From time to time I see artists posting their own work here. When I find a post posted by the artist I often take a little bit more time to comment on it because I know it will reach them. Therefore, I would like to suggest creating tag for posts posted by artist themselves.

Something like posted_by_artist would be great!

Any suggestions/comments?

I guess that'd help you find what you're looking for.

I've wondered about if there's a tag for this (though for other reasons). And I've noticed that we have source_filmmaker tag, which seems to be for when an animated work is being uploaded by the artist themselves. (or at least I'm assuming that's what it means, it has no wiki so I'm guessing here). But that's just for animated works, what about everything else?

But since we have that, I've wondered about using something like "source_uploader" (similar tag format) for when it's the artist/character owner who's uploading it themselves. But I honestly like posted_by_artist better. It's a little more clear and unambiguous. Maybe we could also have posted_by_commissioner for when it's the character owner who's uploading it?

Just in case anyone's wondering what the point of having a tag for this would be:

• It's useful for the reasons blackest_vulture suggested.

But also for identifying when an artist or character owner is actually on the site, helping to link their work with them more directly, especially if they don't have quite the same username in both places.
It's also useful to note when they're uploading directly to the site because they might not have any external source to put in the source box, and if it has this tag then source-finders would know that there may not actually be a better source available.
OR the external source is created after uploading here and isn't actually where our site's version of the image came from, helping to explain why it's different. (Like an artist who uploads here and then later creates an FA account. If so, then e621 might actually have a higher quality version than the auto-downsized one on their FA. Again, it would let source finders have a bit more info to go off of that yes, it is a bigger version than the source, but no that doesn't mean there's a missing source out there waiting to be tracked down. The source in those rare times isn't traditionally linkable, and this helps communicate that it's the uploader who uploaded it directly here. Very valuable information for sourcing.)

So a tag like this could be useful for several different reasons.

ETA: source_filmmaker is actually a program name, so the instances I saw were either mistakes or coincidences. All the more reason why posted_by_artist and posted_by_commissioner would make better tags then.

furrypickle said:
I've wondered about if there's a tag for this (though for other reasons). And I've noticed that we have source_filmmaker tag, which seems to be for when an animated work is being uploaded by the artist themselves. (or at least I'm assuming that's what it means, it has no wiki so I'm guessing here). But that's just for animated works, what about everything else?

Nah, actually Pickle, Source Filmmaker is a tag used to describe any post (Often animations) which have been created in Source Filmmaker. A powerful and relatively new program released by Valve which allows for detailed and high quality animation, often utilizing models from videogames.

I'll try and create a wiki entry when I'm not as deprived of sleep.
Edit: Done.
Your others points are solid btw.

Peekaboo said:
Nah, actually Pickle, Source Filmmaker is a tag used to describe any post (Often animations) which have been created in Source Filmmaker. A powerful and relatively new program released by Valve which allows for detailed and high quality animation, often utilizing models from videogames.

I'll try and create a wiki entry when I'm not as deprived of sleep.
Your others points are solid btw.

Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification. It really does need a wiki then. I'll strike out the relevant parts so as not to mislead anyone by accident. lol
Thanks for the feedback by the way!

IMO this should not be a tag but a function of E621, to associate an account with one or more artist tags, and then colour the 'posted by' name specially if one of the artist tags is associated with the account posting the image.

savageorange said:
IMO this should not be a tag but a function of E621, to associate an account with one or more artist tags, and then colour the 'posted by' name specially if one of the artist tags is associated with the account posting the image.

This would make the takedown form easier if, instead of giving a confirmation every time, you merely give confirmation that you are the source artist and that links to your account.

Ko-san said:
This would make the takedown form easier if, instead of giving a confirmation every time, you merely give confirmation that you are the source artist and that links to your account.

This would kinda allow a lot of images to suddenly disappear if an artist rage quits the fandom or something :o

I dunno

CamKitty said:
This would kinda allow a lot of images to suddenly disappear if an artist rage quits the fandom or something :o

I dunno

It's no different from an artist requesting to be added to the DNP. They still have to file the form, it just makes verification easier.

I don't think this should be a tag, but I wouldn't mind having this a site feature (maybe color the "uploaded by:" name in the artist-tag color when the artist tag is linked to the account of the uploader).

NotMeNotYou said:
I don't think this should be a tag, but I wouldn't mind having this a site feature (maybe color the "uploaded by:" name in the artist-tag color when the artist tag is linked to the account of the uploader).

I suggested a tag because It was easier to implement. If there was a fancy feature, better.

But even with the account linked to the tag, there would be no way to find art posted by the original artist in the search.

I feel like what you want is a way to tell when something is original content.

spight said:
I feel like what you want is a way to tell when something is original content.

Kind of. I think of "original content" as meaning "this isn't sonic fanart, this is actually made out of whole cloth from someone's imagination". While I think what we're looking for here is a way to tell if something is more "ground zero" or "directly linked to the point of origin". So when something was uploaded by the same person who made/commissioned it, instead of by someone else. Because some of these artists and commissioners are on here, but most of the time we don't realise or don't know how to find them. If you see a picture by mot the artist, being uploaded by mot the e621 user, then if you happen to notice that detail it's a pretty safe guess that it's a case of being uploaded by the artist themselves. But sometimes an artist has more than one name and so it isn't always obvious when they're uploading their own work. Or if they picked a random username for here, but identify themselves in the descriptions, comments, and other communications. It would be nice to keep track of that information.

I do like the idea of making it a feature instead of a tag. However, if we do it by linking accounts then this could cause problems if they ever upload anything they didn't actually make themselves. Say an artist uploads 80% their own content, but someone gifted them some art for their birthday and they upload that as well. If it's an auto-feature for everything they upload, then exceptions will get mis-identified and that could cause problems. Just because some of a user's uploads are their own content, doesn't therefore mean that all of their uploads will be their own content. They may upload art they commissioned. They may upload art of their character. They may upload art they did themselves some of the time, but also upload art they found and got permission from other artists to upload here. (Just like the rest of us). So even though it sounds like a good way to handle it on the surface, it could actually cause major issues to auto-link it. So unless it's like a ticky box in the editing screen to turn it on and off based on if it applies this time or not...otherwise I'm not sure if there's a practical way to make it a feature.

At the very least, a tag wouldn't have that problem because a tag could easily be applied to only the posts it fits, and left off the posts it doesn't fit. I see this as an advantage.

I agree with everything furrypickle said except attaching the same rights to the commissioner. Commissioners did not draw the pic, I feel it should not be much different if they upload it or not, the work was from the artist lol.

Linking accounts is a dangerous idea. It kinda assumes everything they upload is theirs which may not be true all the time. Maybe, if they are "contributor" or whatever there is a box they can check saying "this is my own" or something, which would colour it as NMNY said

furrypickle said:
Just because some of a user's uploads are their own content, doesn't therefore mean that all of their uploads will be their own content. They may upload art they commissioned. They may upload art of their character. They may upload art they did themselves some of the time, but also upload art they found and got permission from other artists to upload here. (Just like the rest of us).

People could do that. But those other uploads would not be tagged with their artist tag, only as uploaded by them, so why would you expect auto linking to kick in?

The feature I proposed and NotMeNotYou supported would only kick in when [an artist tag is present on the image] AND [it was uploaded by an account associated with that artist tag]. It's not as if the artist tag would be automatically applied to all uploads from that account.

The multiple-names thing might be an issue, you would have to talk to Tony or someone else familiar with the database setup to be sure. I would expect that multiple-user-accounts-associated-with-one-artist-tag is fine, but multiple-artist-tags-associated-with-one-user-account would be a bit slower.

If there is any criticism you have pointing out problems with the proposal that was actually made, I'd love to hear it.

CamKitty: I don't know what I or NotMeNotYou have said that provokes this misunderstanding of the circumstances of linking, but see above.

Regarding commissioning -- AFAICS the situation is that artists own the work and grant a license to use it to the commissioner. We don't currently tag commissioners, and as far as I understand no one is proposing to change this.

Don't have much to add as everything I thought of has already been said, but I just wanted to say that I like the 'artist uploaded' feature.