So vore is a pretty popular fetish (not personally my thing, but I like having tags for everything), and while trying to come up with a tag for multiple characters having sex inside another one, I was made to realize that all tags related to vore and sex are... weird.

For the better or worse, we currently have 3 tags covering many cases of this :

• sex_inside, which, as stated above, covers 2 or more characters having sex while inside another, correlated with the also oddly-named multiple_inside/multiple_prey (and possibly voreception)
• in_utero_penetration, which covers having sex with a character that is inside another one's womb, either from being unborn or having been unbirthed. The latter case is highly correlated with living_condom.
• vore_sex, which describes having sex (penetrative or otherwise) with someone in the process of being vored (unclear as to what sorts of vore count or not, may overlap with others), by the predator or by another party.

That's 3 tags with no common naming patterns, each involving a number of other tags, none of which are official enough to have implications to or from anything. In_utero_penetration also has turducken_position aliased to it, even though the name for that tag would seem to imply something closer to what living condom is supposed to be about, possibly vore_sex as well, depending on how it's defined.

It's clear all those tags need to be reworked into something that makes enough sense to be reliably tagged with no ambiguities. I'm still figuring out a way to make all the concepts covered by this fit together, but does anyone else have opinions or ideas on how the tags for this should be organized?

Fifteen said:
So vore is a pretty popular fetish (not personally my thing, but I like having tags for everything), and while trying to come up with a tag for multiple characters having sex inside another one, I was made to realize that all tags related to vore and sex are... weird.

If you want to tag multiple characters having sex inside another, you'd use sex_inside and multiple_inside.

If a character is being penetrated while being fucked into an ass, that's anal_vore and living_condom.

As it's currently defined, vore_sex is largely useless, as it could apply to literally any image containing both vore and sex. Off the bat, I'd suggest changing it to mid-vore_sex (and alias mid_vore_sex to get that bugbear out of the way), using to refer to sexual acts occurring while one character is partially inside another. Some more sub-tags would be useful, but I can't think of any that wouldn't also be fairly ambiguous. Possibly penetration_while_swallowing or vore_while_penetrating / vore_while_penetrated? The latter two are still somewhat confusing as to who is performing the "vore"...

might actually be a valuable parent-tag for in_utero_penetration and other sex acts that involve penetrating both predator and prey at the same time. The most unpleasant among those (i.e the kind any sane man would want to blacklist) should also be tagged with sex_with_fetus or something similar.

anonymousanalogue said:
If you want to tag multiple characters having sex inside another, you'd use sex_inside and multiple_inside.

That's the thing, Genjar has already expressed distaste for those 2 tags and I kinda het him. He's suggested using internal_sex instead of sex_inside, bacause it coincides with an internal view. With that said, it's not 100% clear from the name alone whether the tag describes something more like the image on the left or the one one the right :

post #754195 post #1518232

multiple_inside can probably just be merged with multiple_prey.

If a character is being penetrated while being fucked into an ass, that's anal_vore and living_condom.

I was under the impression that it's actually what turducken_position was supposed to describe. Stuff like this :
post #1579117

Whether or not the one being vored has to be completely inside for it to count, though, I'm really not sure.

As it's currently defined, vore_sex is largely useless, as it could apply to literally any image containing both vore and sex. Off the bat, I'd suggest changing it to mid-vore_sex (and alias mid_vore_sex to get that bugbear out of the way), using to refer to sexual acts occurring while one character is partially inside another. Some more sub-tags would be useful, but I can't think of any that wouldn't also be fairly ambiguous. Possibly penetration_while_swallowing or vore_while_penetrating / vore_while_penetrated? The latter two are still somewhat confusing as to who is performing the "vore"...

Vore sex could very well just be an umbrella tag for some if not all of those things? penetration_while_swallowing implies something that specifically targets oral vore, which *could* be acceptable if we have something like turducken_position covering the anal and vaginal cases.

turducken_penetration

might actually be a valuable parent-tag for in_utero_penetration and other sex acts that involve penetrating both predator and prey at the same time. The most unpleasant among those (i.e the kind any sane man would want to blacklist) should also be tagged with sex_with_fetus or something similar.

Yeah, that's the odd one out, the only one that doesn't *have* to imply vore. I'm still not 100% sure on that one.

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The way I currently see it (though we should probably refine the names a bit), we'd have both a penetration_while_swallowing and a turducken_position tag to cover sex with someone in the process of being vored, a different tag for someone being penetrated from inside someone else, by someone outside (a more general case of in_utero_penetration, would probably have something to do with living condom) and another tag for what sex_inside currently covers.

multiple_inside can be aliased or even just have its content moved to multiple_prey.

Fifteen said:
The way I currently see it (though we should probably refine the names a bit), we'd have both a penetration_while_swallowing and a turducken_position tag to cover sex with someone in the process of being vored, a different tag for someone being penetrated from inside someone else, by someone outside (a more general case of in_utero_penetration, would probably have something to do with living condom) and another tag for what sex_inside currently covers.

multiple_inside can be aliased or even just have its content moved to multiple_prey.

+1. We'd wind up with a tree something like this, although some more elegant slugs are well in order. Not all of the links would warrant an implication due to a few niggling exceptions (those damn pregnancy fetishists), but it makes pretty good organizational sense.

• vore_sex - Instances of vore and sex in the same image.
• vore_spitroast - Similar to living_condom, when a third party penetrates prey as they are consumed headfirst.
• predator_on_prey - The remaining majority of instances, where a predator penetrates or masturbates their prey.
• multiple_prey
• internal_sex
• sex_in_stomach
• sex_in_uterus
• sex_in_anus
• meta_penetration - Refers to penetrating a character, and then the character inside them.
• in_utero_penetration
• sex_with_unborn_child
• you_sick_fuck
• living_condom

Increased use of terms like "pred" and "prey" when describing vore should lead to a re-evaluation of predator/prey as a species pairings. Something like carnivorous_pairing might work instead, with predator/prey as a disambiguation page until people have gotten the hang of it.

anonymousanalogue said:
+1. We'd wind up with a tree something like this, although some more elegant slugs are well in order. Not all of the links would warrant an implication due to a few niggling exceptions (those damn pregnancy fetishists), but it makes pretty good organizational sense.

• vore_sex - Instances of vore and sex in the same image.
• vore_spitroast - Similar to living_condom, when a third party penetrates prey as they are consumed headfirst.
• predator_on_prey - The remaining majority of instances, where a predator penetrates or masturbates their prey.
• multiple_prey
• internal_sex
• sex_in_stomach
• sex_in_uterus
• sex_in_anus
• meta_penetration - Refers to penetrating a character, and then the character inside them.
• in_utero_penetration
• sex_with_unborn_child
• you_sick_fuck
• living_condom

Increased use of terms like "pred" and "prey" when describing vore should lead to a re-evaluation of predator/prey as a species pairings. Something like carnivorous_pairing might work instead, with predator/prey as a disambiguation page until people have gotten the hang of it.

Not sold on the naming of meta_penetration specifically. vore_spitroast is an interesting tag choice, and definitely gives a better mental picture than any of the alternatives I could think of thus far. I'm still really against sex_in_anus, and I'd actually prefer we keep it as just sex_in_uterus and sex_in_stomach for when either place is identifiable, and leave it as a generic internal_sex otherwise.

I'd advise against filing living_condom under anything right now, considering it's already well established as a synonymous to living_fleshlight (or cocksleeve), and I'm actually not sure we'd even need to do that with a tag in the position you want meta_penetration to fulfill.

That only leaves sex_with_unborn_child as the exception that makes it impossible to have meta_penetration as a subtag of vore_sex, which makes it seem incomplete... But that aside, yeah, that looks like a pretty good tag tree.