Aliasing penis_tentacles → tentacle_penis
Link to alias

Reason:

Edit: tentacle_penis -> penis_tentacles should be considered instead.

Might be a problem with the few images like this:
post #550658 post #530753 post #371300 where someone has crotch tentacles
as opposed to
post #537611 post #424655 post #353780 where you have tentacles shaped like penises

I'd be fine with maybe creating a new tag like crotch_tentacles for the first type, and then having the wikis contrast/compare/link to each other and letting this alias go through. But that's just what I would do. Since it would be a better way to handle the few that were using the same tag differently. The overwhelming majority of both tags are the tentacles shaped like penises type, so the alias should work fine if the far more rare crotch_tentacles are given a separate home.

furrypickle said:
Might be a problem with the few images like this:
post #550658 post #530753 post #371300 where someone has crotch tentacles
as opposed to
post #537611 post #424655 post #353780 where you have tentacles shaped like penises

I'd be fine with maybe creating a new tag like crotch_tentacles for the first type, and then having the wikis contrast/compare/link to each other and letting this alias go through. But that's just what I would do. Since it would be a better way to handle the few that were using the same tag differently. The overwhelming majority of both tags are the tentacles shaped like penises type, so the alias should work fine if the far more rare crotch_tentacles are given a separate home.

crotch_tentacles sounds perfect.

I'll put this on my list then:

• Create a wiki for crotch_tentacles and tentacle_penis done
• Separate the tags for the two types

parasprite said:
crotch_tentacles sounds perfect.

I'll put this on my list then:

• Create a wiki for crotch_tentacles and tentacle_penis done
• Separate the tags for the two types

Looks awesome! I had a moment, so I went ahead and separated the two out.

I also noticed that there is a very unclear line between crotch_tentacles and prehensile_penis but I can see images in both tags that I wouldn't personally call by the other name, so not sure what the solution is. They're somewhat similar but not always. An implication maybe? Not sure.

furrypickle said:
Looks awesome! I had a moment, so I went ahead and separated the two out.

I also noticed that there is a very unclear line between crotch_tentacles and prehensile_penis but I can see images in both tags that I wouldn't personally call by the other name, so not sure what the solution is. They're somewhat similar but not always. An implication maybe? Not sure.

Excellent. I'll put prehensile_penis on my to-do list.

if you're renaming tentacle penis to crotch tentacles, then you really need the wiki page on the one that's left, penis tentacle.
Also, I'm against changing it at all.
There's no reason, anyone with a basic understanding of english can understand tentacle penis vs. penis tentacle.
It's a simple modifier/noun relationship.
Tentacle penis is a penis that's a tentacle, penis tentacles are tentacles that are penises.

If we need to make a change for accuracy, it would be better to alias penis_tentacles to penis-shaped_tentacles, as that's a clarification.

Besides, you can have crotch tentacles that aren't a tentacle penis.

Halite said:
Besides, you can have crotch tentacles that aren't a tentacle penis.

Er, yes. Which is why those should be separated.

This is crotch_tentacles (the new tag):
post #457853

And this is tentacle_penis:
post #377873

Both used to be tagged under tentacle_penis, but are better off separated.

Genjar said:
...
And this is tentacle_penis:
post #377873

Both used to be tagged under tentacle_penis, but are better off separated.

Those are penis tentacles, not a tentacle penis.

Halite said:
Those are penis tentacles, not a tentacle penis.

I see your point, maybe the alias should be flipped for linguistic accuracy. It would make sense though I doubt most people would even notice the difference.

Halite said:
if you're renaming tentacle penis to crotch tentacles, then you really need the wiki page on the one that's left, penis tentacle.
Also, I'm against changing it at all.
There's no reason, anyone with a basic understanding of english can understand tentacle penis vs. penis tentacle.
It's a simple modifier/noun relationship.
Tentacle penis is a penis that's a tentacle, penis tentacles are tentacles that are penises.

If we need to make a change for accuracy, it would be better to alias penis_tentacles to penis-shaped_tentacles, as that's a clarification.

Ah, that's what I get for tagging while sleep-deprived; I see your point. Though, I don't like penis-shaped_tentacles since it's a bit awkward and too long but for not much gain. Also *shaped* in the tag search shows that -shaped is basically non-existent here, I see no reason to bring in a completely new construction.

+1 for tentacle_penis -alias-> penis_tentacles

Halite said:
Besides, you can have crotch tentacles that aren't a tentacle penis.

Crotch that has tentacles -> crotch_tentacles
Tentacles that have penises on the end -> penis_tentacles
Crotch with tentacles that have penises on the end -> crotch_tentacles + penis_tentacles
Regular tentacles -> tentacles

Simple.

parasprite said:
I see your point, though I don't like penis-shaped_tentacles because it's a bit awkward and too long for not much gain. Also "*shaped*": in the tag search shows that -shaped is basically non-existent here, I see no reason to bring in a completely new construction.

+1 for tentacle_penis -alias-> penis_tentacles

Crotch that has tentacles -> crotch_tentacles
Tentacles that have penises on the end -> penis_tentacles
Crotch with tentacles that have penises on the end -> crotch_tentacles + penis_tentacles
Regular tentacles -> tentacles

Simple.

I can definitely get behind that. Simple and understandable.

So what do we tag for someone who has a penis that is a tentacle?
Because that's not the same thing as crotch_tentacles.
Your proposal negatively impacts searching, and that's what tagging is all about.

We should not be aliasing tentacle penis to penis tentacles, they are not the same thing.

Halite said:
So what do we tag for someone who has a penis that is a tentacle?
Because that's not the same thing as crotch_tentacles.
Your proposal negatively impacts searching, and that's what tagging is all about.

We should not be aliasing tentacle penis to penis tentacles, they are not the same thing.

You're right, I'm silly for trying to lump up 34 obviously different posts. In order to be completely accurate we need to separate them into the following tags:

• penis-shaped_tentacle
• crotch_tentacles
• tentacle-shaped_penis
• pussy_tentacles
• anatomically_correct_penis-shaped_tentacles
• hyper_tentacle-shaped_penis
• horsecock-shaped_tentacles
• hemipenes-shaped_tentacles
• tentacles_not_otherwise_specified

I'll start writing the wikis right away.

Halite said:
So what do we tag for someone who has a penis that is a tentacle?

Do we actually have any of those? I can't find any examples.
If it's just a single tentacle-shaped penis, then it likely falls under tapering penis or prehensile penis. Possibly both.

Genjar said:
Do we actually have any of those? I can't find any examples.
If it's just a single tentacle-shaped penis, then it likely falls under tapering penis or prehensile penis. Possibly both.

post #532770

Halite said:
post #532770

I've played that game enough times to know of at least one instance of a prehensile tentacle penis. But I fail to see why it cannot be tagged with either crotch_tentacles (because it is a tentacle that originates from the crotch) and/or prehensile_penis (since it is referred to as and used in a penile capacity in multiple scenes in that game when you have it). But the point is, that's already covered by these other tags.

The main points are that "tentacle_penis" isn't needed and was regularly confused with "penis_tentacles" because adjective/noun relationships are a lot less clear when it's two isolated words outside of any sentence to give it context. And even though native english speakers should know better, not everyone speaks english well enough that they'd understand the grammatical significance of "penis_tentacles" vs "tentacle_penis". It's more subtle than it needs to be for a tag list. I think that if we can use other tags which are clearer and more distinct, then that's an improvement.

furrypickle said:
I've played that game enough times to know of at least one instance of a prehensile tentacle penis. But I fail to see why it cannot be tagged with either crotch_tentacles (because it is a tentacle that originates from the crotch) and/or prehensile_penis (since it is referred to as and used in a penile capacity in multiple scenes in that game when you have it). But the point is, that's already covered by these other tags.

The main points are that "tentacle_penis" isn't needed and was regularly confused with "penis_tentacles" because adjective/noun relationships are a lot less clear when it's two isolated words outside of any sentence to give it context. And even though native english speakers should know better, not everyone speaks english well enough that they'd understand the grammatical significance of "penis_tentacles" vs "tentacle_penis". It's more subtle than it needs to be for a tag list. I think that if we can use other tags which are clearer and more distinct, then that's an improvement.

I don't like going ahead and making the decision (particularly when I don't actually have any real authority), but you are right having both does not make sense. <--[Edit - I take full responsibility for this stupidity] I really can't think of a noun adjunct pair more likely to be confused with each other than this.

I will use penis_tentacles with the following assumptions until things are actually set in place: Edit - My proposal:

• Alias: tentacle_penis -> penis_tentacles
• Implication: penis_tentacles -> penis, tentacles
• Implication: crotch_tentacles -> tentacles
• Crotch that has tentacles -> crotch_tentacles
• Tentacles that have penises on the end -> penis_tentacles
• Crotch with tentacles that have penises on the end -> crotch_tentacles + penis_tentacles
• Regular tentacles -> tentacles

By the way, I rewrote the prehensile_penis wiki. It has more/less the same definition but I've added a note on usage to make it more practical for tagging.

• This can only be tagged with tentacles if the tentacles have an end shaped like a penis (ie, penis tentacles)

Usage-wise this basically means "a controllable penis that can bend around things" but it can be used alongside tentacles as well as other penis tags.

parasprite said:
I don't like going ahead and making the decision (particularly when I don't actually have any real authority), but you are right having both does not make sense. I really can't think of a noun adjunct pair more likely to be confused with each other than this.

I will use penis_tentacles with the following assumptions until things are actually set in place:

• Alias: tentacle_penis -> penis_tentacles
• Implication: penis_tentacles -> penis, tentacles
• Implication: crotch_tentacles -> tentacles
• Crotch that has tentacles -> crotch_tentacles
• Tentacles that have penises on the end -> penis_tentacles
• Crotch with tentacles that have penises on the end -> crotch_tentacles + penis_tentacles
• Regular tentacles -> tentacles

By the way, I rewrote the prehensile_penis wiki. It has more/less the same definition but I've added a note on usage to make it more practical for tagging.

Usage-wise this basically means "a controllable penis that can bend around things" but it can be used alongside tentacles as well as other penis tags.

Unless a consensus is reached, or an admin makes a decision, we don't start changing the way things are.
Your assumptions aren't actually ruled on by any admin, and just deciding that's how it will be going forward unless you hear otherwise is not just wrong, it's also incredibly rude.
Particularly when there's still someone disagreeing with you.

Halite said:
Unless a consensus is reached, or an admin makes a decision, we don't start changing the way things are.
Your assumptions aren't actually ruled on by any admin, and just deciding that's how it will be going forward unless you hear otherwise is not just wrong, it's also incredibly rude.
Particularly when there's still someone disagreeing with you.

You're right. I had started sorting a few tags out of impulse but I'm going to back off for now and leave this as a summary of my proposal.

fix'd

NotMeNotYou said:
fix'd

Thanks NMNY, you're awesome.