Topic: Mistakenly Locked Tags + Suggestion

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

The post I'm referring to is this one.

https://e621.net/post/show/1411552

The tags for balls, intersex, and related have been locked despite clear visibility of testicles in panel 2 of the comic. In addition the character itself is intersex yet the female tag is locked in place. I understand the whole "tag what you see" deal, and I'm not pointing this out because the character is intersex. I'm pointing it out because of that AND the fact that there are visible testicles in panel two, in which case 'tag what you see' warrants the tagging of balls and a replacement of the female tag with intersex.

On another note, I feel there should be a policy in place for situations like this. If a character is present in a large comic that spans several pages, let alone several dozen, then the tags applied to that character should be consistent on each page of the comic they appear on. For example if a character's genitalia are visible on one page of a comic, and then not visible due to the position they're in on the next page, then the character shouldn't be tagged as a different gender because that post is part of a larger whole in which they were already clearly depicted as a specific gender elsewhere in the pool. A standalone image of the character with no visible genitalia may have its gender tagged as its seen, which could be incorrect but that's fine. That's what you see. However picking and choosing specific posts in a pool to tag the gender of a character incorrectly on comic pages where you can't see its genitalia, and then correctly on others where you can see the genitalia, is inconsistent and misleading.

That suggestion is just my opinion however and I'm not attacking specific genders or preferences. It just makes no sense to me to tag a group of directly related images so inconsistently.

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Firestar said:
If a character is present in a large comic that spans several pages, let alone several dozen, then the tags applied to that character should be consistent on each page of the comic they appear on.

Agree and disagree. If I'm following a comic and reading every page, it makes sense to tag consistently. But if I'm looking for a specific type of image, and a single page of a comic appears because only one page matches what I'm looking for, I want it to be case-by-case.

In the example you gave, someone might blacklist intersex but might enjoy the page(s) where the intersex aspect isn't clear. It's more work to tag each page "inconsistently" (from the character's perspective) but with the rule in place for TWYS on a page by page basis, the tags are more honest/true for each individual page.

Another example would be if you don't want to see snakes, but like horses. In a comic with a horse and a snake character, there might be a single large frame image that's entirely of the snake, but you can see a little of the horse's shoulder. Someone tagging horse for consistency is doing you a disservice because the image is not really a horse at all, just a snake which you didn't want to see.

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Rowan_Bojog said:
Agree and disagree. If I'm following a comic and reading every page, it makes sense to tag consistently. But if I'm looking for a specific type of image, and a single page of a comic appears because only one page matches what I'm looking for, I want it to be case-by-case.

In the example you gave, someone might blacklist intersex but might enjoy the page(s) where the intersex aspect isn't clear. It's more work to tag each page "inconsistently" (from the character's perspective) but with the rule in place for TWYS on a page by page basis, the tags are more honest/true for each individual page.

This.

Rowan_Bojog said:
Another example would be if you don't want to see snakes, but like horses. In a comic with a horse and a snake character, there might be a single large frame image that's entirely of the snake, but you can see a little of the horse's shoulder. Someone tagging horse for consistency is doing you a disservice because the image is not really a horse at all, just a snake which you didn't want to see.

Less so, this. You still tag things for characters that aren't fully visible. On the other hand, all you can tag for just a shoulder would be...aspects of that shoulder. Anthro for sure. Fur colors, too. Not species, though, because-again-all you can see is the shoulder. It would, however, mean you can't add the solo tag.

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Jacob said:
You still tag things for characters that aren't fully visible. On the other hand, all you can tag for just a shoulder would be...aspects of that shoulder. Anthro for sure. Fur colors, too. Not species, though, because-again-all you can see is the shoulder. It would, however, mean you can't add the solo tag.

I agree with all of this. A shoulder should get tags as appropriate, but shouldn't appear in someone's search for horses.

Updated by anonymous

What about the original point of the thread though, with the locked tags? What are your opinions on that?

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Firestar said:
What about the original point of the thread though, with the locked tags? What are your opinions on that?

I wouldn't recognize those as balls if I didn't know that they are supposed to be balls, and it looks more like just pussy.

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