Topic: The warhammer franchise tags are all out of whack

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Alright, starting with the 3 Warhammer 40k tags, we have:
warhammer_40000
warhammer_40k
wh40k

These are all aliased to the warhammer_(franchise) tag, but they shouldn't be. 40k is a branch of the Warhammer Franchise, not the franchise itself, so the 3 tags listed above should be aliased to eachother, de-aliased from warhammer_(franchise), and then implicated to warhammer_(franchise).

Then we've got warhammer_fantasy, which should just be implicated to warhammer_(franchise).

Also, skaven should be implicated to warhammer_fantasy.

That should keep skaven from popping up when you type in "warhammer_40k", and make the Warhammer franchise tags nice & tidy.

Updated by Dyrone

+1
I only just started getting into warhammer 40k, but that all sounds right to me.

Updated by anonymous

I made a rather lengthy post about Warhammer over a year ago because the tags are a mess. Guess they're still a mess.

Maybe my post was too ambitious so it got ignored or whatever...however seeing this brought up again really hammers home (no pun intended) that people don't want to search for 40k images and end up with a bunch of images from Warhammer fantasy. At the very least those tags should be unscrambled.

Personally I think the franchises should become 2 tags: warhammer_40k and warhammer_fantasy with the games_workshop tag as the unifying tag. warhammer_(franchise) would be aliased to games_workshop.

Updated by anonymous

I mean, warhammer_(franchise) has less than 500 tags in it.

This seems like a relatively easy tagging project. I can't do this because my warhammer experience is limited to killing skaven while yelling about HERESY.

Hm.

Okay, I'm pretty exhausted right now. This should be cleaned up.

Though... the warhammer_40000 tag? it doesn't look like it's aliased to anything. wh40k, warhammer_40k have been aliased to warhammer_(franchise) and that doesn't seem right, but warhammer_40000 looks unaliased to me. Needs some implications though.

Maybe I"m missing something though? I am really tired :/

Updated by anonymous

SnowWolf said:
I mean, warhammer_(franchise) has less than 500 tags in it.

This seems like a relatively easy tagging project. I can't do this because my warhammer experience is limited to killing skaven while yelling about HERESY.

Hm.

Okay, I'm pretty exhausted right now. This should be cleaned up.

Though... the warhammer_40000 tag? it doesn't look like it's aliased to anything. wh40k, warhammer_40k have been aliased to warhammer_(franchise) and that doesn't seem right, but warhammer_40000 looks unaliased to me. Needs some implications though.

Maybe I"m missing something though? I am really tired :/

I mean...it's true that one could use the warhammer_40000 tag to circumvent the implications on the other tags, but the average user isn't going to spell warhammer 40k like that when searching...couldn't really hurt tho either.

Updated by anonymous

Games Workshop appears to have changed the name of the "Warhammer Fantasy" portion of their products to "Warhammer Age of Sigmar". Do we want to mirror this change?

If yes I'd do implement Dyrone's suggestions, namely use warhammer_40k (and alias all spellings to that) for the futuristic one, warhammer_age_of_sigmar (and alias warhammer_fantasy to that) for the fantasy portion, then have both imply games_workshop (and alias warhammer_(franchise) to that).

If we don't want to change the name of Warhammer Fantasy then I'd just alias the Age of Sigmar thing to Warhammer Fantasy.

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NotMeNotYou said:
Games Workshop appears to have changed the name of the "Warhammer Fantasy" portion of their products to "Warhammer Age of Sigmar". Do we want to mirror this change?

-1

There's way too much Warhammer Fantasy content that's specifically not Age of Sigmar, which drastically changed a lot of the setting.

It's less of a "they changed the name" situation and more of a "They started a whole new line and immediately discontinued the old product."

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MagnusEffect said:
It's less of a "they changed the name" situation and more of a "They started a whole new line and immediately discontinued the old product."

Like.... should Warhammer_age_of_sigmar be a tag of it's own?

If so, can you describe the nature of the changes and how they would be visually different than warhammer_fantasy?

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SnowWolf said:
Like.... should Warhammer_age_of_sigmar be a tag of it's own?

If so, can you describe the nature of the changes and how they would be visually different than warhammer_fantasy?

In terms of what gets posted here it's probably going to be indistinguishable unless they decide Skaven and Lizardmen need a visual update like some of the other armies have had, which hasn't happened yet.
With the exception of fan-content of things that are explicitly Warhammer Fantasy like vermintide.

In basic story terms Age of Sigmar takes place after Warhammer Fantasy, at the end of which everyone died and now everything takes place in spirit realms separate from the earlier setting.

Speaking of Vermintide, warhammer_vermintide could probably use an alias into vermintide.

Updated by anonymous

MagnusEffect said:
In terms of what gets posted here it's probably going to be indistinguishable unless they decide Skaven and Lizardmen need a visual update like some of the other armies have had, which hasn't happened yet.
With the exception of fan-content of things that are explicitly Warhammer Fantasy like vermintide.

So.... that SOUNDS like we should probably keep warhammer_age_of_sigmar around as a possibility. It doens't hurt if it gets used, after all.

In basic story terms Age of Sigmar takes place after Warhammer Fantasy, at the end of which everyone died and now everything takes place in spirit realms separate from the earlier setting.[/qupte]

omg spoilers /s

Speaking of Vermintide, warhammer_vermintide could probably use an alias into vermintide.

do you mean the other way around? I guess the virimintide is an event... .as well as a game...? I dunno how this ought to work.

Updated by anonymous

SnowWolf said:
do you mean the other way around? I guess the virimintide is an event... .as well as a game...? I dunno how this ought to work.

vermintide

has been what people have been using, though if you go for the full official name it'd be something like warhammer:_the_end_times-vermintide
Which is probably why they just called the sequel "Warhammer: Vermintide 2".

The End Times was the story event they used to build up to the destruction of the setting, though I don't think the term Vermintide exists outside those two games.

On a related note I hadn't realised Skaven doesn't have any form of Warhammer implication. _franchise should be the best fit if there's the possibility of a separate age_of_Sigmar tag, otherwise _franchise
Edit: Whoops, forgot that got brought up in the OP

Updated by anonymous

NotMeNotYou said:
If we don't want to change the name of Warhammer Fantasy then I'd just alias the Age of Sigmar thing to Warhammer Fantasy.

I think this method is best...as I understand it Age of Sigmar is just the latest version/ruleset of Warhammer Fantasy...one day they will probably change that name to something else. Best to just use warhammer_fantasy and alias warhammer_age_of_sigmar, warhammer:_age_of_sigmar, and age_of_sigmar.

Updated by anonymous

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