I am trying to figure out how to work this horrible tagging system. I need to tag my img with my name here. It's not letting me and i'm getting fed up with my character saying "timber".

How the hell do you work this crappy system?

Sylversin said:
I am trying to figure out how to work this horrible tagging system. I need to tag my img with my name here. It's not letting me and i'm getting fed up with my character saying "timber".

How the hell do you work this crappy system?

Char:timber_(character)

It shouldn't matter unless you have or are planning on having multiple pics with your character though.

Also, you should try reading the help and rules.

thank you and name_(artist) right?
sorry for the irritation

Sylversin said:
I am trying to figure out how to work this horrible tagging system. I need to tag my img with my name here. It's not letting me and i'm getting fed up with my character saying "timber".

How the hell do you work this crappy system?

Spaces between words make things separate tags. You use underscores to make_multiple_word_tags. Timber is apparently the name of some other character, I'm gonna guess you put "timber wolf" instead of "timber_wolf" so it put both words separately instead of one single tag. Your artist name was there but you needed to put "artist:" in front of it like so "artist:sylversin" (no spaces) in order to make it an artist tag since it's the first time. So now it's sylversin_(artist) and from now on all you need to do is type that just like that and it will automatically put it in the artist tag spot. I also made the character a tag, and removed the "timber" and re-put "timber_wolf" which I'm guessing is what you wanted. I also took the individual words "kendo's" "love" "series" and turned them into kendo's_love_series which I think is what you wanted it to do. Hopefully that sorted out the worst of it. It's not too hard, just takes some getting used to. Most of the frustrating behavior was from not using underscores_between_words_in_the_same_tag. So rememebr to do that in future and you should be fine.

furrypickle said:
Spaces between words make things separate tags. You use underscores to make_multiple_word_tags. Timber is apparently the name of some other character, I'm gonna guess you put "timber wolf" instead of "timber_wolf" so it put both words separately instead of one single tag. Your artist name was there but you needed to put "artist:" in front of it like so "artist:sylversin" (no spaces) in order to make it an artist tag since it's the first time. So now it's sylversin_(artist) and from now on all you need to do is type that just like that and it will automatically put it in the artist tag spot. I also made the character a tag, and removed the "timber" and re-put "timber_wolf" which I'm guessing is what you wanted. I also took the individual words "kendo's" "love" "series" and turned them into kendo's_love_series which I think is what you wanted it to do. Hopefully that sorted out the worst of it. It's not too hard, just takes some getting used to. Most of the frustrating behavior was from not using underscores_between_words_in_the_same_tag. So rememebr to do that in future and you should be fine.

thank you thank you. whats parent post mean?

Sylversin said:
thank you thank you. whats parent post mean?

Parent is a way of linking more than one version of a picture to each other. The original one is usually listed at the 'parent' and then the link to it is displayed on the left above the tag list and search bar when you're viewing the picture. The picture that is linked to the 'parent' post is called a 'child' post. You can see it in action here: https://e621.net/post/show/531560

Usually it's for when two or three images are related (before and after, clothed and then nude versions of the same picture, with cum and then without cum of same picture) etc. That way people viewing one know there's another one that's similar and can easily view both if they want. Most of the time it's just left blank because it's only needed some times.

And no problem. Welcome to e621!

furrypickle said:
Parent is a way of linking more than one version of a picture to each other. The original one is usually listed at the 'parent' and then the link to it is displayed on the left above the tag list and search bar when you're viewing the picture. The picture that is linked to the 'parent' post is called a 'child' post. You can see it in action here: https://e621.net/post/show/531560

Usually it's for when two or three images are related (before and after, clothed and then nude versions of the same picture, with cum and then without cum of same picture) etc. That way people viewing one know there's another one that's similar and can easily view both if they want. Most of the time it's just left blank because it's only needed some times.

alright. now how would i go about uploading a story here?

Sylversin said:
alright. now how would i go about uploading a story here?

A.. story?

you can only upload pictures

Sylversin said:
alright. now how would i go about uploading a story here?

I don't think we host text files. I think the best you can do is to upload the story elsewhere and then link to it in the description of the picture it's an illustration of. But if it's not about any picture here, then you'll have use another site for the story anyways. There's actually quite a few sites that do allow you to upload stories, so you'll have plenty to choose from. We're just image-centric here is all. =/

furrypickle said:
I don't think we host text files. I think the best you can do is to upload the story elsewhere and then link to it in the description of the picture it's an illustration of. But if it's not about any picture here, then you'll have use another site for the story anyways. There's actually quite a few sites that do allow you to upload stories, so you'll have plenty to choose from. We're just image-centric here is all. =/

what about uploading a picture that says "story" with the basic tags then putting the story in description?

Sylversin said:
what about uploading a picture that says "story" with the basic tags then putting the story in description?

Nope

You don't need to use the tag prefixes everytime you upload an image. Just add the artist, species or character tag and it will be added automatically.

Sylversin said:
what about uploading a picture that says "story" with the basic tags then putting the story in description?

You wouldn't put "story" in the tags, because there's no story in the image.

JoeX said:
You wouldn't put "story" in the tags, because there's no story in the image.

that is not what i ment.

Sylversin said:
what about uploading a picture that says "story" with the basic tags then putting the story in description?

That can work. Depends on how long the story is. But you can try it.

Though if you do that, put

[section] at the very start of the story and then [/section] 

at the very end of the story. That way it will become an expandable section, so people can click it to view the story and read it, but don't have a large amount of text automatically there and can collapse it out of the way when they're done reading. It makes it easier for everyone.

Sylversin said:
that is not what i ment.

Doesn't matter. You'd be tagging "story," which would be invalid, because it's not in the image. We have a tag what you see policy here. If it's not in the image, it doesn't get tagged. Ignoring this rule is not a good idea. You can get in trouble if you do.

Sylversin said:
what about uploading a picture that says "story" with the basic tags then putting the story in description?

I like this guy. :)

spight said:
I like this guy. :)

Goddammit, your avatar is adorable. >.<

JoeX said:
Goddammit, your avatar is adorable. >.<

Rokon Udon :D

Well you can upload an image that you've drawn or commissioned that goes with your story and put the story in the description

I changed the artist tag from sylversin_(artist) to sylversin. Since there's no other tag called sylversin, the disambiguation at the end of the tag isn't necessary. We only use _(artist) or _(character) if there's already a tag with that name, like carrot_(artist).

Also, unfortunately we are not a story hosting site so we deleted your story image. We don't have a problem with stories being in the description field, but the image still has to be something that we would accept as an image on e621.

tony311 said:
I changed the artist tag from sylversin_(artist) to sylversin. Since there's no other tag called sylversin, the disambiguation at the end of the tag isn't necessary. We only use _(artist) or _(character) if there's already a tag with that name, like carrot_(artist).

Also, unfortunately we are not a story hosting site so we deleted your story image. We don't have a problem with stories being in the description field, but the image still has to be something that we would accept as an image on e621.

For what it's worth, the _(artist) part was automatically generated by the new categorization system, adding "Artist:" to the general tag of "sylversin" then automatically created the suffix'd "sylversin_(artist)" version because that's how it's set up to handle brand-new artist tag creation now. So I think only adding the suffix when absolutely necessary has become the old policy and not current policy anymore.

Yep, and that's creating messes left and right.

Just look at the recent tags: https://e621.net/tag?name=*_%28artist%29&type=&order=date&show_empty_tags=1

Same for all other categories. Dunno who's going to have time to go around fixing all those.

Genjar said:
Yep, and that's creating messes left and right.

Just look at the recent tags: https://e621.net/tag?name=*_%28artist%29&type=&order=date&show_empty_tags=1

Same for all other categories. Dunno who's going to have time to go around fixing all those.

*snicker*

Genjar said:
Yep, and that's creating messes left and right.

Just look at the recent tags: https://e621.net/tag?name=*_%28artist%29&type=&order=date&show_empty_tags=1

Same for all other categories. Dunno who's going to have time to go around fixing all those.

Actually, from a discussion with Spight (one of the devs) on the bug thread, he has fixed what was causing that. Unfortunately the mess it left behind needs fixed manually, but no new instances of double or extra _(artist)_(artist) etc should occur. So yeah, there's some cleanup that needs doing, but it should work from now on. I guess it's growing pains, no matter how frustrating they were to go through. However, leaving the suffix off of a brand new artist tag isn't practically possible anymore, so I was just pointing out that seems to be the old way and not how things are done anymore.

Nah, it's not fixed. Some of those were created just minutes ago.

We have a lot of tags with dupes now, such as general tag ardion and ardion_(artist). (Just fixed that one.)

If you are going to upload a story on e6

1) Upload a drawing that we would accept as art.

2) Put the story in the description field as well as all "trigger warnings" for the story there at the beginning.

3) Tag only the IMAGE, NOT THE STORY.

Genjar said:
Nah, it's not fixed. Some of those were created just minutes ago.

We have a lot of tags with dupes now, such as general tag ardion and ardion_(artist). (Just fixed that one.)

Well the adding the _(artist) to the end is the new policy for brand new tags. So yeah, that's still happening.

What I was saying was fixed was the "ardion_(artist)_(artist)" or "bob_(characterowner)_(character)" type of tags that had been happening, those redundant extra extra suffixes shouldn't be happening anymore. And now that you've created ardion (as a character tag) then future instances of artist:ardion should still only put the plain ardion as an artist tag with no suffix. But that's only after it's been established. I'm not saying all the bug are worked out yet, but that specific one should be. Although I think the artist tag was ardidon? because ardion is empty. Either way, it all still applies. Or at least this is my best understanding of how it works now.

Yep. But what I'm saying is that in many cases, because it forces the addition of *_(artist), we end up with two tags for the same artist: one general tag with no suffix, and the artist tag with the suffix.

And the general tags keep accumulating more posts, because users don't generally tag artists with the *_(artist) suffix, or even artist:*.

Therefore those need to be checked and combined regularly, which creates a ton of extra work.

Edit: Also, redundant doubles are still a problem. I just accidentally created kota (charater) (character). There's just too many typos out there. :/

Genjar said:
Yep. But what I'm saying is that in many cases, because it forces the addition of *_(artist), we end up with two tags for the same artist: one general tag with no suffix, and the artist tag with the suffix.

And the general tags keep accumulating more posts, because users don't generally tag artists with the *_(artist) suffix, or even artist:*.

Therefore those need to be checked and combined regularly, which creates a ton of extra work.

Hmm, that is a concern. You could pass that on to spight in the bug report thread, see what he says about it. It does need brought up.

But be sure to obnoxiously insult the entire tagging system first based around your ignorance, it's only e621's lifeblood and the very structure that holds the entire site up. That's definitely a good first step.