcome then, I wonder if "DO NOT comment" would be best for me. (( Although unfortunately, that may be the reality. ))

By the way, I have one question - Hearing what @Caroway and @Violet_Rose had to say made me think of this.
● If I'm an artist and an e6 user, is it possible to allow/accept the following comments in my posts? ^{( ← Hey, already joined to C-DNP, huh? )}
⇒⇒⇒ Creepy/TMI, Role-Play, Jokes, Off_topic related to art... Needless to say, it's usually against the rules.
(※Politics, racial_slurs, drama, and negative are all nonsense, so that's Not possible.)

Even if the artist accepts those comments, rules still are applied :p
Jokes are always allowed as long they don't break any rule, in case you get a record for it, you can always dispute. From what I've seen, sometimes people gets records for them when they don't make them obvious and mods don't get them, or when they spam the same copy/pasta a lot of times.

blitzdrachin said:
Even if the artist accepts those comments, rules still are applied :p
...sometimes people gets records for them when they don't make them obvious and mods don't get them...

Well, I supposed it will (；´・ω・) ^{ﾃﾞｽﾖﾈｰ}
So we need to strictly make the meaning of our comments obvious.

Do folks really need to announce that they triple whipped creamed their pants with a cherry on top on Tuesday night while looking at some art?

I know that some artists like those types of comments and it’s okay to whip cream sometimes, but do you have to let everyone know about it? To me, it’s like being in a museum and you blurt out “WOW, CHECK OUT HER TIG BITTIES. I’M LIKE, PLUS-ULTRA HARD RIGHT NOW, SCOOB”

thehuskyk9 said:
Do folks really need to announce that they triple whipped creamed their pants with a cherry on top on Tuesday night while looking at some art?

I know that some artists like those types of comments and it’s okay to whip cream sometimes, but do you have to let everyone know about it? To me, it’s like being in a museum and you blurt out “WOW, CHECK OUT HER TIG BITTIES. I’M LIKE, PLUS-ULTRA HARD RIGHT NOW, SCOOB”

As opposed to "Jinkies, the level of detail on her boobs is outstanding! I wonder if I can commission something like this."? I know the first half (or used to be, if it's suddenly not acceptable now), is the second half still something okay for people to say?

thehuskyk9 said:
I know that some artists like those types of comments and it’s okay to whip cream sometimes, but do you have to let everyone know about it? To me, it’s like being in a museum and you blurt out “WOW, CHECK OUT HER TIG BITTIES. I’M LIKE, PLUS-ULTRA HARD RIGHT NOW, SCOOB”

I honestly don't know how to discuss it with a statement like this. I don't have to say anything, not tell a joke or reminisce or display sadness at a sad picture. Though since this site has a comment system, it's obviously inviting comments and discussions for people who want to have them. Going to the extreme of 'being in a public museum spontaneously blurting out crass statements about your huge cock' doesn't exactly frame the issue properly, considering that same rule catches comments like this, or where the user is responding to a question about a lewd topic posed by the post itself. Like, if an artist posted an image of a pokemon trainer fucking a lucario, and the image or description had a question from the artist asking "Who do you find hot? Who do you want to see get fucked next?", would it be creepy for me to comment with "Espeon!" or "Blaziken!"?

It's fine to not want creepy comments, and the site is free to set whatever standard it wants, but I do find it disingenuous when people want to have an honest discussion about it and the opposition goes right to the extreme example of people not being able to help themselves to shouting about tits and cocks and fucking in a public museum, as if e6 is analogous to some fine art history museum where your viewing of rightly family friendly material will be interrupted by someone shouting a comment on a separate piece, or that anyone who brings the subject up invariably wants comments to be anything goes.

The records the OP got are kinda weird given what I'm seeing quality-wise (one is outright deleted, the other isn't deleted but I'm not overly impressed with the thumbnail), but I don't see how the rules could make exceptions for "this is (artistically) bad"-type comments without accidentally doing the same for "this is (a) bad (fetish)"-type comments.

The comment rules are otherwise cool and good. There is no need to "reward" people for commenting: if somebody leaves something of value or starts an interesting dialogue, that's its own reward. We don't need to reward people for banal comment spam that fulfills the bare minimum requirements to not be considered spam.

Then, If we're going to make e6 into a quiet museum,
Where should I(they) throw our thoughts/comments I(they) have but can't do it here, For "Keep-It-Yourself", Creepy(TMI), or anything else ?
- For example, I wonder if we can use Twitter.　(( I'm not familiar with FA, but can we use that too? ))
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lafcadio said:
(...) if somebody leaves something of value or starts an interesting dialogue, that's its own reward (...)

Yes, that's true, I believe.　And now I can understand that Why e6 has comments and forums.

watsit said:
I honestly don't know how to discuss it with a statement like this. I don't have to say anything, not tell a joke or reminisce or display sadness at a sad picture. Though since this site has a comment system, it's obviously inviting comments and discussions for people who want to have them. Going to the extreme of 'being in a public museum spontaneously blurting out crass statements about your huge cock' doesn't exactly frame the issue properly, considering that same rule catches comments like this, or where the user is responding to a question about a lewd topic posed by the post itself. Like, if an artist posted an image of a pokemon trainer fucking a lucario, and the image or description had a question from the artist asking "Who do you find hot? Who do you want to see get fucked next?", would it be creepy for me to comment with "Espeon!" or "Blaziken!"?

It's fine to not want creepy comments, and the site is free to set whatever standard it wants, but I do find it disingenuous when people want to have an honest discussion about it and the opposition goes right to the extreme example of people not being able to help themselves to shouting about tits and cocks and fucking in a public museum, as if e6 is analogous to some fine art history museum where your viewing of rightly family friendly material will be interrupted by someone shouting a comment on a separate piece, or that anyone who brings the subject up invariably wants comments to be anything goes.

The reason why I brought up the museum example is because it is the closest thing I can make a correlation to the topic. Museums are public spaces which displays multiple pieces of art, just like how e621 does the same but virtually. Each museum has their own set of rules on how to conduct yourself while browsing the art, just like e6, etc etc. As for posts that call for those types of comments, I think users can still interact with the post while staying within the rules, just a bit limited while using this site.

I don’t disagree with you that some examples of “creepy” comments have been ticky-tacky, but having been in the staff’s shoes, it’s a tougher decision to make than originally portrayed, so I don’t blame them for that.

I personally find it funny that some people find some comments as "creepy" and yet a large percentage of the content uploaded on this website is far worse than the some comments. INB4 you disregard the rest of this because "use your black list." I mean, I got in trouble for mentioning my personal experience with my x and it was considered "creepy." Most of the content is porn and comments that are dirty or "creepy" is technically expected and unavoidable. The issue is that where do you draw the line because it looks like you can get hit over pretty much anything. Does the admins actually think about their decisions or these reports cherry picked? I've responded to one hit me for the "creepy" comment and got no response. I understand that if someone is being a complete dick or threatening someone's life, should get them banned. Trolling or overall spamming, should get a strike. If someone is truly being a creep, define creep because a comment may not be considered creepy but people need to understand you need to pick and choose your battles. Like my comment, I don't know if someone reported because how dare someone mention something related to the real world or an admin saw it and didn't like it. Are we making these punishment's personal or is this technically breaking the rules? Never in my life have I ever seen a site that provides adult only content and try to make it into a safe haven for degenerates. It's getting to the point that users are walking on eggshells and avoiding from commenting because of the fact that their comment could potentially get them in trouble or banned. Some of use want to comment personal experience or relate to a post without the fear of getting in trouble.

Like with OP's list of feedback. He was hit for just saying "literally me." How is that creepy? What comes to mind is that the individual like to ride a dildo. No one was harmed in the making of their comment and yet it was flagged. That right there is proof that the rules need to be fixed. I get that they needed to use their black list. I get that but not everyone knows how it works properly. Hell, when the website changed, I thought my black list was being buggy. Then I got hit for it. Come to find out it was disabled and yet I was not able to explain myself since the website changed and forced everyone to relearn the layout.

But what do I know? I'm just a millennial degenerate looking for lewd material.

I don't often comment, but I'm not scared on leaving one. I usually do critiques, praises, and quick thoughts on a post that I'm interested in, and rarely funny stuff.

While I do agree on rewarding commenters with actually good comments, they need to follow the site rules on commenting or otherwise they will definitely get punished. I'm sick and tired of people hating or criticising the Creepy Comments rule when there are lots and lots of reasons on keeping their weird sexual fantasies and experiences to themselves.

I will say that mods on this site can be trigger happy with their feedback. But look, there is literally no point to leaving comments saying you don’t like a ceetain fetish, or something is gross to you. Even saying “nope” isn’t necessary. Just blacklist and move on.

As far as the “creepy comments” thing, I’ve been cited for that too, and learned from it. I do understand the point and try to follow that rule. But on the other hand, people really, really need to stop talking down to others on this supposed moral, artistic high horse, FROM A POSITION AS A MOD ON A FURRY CUB SITE. I mean, these people act like curators at a historical art museum. “How DARE you SEXUALIZE our fine ARRRT! For this is NOT sexual you perverted SWINE!” Dude, sometimes, what you’re looking at is literally the most extreme, uncomfortable, childhood-destroying drawing you’ve ever seen. And when the person who’s a moderator on the site FULL of the stuff, or who uploaded it, or DREW it even, acts like “it’s for the arts bro. Stop being sexual,” I’m just like “really? You didn’t facilitate/draw this because you fantasize about this stuff? And I’M the weird one? It’s just expressive and/or educational? Strictly business? Yeah, okay. Sure.”

koder said:
I personally find it funny blah blah blah

You got two neutral records my dude, you didn't get "hit" with anything. I'm not sure how disallowing creepy comments makes the site a safe haven for degenerates either, doesn't it do the opposite? Also, the reason an art hosting site like e6 doesn't want creepy comments despite the amount of porn hosted here is because I don't want to see them, and I'm sure thousands of other users don't want to see how hard your cock is over a picture either.

Nobody is "walking on eggshells" over making comments. It's not that serious. Please change your priorities.

sammytheseal said:
I will say that mods on this site can be trigger happy with their feedback. But look, there is literally no point to leaving comments saying you don’t like a ceetain fetish, or something is gross to you. Even saying “nope” isn’t necessary. Just blacklist and move on.

As far as the “creepy comments” thing, I’ve been cited for that too, and learned from it. I do understand the point and try to follow that rule. But on the other hand, people really, really need to stop talking down to others on this supposed moral, artistic high horse, FROM A POSITION AS A MOD ON A FURRY CUB SITE. I mean, these people act like curators at a historical art museum. “How DARE you SEXUALIZE our fine ARRRT! For this is NOT sexual you perverted SWINE!” Dude, sometimes, what you’re looking at is literally the most extreme, uncomfortable, childhood-destroying drawing you’ve ever seen. And when the person who’s a moderator on the site FULL of the stuff, or who uploaded it, or DREW it even, acts like “it’s for the arts bro. Stop being sexual,” I’m just like “really? You didn’t facilitate/draw this because you fantasize about this stuff? And I’M the weird one? It’s just expressive and/or educational? Strictly business? Yeah, okay. Sure.”

You know, there are artists they draws nsfw just because it helps a lot with their business, I personally feel nothing when drawing it and just have fun with drawing lines, structures and coloring giving a piece some nice colors to look at.
I'm seriously not interested/ I don't like comments of people explaining about how they want to ride a dog penis.

koder said:

But what do I know? I'm just a millennial degenerate looking for lewd material.

You need like... 5 consecutive records of the same rule to get banned? You get at least 4 warnings (and can be more) telling you to stop and you feel like walking on eggshells? xD

Also that neutral records can be deleted after 6 months.