Requested feature overview description.

The color green that we use for thumbnail borders on parent/child posts should be changed to hex code #006400 (dark green).

Why would it be useful?

To us colorblind individuals, such as myself, it is impossible to tell a parent post from a child post because the shade of green and yellow are indistinguishable from each other. Switching to this darker shade of green will allow us to easily distinguish between the two colors due to the large difference in shade.

What part(s) of the site page(s) are affected?

Pages listing posts that display colored borders for parent/child posts.

We already have letter codes under the post to help all types of color blindness:

U = Unapproved
P = Has Parent Post
C = Has Child Post(s)
F = Is Flagged for Deletion

These are the last letters without a number besides them.

NotMeNotYou said:
We already have letter codes under the post to help all types of color blindness:

U = Unapproved
P = Has Parent Post
C = Has Child Post(s)
F = Is Flagged for Deletion

These are the last letters without a number besides them.

You can't always see the letter code, though, as I demonstrated here. The thumbnail size is just too small to fit all the information. But maybe we could standardize the thumbnails?

@OP could you provide a screenshot of some sort to show the color differences in your suggestion? I'm unfamiliar with hex code.

NotMeNotYou said:
We already have letter codes under the post to help all types of color blindness:

U = Unapproved
P = Has Parent Post
C = Has Child Post(s)
F = Is Flagged for Deletion

These are the last letters without a number besides them.

it still isnt enough since its not on all thumbnails. for example thumbnails linked in comments and such have only color border:
post #1382614

Siral_Exan said:
@OP could you provide a screenshot of some sort to show the color differences in your suggestion? I'm unfamiliar with hex code.

Literally just google #006400
https://www.google.com/search?q=%23006400&oq=%2300&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0l2.2027j0j7&client=ms-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

To be fair I am not even colorblind but about 30% of the time I have trouble differentiating The green and yellow boarders apart.
Also Siikaprinssi has a valid point about the image in comments.
Personally think this change that should be done, in the end all it really does is improve the functionality of the site.

NotMeNotYou said:
We already have letter codes under the post to help all types of color blindness:

U = Unapproved
P = Has Parent Post
C = Has Child Post(s)
F = Is Flagged for Deletion

These are the last letters without a number besides them.

I agree with Siral and siik as well with their points. Unfortunately, the letter codes just aren't enough.

Siral_Exan said:
You can't always see the letter code, though, as I demonstrated here. The thumbnail size is just too small to fit all the information. But maybe we could standardize the thumbnails?

@OP could you provide a screenshot of some sort to show the color differences in your suggestion? I'm unfamiliar with hex code.

Here is a link that shows our current yellow, current green, and suggested green side by side.

https://i.imgur.com/dL1LgDl.png

+1 if it's optional. The current scheme looks just fine to me (then again, I don't have colour blindness) plus dark green will be harder to distinguish from the default blue background than bright green. Also, not everyone with colour blindness has the same colour blindness so additional schemes would have to be available for the others.

I've looked at a colour blindness simulator, it does appear we have various things that are indistinguishable.
Perhaps a colour blindness mode that is choose-able from the theme settings? It shouldn't be too hard to implement.

If you want colors that are distinct, use common metro line colors. Such as London's. Those are typically planned so that the colors can be distinguished, regardless of the type of color blindness.

AlricKyznetsov said:
Requested feature overview description.

The color green that we use for thumbnail borders on parent/child posts should be changed to hex code #006400 (dark green).

Why would it be useful?

To us colorblind individuals, such as myself, it is impossible to tell a parent post from a child post because the shade of green and yellow are indistinguishable from each other. Switching to this darker shade of green will allow us to easily distinguish between the two colors due to the large difference in shade.

What part(s) of the site page(s) are affected?

Pages listing posts that display colored borders for parent/child posts.

i literally cannot see green and have no issues

kamimatsu said:
i literally cannot see green and have no issues

you do know that theres different kinds of color blindness and different people have troubles with different colors, right?

kamimatsu said:
i literally cannot see green and have no issues

Good for you? I have obscenely good color vision and can distinguish basically any colors easily. But I recognize that that's not the case for everyone and I haven't got an issue with helping people who do have problems. Which, AlricKyznetsov said they have a problem, so... I trust them at their word?

kamimatsu said:
i literally cannot see green and have no issues

I can not distinguish blue from purple nor can I distinguish light green from yellow.

I have a decreased number of red receptors in my eyes, which is the cause of my colorblindness. You likely have decreased (or absence) of green receptors in your eyes.

AlricKyznetsov said:
I can not distinguish blue from purple nor can I distinguish light green from yellow.

I have a decreased number of red receptors in my eyes, which is the cause of my colorblindness. You likely have decreased (or absence) of green receptors in your eyes.

FWIW, color-blindness doesn't have to be caused by a decrease in the amount of cone cells, the most common types of color-blindness are actually caused by the cell patterns on the retina putting certain receptors too close together, causing interference (red and green light receptors inhibit each other in normal vision, and the more common variants of red-green color-blindness are caused by this mechanism not working correctly).

Back on topic, though, while I wouldn't personally mind such a change, I don't think the current proposition of #006400 would be a good idea, since it makes those borders hard to notice against the default blue background on pretty much all images.

Fifteen said:

Back on topic, though, while I wouldn't personally mind such a change, I don't think the current proposition of #006400 would be a good idea, since it makes those borders hard to notice against the default blue background on pretty much all images.

It stands out well for me, but I'm not sure how it looks for normal sighted people. Perhaps it could be a selectable option, instead of a site-wide default?

AlricKyznetsov said:
It stands out well for me, but I'm not sure how it looks for normal sighted people. Perhaps it could be a selectable option, instead of a site-wide default?

That is actually what Chaser suggested and said it shouldn't be too hard to implement. Who knows he might be looking into making it an option right this minute, or talking with the other admins about it.

United_Gamers said:
To be fair I am not even colorblind but about 30% of the time I have trouble differentiating The green and yellow boarders apart.

I hate to bring doubt upon you, but those colors are, to me, pretty different. Colorblindness is an awful name, by the way. it implies that there is an absence of color. When I was growing up, I literally thought my dad couldn't see green things. :) It's more of a ... color tint. Like if you wear sunglasses (especially with colored lenses), it can be hard to determine some colors actually are. or an old black and white TV show. You can make guesses, but to the camera--your eye--those two shades look a lot alike.

It's also not a off-or-on thing. There are different kinds of color blindness: red-green is the most common: it generally means that reds and greens look similar. I once showed my husband a picture of a really striking field of red grass Google image search for "panjin china" for the sort of thing I mean~.... and he was confused. It looked like regular grass to him.. but some people have trouble with yellows and blues, for example!

Past that, you can be 'a little color blind' just like some people can be a 'little nearsighted'... I have another friend who is.... amazingly colorblind. like.. I'm pretty sure they mostly see the world in shades of reddish. They are amazingly wrong whenever they guess what a color is unless it's red. I have another friend who thought they were fine until they took a test and realized that they were a little colorblind!

So.... you might wanna have a look at a colorblindness test. enchroma has a pretty neat one on their website (and will try to sell you a pair of glasses to help)

The test might seem silly at first, but stick with it. most people can see the first several without a problem <3

Again, I don't mean to bring doubt upon you, but... well, you only have about 2 minutes to lose. :)

SnowWolf said:

So.... you might wanna have a look at a colorblindness test. enchroma has a pretty neat one on their website (and will try to sell you a pair of glasses to help)

Just to add on to this, if you find out that you have some problems with the test, just mention it to your eye doctor next time you have an appointment. Computer screens aren't color calibrated, so they can really throw off these tests. Having the proper test done IRL will help you figure it out better.

That site lists me as being a strong protan, but I typically don't have trouble telling red from green.

TL;DR: Take the website with a grain of salt and maybe talk to your doctor about it

SnowWolf said:
I hate to bring doubt upon you

Nah I probably might have as well and offered the same information from my won side of things.

AlricKyznetsov said:
Computer screens aren't color calibrated

Thats part of the reason I said 30%(7 out of 10 times I see normally.) I was taking into account external factors such as possible bad monitor, how much its tilted in one direction, possibly messed up/changed settings, the way I sit and if I lean back. That said I could have some sort of color reading problem so who knows.

SnowWolf said:
So.... you might wanna have a look at a colorblindness test. enchroma has a pretty neat one on their website (and will try to sell you a pair of glasses to help)

AlricKyznetsov said:
Having the proper test done IRL will help you figure it out better.

TL;DR: Take the website with a grain of salt and maybe talk to your doctor about it

Thanks, I'll actually check into this, and ask my doc next time I see em. Think its better to know then not ya know?

AlricKyznetsov said:
Just to add on to this, if you find out that you have some problems with the test, just mention it to your eye doctor next time you have an appointment. Computer screens aren't color calibrated, so they can really throw off these tests. Having the proper test done IRL will help you figure it out better.

That site lists me as being a strong protan, but I typically don't have trouble telling red from green.

TL;DR: Take the website with a grain of salt and maybe talk to your doctor about it

These are very good points! :)

United_Gamers said:
Nah I probably might have as well and offered the same information from my won side of things.

Thats part of the reason I said 30%(7 out of 10 times I see normally.) I was taking into account external factors such as possible bad monitor, how much its tilted in one direction, possibly messed up/changed settings, the way I sit and if I lean back. That said I could have some sort of color reading problem so who knows.

That's a fair point. I mostly use the same computer and same monitors in the same place all the time, so I didn't really give the idea of environmental factors much thought :)

Thanks, I'll actually check into this, and ask my doc next time I see em. Think its better to know then not ya know?

I'm glad you agree :)

Hope everything goes smoothly and comfortably :)

(also, I'm sure a normal doctor could do this sort of thing, but everyone *should* get regular eye exams too, even if you don't think you have any trouble seeing things. It can tell you important things about your health, as well as keeping tabs on the natural degradation that happens to everyone's eyes over time.)