Topic: A "Disable Comments" button.

Posted under e621 Tools and Applications

Okay, let's say you are posting a picture, and you don't really like how most people comment on your work. Hit the "Disable Comments" button and that easily goes away. Hit it again to re-allow it.

Or maybe you're posting something and somebody keeps stalking your posts and downvoting them, or flagging them, or just posting report-worthy comments and you get upset about having to deal with the report-worthy comments. Just hit that button, and BAM, everything is okay.

Or maybe disable buttons for multiple things, like notes, or changes to the description or source, that only the uploader can change.
And maybe the uploader can add the artist to the roster of people who can change them, and admins/mods can bypass them.

This is just me spitting out random ideas.
If you think they're stupid, well then, don't be shy, i wanna hear it to my face.
Not gonna judge or anything.

Updated by furrypickle

Or maybe just an option for the comment disabling button, where you choose who can/cannot comment. Like staff, privaledged, or public, and maybe specific names of who cannot comment on your post individually.
And perhaps a button to go with it that will put the options you picked on all/selected/new from then posts.

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I think it could be abused by some uploaders/artists.

Negative critic? - Bam, there it goes. And I think that´s the comment vote system is for, too many red arrows and it won´t show up when not clicking the "show hidden comment" button.

+ The community seems to report unpolite comments pretty fast

Updated by anonymous

Those are all bad ideas.
I can't be more against them than I currently am.

I do not want us to turn into FA where butthurt users/artists can act like mini-gods.

Updated by anonymous

Settings -> Comments -> [x] Show Comments
Remove the tick in the box, save, enjoy your comment free e621.net

This aside, we really shouldn't have that, people are free to comment on anything they see and people will have to deal with it like adults.
Or children and report everything, file takedown requests, you all know how this goes.

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Too hugbox.

As NMNY said, people can hide all comments if it bugs them. The site attempts as best it can to punish asshats anyways.

We don't need 3/4s of the images with comments blocked lol

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AKBAR_THE_CORNCOB said:
let's say you are posting a picture, and you don't really like how most people comment on your work

I think it's actually more useful for negative comments to be shown if it is your own work you are posting.

If you are posting your own stuff then obviously you are trying to give something back to the community, and it won't hurt your cause to get some negative feedback now and again, even the harshest of comments can have some useful advice hidden between the lines (even if it was unintentional).

Just use them as a way of finding out what aspects of your work you need to improve on and don't let the abusive minority get to you, the community as a whole doesn't tolerate them for too long anyway.

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DragonFox69 said:
I think it's actually more useful for negative comments to be shown if it is your own work you are posting.

If you are posting your own stuff then obviously you are trying to give something back to the community, and it won't hurt your cause to get some negative feedback now and again, even the harshest of comments can have some useful advice hidden between the lines (even if it was unintentional).

Just use them as a way of finding out what aspects of your work you need to improve on and don't let the abusive minority get to you, the community as a whole doesn't tolerate them for too long anyway.

I want to add onto here to say that constructive feedback should always be appreciated, be it positive or negative.

It's fine to have an opinion, but please keep it as opinion and not "well, this is what I want so you should do that".

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This feature is one of the things I hate most about FA. They love censorship over there, and it's what sets us apart from them.

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ippiki_ookami said:
This feature is one of the things I hate most about FA. They love censorship over there, and it's what sets us apart from them.

This

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I think at some point you have to accept you're part of a community. People will want to participate and interact and add their own thoughts about it through voting, commenting, rating, favoriting. They'll want to add to it and improve accessibility through notes, tags, sources, etc.

If you want to be the only person who gets to play in your own private sandbox, then why on earth are you sharing it in public?

Interactions with others is not something you can control. Sharing is inviting other people to experience and participate in your work on a personal level. What you're proposing is about as anti-social as inviting people over to your house so that they can "ooo" and "ahhh" over the wallpaper, but insisting that they can only walk on the carefully placed area rugs and not the carpet, that they can't touch anything in the room or even sit down, and that they're not allowed to say their opinions out loud or linger too long. And then expecting them to actually want to come over, feel at all welcome, or be happy about it. You can be private and retain all control, or you can be public and share things with others. But you can't control what people want to think or want to do in reaction to your art.

Pretending to invite people just to look and nothing else is basically an attempt to stay in private but then use other people like programmable props who's only value is to boost your ego with what (you hope) would ideally only be compliments. It's just not realistic and it's not nice. You take the risks of playing with others, or you stay home and play alone. It's not much different than real life because we never really leave real life, no matter what medium we use to interact with each other. Anyways, that's my opinion. I don't think those ideas are very good ones. I think they're attempting to interact with people without actually interacting with them, and that is a great way to kill enthusiasm and the sense of community. People just don't stick around very long when they're treated that way.

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Zedee said:
Hiding/blocking comments? Nah, the only feature I'd like to see added would be an "edit" option for your own comments. At least that way you could change any bad grammar, typos or plain dumbness without having to delete it.

Why do people say this? No, really, why.
On all of MY comments i see an edit option.

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AKBAR_THE_CORNCOB said:
Why do people say this? No, really, why.
On all of MY comments i see an edit option.

When people say "comments" on this site, they often mean the comments on images, not forum posts. I just double-checked to make sure it hadn't changed, but you still cannot edit your own comments you've made on images. You can, however, edit your own forum posts. So that's why people say that.

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furrypickle said:
When people say "comments" on this site, they often mean the comments on images, not forum posts. I just double-checked to make sure it hadn't changed, but you still cannot edit your own comments you've made on images. You can, however, edit your own forum posts. So that's why people say that.

Also, the reason because you can't edit your comments on posts is that it could be misused by changing a jackass of a comment to something else when the user who made it noticed that it was reported

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Xch3l said:
Also, the reason because you can't edit your comments on posts is that it could be misused by changing a jackass of a comment to something else when the user who made it noticed that it was reported

Couldn't that be avoided by simply having a line at the bottom of an edited comment stating "Last edited: [timestamp]"? The timestamp would be so you could tell if the comment had actually been edited after the report was made as opposed to someone filing a false report on any old comment that had been edited, and claiming that the person edited it "after" the report had been made.

If you wanted to be extra sure about who was editing what and when, then couldn't it be possible to keep an edit history of the comment that only admins could see?

And couldn't that same logic also be applied against editing forum posts?

Updated by anonymous

Why not just...not look at the comments? It's simple really.

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Xch3l said:
Also, the reason because you can't edit your comments on posts is that it could be misused by changing a jackass of a comment to something else when the user who made it noticed that it was reported

Wouldn't that actually be beneficial in some way?

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Blodsho said:
Couldn't that be avoided by simply having a line at the bottom of an edited comment stating "Last edited: [timestamp]"? The timestamp would be so you could tell if the comment had actually been edited after the report was made as opposed to someone filing a false report on any old comment that had been edited, and claiming that the person edited it "after" the report had been made.

If you wanted to be extra sure about who was editing what and when, then couldn't it be possible to keep an edit history of the comment that only admins could see?

And couldn't that same logic also be applied against editing forum posts?

That would be a good idea but the current system, afaik, doesn't allow keeping a secondary record so that isn't viable at the moment, but I'll let tony and/or spight inform us a bit more

Pyke said:
Why not just...not look at the comments? It's simple really.

Yes, that would be the ideal thing to do but, y'know, curiosity may kill the cat...

AKBAR_THE_CORNCOB said:
Wouldn't that actually be beneficial in some way?

For the author? Yes. Like some points have been exposed, it could be useful to fix typos or screwups but if the user is a troll or something, it could say one thing, and after being reported or knowing about, it could edit its comment and act as if nothing happened and, like I said above, the current system doesn't keep track of edits...

Updated by anonymous

Artist here. I agree with this. Would make a brilliant addition to the site.

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Ozelot said:
Artist here. I agree with this. Would make a brilliant addition to the site.

NotMeNotYou said:
Settings -> Comments -> [x] Show Comments
Remove the tick in the box, save, enjoy your comment free e621.net

This aside, we really shouldn't have that, people are free to comment on anything they see and people will have to deal with it like adults.
Or children and report everything, file takedown requests, you all know how this goes.

Updated by anonymous

I honestly don't think that would be such a good idea.

We all want to believe that nobody would abuse the system and ONLY use it for what you said, but remember that you can't spell believe without LIE.

As for editing comments, I would only accept that if their was an edit history for the comments, like on deviantart. That way we'd know if people were abusing it. After all, we don't want people hiding death threats or creepy role-playing with something innocent, thinking they can get away with it...

Updated by anonymous

When it comes to editing comments, why not let them be editable for only a limited period of time, say fifteen minutes? Those wishing to correct typos and grammar or have a sudden bout of commenter's remorse are most likely going to be wanting to edit/delete their comments within that time period. After the 15 minutes are up or if someone replies to our comment, then we'll just have to live with any repercussions.

Inkbunny does similar, but with only a 10 minute grace period.

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Clawstripe said:
When it comes to editing comments, why not let them be editable for only a limited period of time, say fifteen minutes? Those wishing to correct typos and grammar or have a sudden bout of commenter's remorse are most likely going to be wanting to edit/delete their comments within that time period. After the 15 minutes are up or if someone replies to our comment, then we'll just have to live with any repercussions.

Inkbunny does similar, but with only a 10 minute grace period.

You can hide your comments whenever you like. You, and admind, can still see them but no one else...

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Xch3l said:
You can hide your comments whenever you like. You, and admind, can still see them but no one else...

I don't mean hiding them, but having a short grace period in which one can edit their comments.

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Clawstripe said:
I don't mean hiding them, but having a short grace period in which one can edit their comments.

I meant hiding as instead of deleting them

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Xch3l said:
I meant hiding as instead of deleting them

Ah, okay. You were just addressing a part of my post rather than the whole thing. Sorry about misunderstanding.

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Clawstripe said:
Ah, okay. You were just addressing a part of my post rather than the whole thing. Sorry about misunderstanding.

Nah, it's okay... since I'm on my phone, it's a bit annoying to cut text here...

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Clawstripe said:
I don't mean hiding them, but having a short grace period in which one can edit their comments.

You can copy the text, hide the comment, then post the new edited comment...

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Clawstripe said:
When it comes to editing comments, why not let them be editable for only a limited period of time, say fifteen minutes? Those wishing to correct typos and grammar or have a sudden bout of commenter's remorse are most likely going to be wanting to edit/delete their comments within that time period. After the 15 minutes are up or if someone replies to our comment, then we'll just have to live with any repercussions.

Inkbunny does similar, but with only a 10 minute grace period.

I've wondered about this too. But I don't know if it's possible to do that here or not.

In the end, it's not too big of a deal. I just wish "hiding" your own comment didn't turn it into this bright red highlighted box. Because then if I hide my typoed comment to redo it, it just feels like the error now looks ten times worse sitting there in red above my "real" comment, even if I'm one of only a handful of people who can see it. It just looks messy, like seeing double only the 'oops' one is highlighted in red. But there's nothing I can do about it, so I just leave the typos. It's mostly just a minor druther to be honest.

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Mintina_Galaxy said:
...I saw an edit button on my comment, and I added .. to the end of it. Apparently we can already edit comments??? Did this just get added or...?

Forum posts can already be edited. Comments on posts can not.

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Peekaboo said:
Forum posts can already be edited. Comments on posts can not.

Ah, then don't mind my insufferable babbling. Forum posts seem to be more civilized and therefore have the right to be edited.

Comments on posts, on the other hand, not so much.

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furrypickle said:
In the end, it's not too big of a deal. I just wish "hiding" your own comment didn't turn it into this bright red highlighted box. Because then if I hide my typoed comment to redo it, it just feels like the error now looks ten times worse sitting there in red above my "real" comment, even if I'm one of only a handful of people who can see it. It just looks messy, like seeing double only the 'oops' one is highlighted in red. But there's nothing I can do about it, so I just leave the typos. It's mostly just a minor druther to be honest.

There's actually an option in your settings that will hide your own hidden comments, so you won't have to see the red box version.

Though the problem for me is that sometimes I notice the typo long after the fact. Sometimes months later. After other people have responded to it. And then I can't fix it then because how did that guy magically quote a comment that came after his, holy shit.

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Blodsho said:
There's actually an option in your settings that will hide your own hidden comments, so you won't have to see the red box version.

Though the problem for me is that sometimes I notice the typo long after the fact. Sometimes months later. After other people have responded to it. And then I can't fix it then because how did that guy magically quote a comment that came after his, holy shit.

Thank you! Way back before I realised you could hide your own comments, I somehow thought that meant ones hidden because of threshold/negative-votes (which to be honest, I'm often curious and like to read those) and had since forgotten that was even there. This makes me a very happy person now.

About the other thing, the funny thing is I saw that once where the third or fourth comment was quoting a post that seemed to happen about two posts under it. It creates rifts in the space-time continuum!! =P No but seriously, it did make me wonder if the posts were somehow being displayed out of order, so I can see what you mean. It can sometimes have interesting side-effects. lol

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