I would of created a proper alias form for this, but apparently both tags are already aliased to something and it's a little hard to search for it.

but basically
loli -> .loli
shota -> .shota

I think just dropping a period in front should make the tags work
Update: I tested it, it does work.

scratch that, theory out the window. Alias when connected would effect the results

I'm not sure how I feel about this. It might be better to reverse it to preserve the tag itself, as even if we had .loli, entering loli into either Search or URL would still result in the redirect.
See lolipop, pointed out in this thread. It's a tag already aliased to lollipop, but because the search/URL term begins with loli, it does not redirect to its alias.

If .loli were aliased to loli, at least people who know about this would be able to punch in the period to get to the regular tag, as the input itself is what Cloudflare is blocking, not the end result.

MagnusEffect said:
I'm not sure how I feel about this. It might be better to reverse it to preserve the tag itself, as even if we had .loli, entering loli into either Search or URL would still result in the redirect.
(See lolipop, pointed out in this thread )

ya blind guardian pointed that out to me, pooping on my hopes and dreams.

Versperus said:
ya blind guardian pointed that out to me, pooping on my hopes and dreams.

Oh crap, I didn't realise the extra stuff I was typing was an edit.
I'm going to do it again because I don't like doubleposting.

I've gotta wonder exactly what the filter is, because it doesn't block the tag-link URLs, it only blocks the search URLs.
eg.
https://e621.net/post/search?tags=loli will get smacked by Cloudflare, but

Well that went straight out the window halfway through typing.

It's mixed for different tags. Both of
https://e621.net/post/search?tags=loli and https://e621.net/post/index?tags=loli will be stopped by Cloudflare, while for lolita_(fashion), the search link will redirect, but the index link will function.
( https://e621.net/post/search?tags=lolita_(fashion) https://e621.net/post/index?tags=lolita_(fashion) )

So, Cloudflare will block any input that begins with loli and presumably shota, but the direct index links are only blocked if you use loli (and presumably shota) exactly?

MagnusEffect said:
Oh crap, I didn't realise the extra stuff I was typing was an edit.
I'm going to do it again because I don't like doubleposting.

I've gotta wonder exactly what the filter is, because it doesn't block the tag-link URLs, it only blocks the search URLs.
eg.
https://e621.net/post/search?tags=loli will get smacked by Cloudflare, but

Well that went straight out the window halfway through typing.

It's mixed for different tags. Both of
https://e621.net/post/search?tags=loli and https://e621.net/post/index?tags=loli will be stopped by Cloudflare, while for lolita_(fashion), the search link will redirect, but the index link will function.
( https://e621.net/post/search?tags=lolita_(fashion) https://e621.net/post/index?tags=lolita_(fashion) )

So, Cloudflare will block any input that begins with loli and presumably shota, but the direct index links are only blocked if you use loli (and presumably shota) exactly?

yes, which is why I suggest .loli & .shota but with aliasing, it would cause my suggest fix to also be effected by cloudflare as the issue tag would transfer the problems to the suggested one

MagnusEffect said:
I've gotta wonder exactly what the filter is

I bet it's something stupid like

if ( url.match("https://e621.net/post/index/*/loli*") ){
    url="https://e621.net/post/index"
} 

Versperus said:
yes, which is why I suggest .loli & .shota but with aliasing, it would cause my suggest fix to also be effected by cloudflare as the issue tag would transfer the problems to the suggested one

I have limited knowledge about this kinda stuff, but can't there cant be a forced redirection when someone looks up loli to this?

[https://e621.net/post/index/1/ loli]
[https://e621.net/post/index/1/%20loli]

Hell, I'm digging deeper down the rabbit hole and even Gelbooru is like editing out loli.

Sankaku Complex still maintains the ability to search it somehow. Maybe there is something one can learn from that?

Also, I was thinking of other terms to use like Bishounen or Bishoujo, but I don't think they work. I believe they are invalid tags. Romanized rorikon ? Maybe alias loli to rorikon? still leaves out shota though... hmmm...

vex714 said:
I have limited knowledge about this kinda stuff, but can't there cant be a forced redirection when someone looks up loli to this?

[https://e621.net/post/index/1/ loli]
[https://e621.net/post/index/1/%20loli]

Hell, I'm digging deeper down the rabbit hole and even Gelbooru is like editing out loli.

Sankaku Complex still maintains the ability to search it somehow. Maybe there is something one can learn from that?

Also, I was thinking of other terms to use like Bishounen or Bishoujo, but I don't think they work. I believe they are invalid tags. Romanized rorikon ? Maybe alias loli to rorikon? still leaves out shota though... hmmm...

gelbooru is probably hiding it for now due to their legal proceedings

Blind_Guardian said:
gelbooru is probably hiding it for now due to their legal proceedings

Gelbooru in some hot water eh? That's too bad.

I just checked Pixiv. The term still works there at least. ロリ

It just makes me wonder, why would the term be blocked on some sites but not all?

vex714 said:
Gelbooru in some hot water eh? That's too bad.

I just checked Pixiv. The term still works there at least. ロリ

It just makes me wonder, why would the term be blocked on some sites but not all?

They are suing Google, read into for yourself if you're interested. Gelbooru still hosts loli/shota and you can still search for it but now you need to enable an option in your settings to view it. If you search loli or shota there you should be given instructions.

Blind_Guardian said:
They are suing Google, read into for yourself if you're interested. Gelbooru still hosts loli/shota and you can still search for it but now you need to enable an option in your settings to view it. If you search loli or shota there you should be given instructions.

No wonder, the site kept giving me the "nobody here but us chickens" Schtick.

So far it's looking like legal actions because of false DMCA claims and delisting.

Thanks, I'll take a look around some more.

Zenti said:
I bet it's something stupid like

if ( url.match("https://e621.net/post/index/*/loli*") ){
    url="https://e621.net/post/index"
} 

Yeah but there'd have to be a second, non-wildcarded instance somewhere for e621.net/post/index?tags=loli
I'm just going to assume it wasn't considered as important because when you go to change pages it reverts back to /post/index/*/ anyway

vex714 said:
It just makes me wonder, why would the term be blocked on some sites but not all?

Given that the blocking here isn't even consistent there's probably manually-tailored code for specific sites.
Which would imply someone from or under Cloudflare might have had to come here themselves to scope out exactly how to block it, unless there's simply enough information from traffic data for them to make a good guess, or they have access to site code.

Hi, if you ever find this.

Cloudflare can go hilt a traffic cone. Dry.

Looks like you can just go around it with a star. Searching *loli gets you all the results. Pretty crappy code, if its handcrafted for the site, but I guess they can't risk a Scunthrope syndrome.

Iago1 said:
Looks like you can just go around it with a star. Searching *loli gets you all the results. Pretty crappy code, if its handcrafted for the site, but I guess they can't risk a Scunthrope syndrome.

Star does not really work since its wildcard and will include irrelevant results. Just hit space before the search.

Was gonna say but it's for this specific site... "the input itself is what Cloudflare is blocking" made me think they did that for all sites. Doing an end-run around it like with 'porkeymon' is probably not the best of ideas if they crafted it just for one site. But yeah, if that was for all sites.... LOL, easy way to break them. So now I have to test this BS, and see what other sites get hilariously broken if not just this one.

Odd, no problems getting results. Maybe I'm not going through Cloudflare ATM. And yes, this sounds like a not-so-subtle way to kill 'sites I don't like' from the usual suspects. Come up with plausible reasons to coerc companies to stop doing business with you, so they can deplatform everyone different than them. This is mainlander Chinese level conform or else.

And oh man, is Google cruising for a bruising if ReCaptcha V3 works the way they say. XD

vex714 said:
No wonder, the site kept giving me the "nobody here but us chickens" Schtick.

So far it's looking like legal actions because of false DMCA claims and delisting.

Thanks, I'll take a look around some more.

On this topic, is there a way to report content that violates the TOS? I saw nothing about it in the forums or help pages.

Cardboard_Boxers said:
On this topic, is there a way to report content that violates the TOS? I saw nothing about it in the forums or help pages.

Dat hijack tho. Make your own thread please.

MyNameIsOver20charac said:
Cloudflare can go hilt a traffic cone. Dry.

To be fair, we humans are idiots.

So, does aliasing loli to something else actually work?

https://e621.net/post/index/1/%20loli
^this still works, so we can't refer anyone looking for the tag "loli" to the above link?

Also the lolicept tag doesn't work... again.

And I found out Newgrounds is against any nsfw loli content.

vex714 said:
So, does aliasing loli to something else actually work?

https://e621.net/post/index/1/%20loli
^this still works, so we can't refer anyone looking for the tag "loli" to the above link?

Also the lolicept tag doesn't work... again.

And I found out Newgrounds is against any nsfw loli content.

They are?! That's news to me. They have all kinds of NSFW art, games and other such stuff of characters either stated to be or clearly not of age. (from pokemon series to just about everything else) They always have. It's a sad day if even they have fallen to the demands of prudish nitwits and others incapable of telling the difference between fiction/fantasy and reality.. :/

I am going to lock this due to what happened in the last thread, as this thread seems to be taking the same direction. Additionally pointless bump.
I doubt we will be using this solution and we will be looking into a proper solution to the issue.

Original response: forum #279313
Official answer: We are looking into it.

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Cardboard_Boxers said:
On this topic, is there a way to report content that violates the TOS? I saw nothing about it in the forums or help pages.

If you think something is in violation of our Terms of Service, please contact me and I will look into it!
You can do so through this link: https://e621.net/dmail/compose?to=chaser