Topic: Implication: *_(bad_dragon) -> Bad dragon + formatting.

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

https://e621.net/tag?name=*bad*dragon*&type=&order=count

There starts to be more and more bad dragon related tags. There doesn't appear to be much if any implications or aliases between them. So I would almost propose implicating all currently in use _(bad_dragon) ending tags to bad_dragon as well as rest of bad dragon catalog.

Currently most tags are character tags and are format name_(bad_dragon) but problem is that in majority of posts this means the object as didlo, rather than artwork of the character based on didlo. There would be two ways to go about this:
1. Change all of the tag types to copyright, this way all everything related to the didlo or the character are under single tag and are more correct than character tag. On top of this start to use dildo_(bad_dragon) tag more to indicate for posts where the tag is used for didlo specifically.
2. Make seperate tags for character and didlo and have them on seperate tag types. This way it's easier to seperate when there's character and when there's object in the post. However managing and cleaning up will be problematic.

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Mairo said:
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Currently most tags are character tags and are format name_(bad_dragon) but problem is that in majority of posts this means the object as didlo, rather than artwork of the character based on didlo. There would be two ways to go about this:
1. Change all of the tag types to copyright, this way all everything related to the didlo or the character are under single tag and are more correct than character tag. On top of this start to use dildo_(bad_dragon) tag more to indicate for posts where the tag is used for didlo specifically.

2. Make seperate tags for character and didlo and have them on seperate tag types. This way it's easier to seperate when there's character and when there's object in the post. However managing and cleaning up will be problematic.

In terms of clarity, i prefer your 2nd suggestion:
which would separate (for example) chance_(bad_dragon) tag
into maybe
chance_(bad_dragon_dildo)
chance_(bad_dragon_character)

OR maybe
chance_(bad_dragon)_(dildo) ?? (potentially better than tag of chance_(dildo)_(bad_dragon) considering all the *_(artist) and *_(character) tags)

(existing examples of *(*)*(*) tags:
11 corin_(luvbites)_(character)
2 prince_eric_(the_little_mermaid)_(character)
10 mark_(horse)_(aaron)
2 carmen_(animal_crossing)_(mouse) )

(moving other sex-toy writing to next comment for readability ... felt too TLDR)

Updated by anonymous

I started this reply thinking it would be simple.
I was wrong. (maybe?)

What about Bad Dragon's products that are not dildos?

(I assume (for example) no character version of BD's egg_plug, so assume can leave egg_plug_(bad_dragon) tag as is.)

Going through current *bad_dragon* tags :

1) 765 . . . bad_dragon . . . copyright
2) 17 . . . dildo_(bad_dragon) . . . general

+ 1 . . . bad_dragon_dildo . . . general
+ 1 . . . bad_dragon_toy . . . general

3) 2 . . . alice_(bad_dragon) . . . character (both are of character)
4) 3 . . . anthro_dragon_(bad_dragon) . . . general (I'm guessing this is of packer Anthro Dragon Packer )

5) 2 . . . anthro_shark_(bad_dragon) . . . general

Seems to have started as Tabby The Anthro Shark (listed at https://labs.bad-dragon.com/idea/winners )

First listing (that is archived at archive.org) in Bad Dragon shop is renamed "The Anthro Shark" ( https://web.archive.org/web/20141009171712/http://bad-dragon.com:80/products in "Penetrable Toys" section
and https://web.archive.org/web/20141127044332/http://bad-dragon.com/products/anthroshark )

Starting around 2018, BadDragon URL for TheAnthroShark started redirecting to BadDragon URL for Gala
(example: https://web.archive.org/web/20180416044449/https://bad-dragon.com/products/anthroshark )
although archive.org seems to have difficulty saving content (after 2017?) resulting in 404 error pages.

http://bad-dragon.com/products/anthroshark
redirects to
https://bad-dragon.com/products/gala

CHARACTER

Character (semi-associated with The Anthro Shark) doesn't seem to be a Bad Dragon character, (which may be part of the reason for changing name of toy)
with 120 matches at FA for finir+tabitha
https://www.furaffinity.net/search/?q=finir+tabitha
55 posts at e621 tagged with tabitha_(finir)

SEX TOY
I think Gala shape looks different from The Anthro Shark. (Gala flaps seems smaller. Anthro Shark shaft(?) seems more wrinkly.)

neither Anthro Shark and Gala are dildos,
The Anthro Shark was in "Penetrable Toys" section (see 2014 archives at archive.org)
Gala current in "Masturbators" section.

Both uploads tagged with anthro_shark_(bad_dragon)
are of sex_toy ... (and character named Tabitha) ... so
'anthro_shark_(bad_dragon)' may be ok tag to keep.

There may be no art of a Gala character.

(i am running out of steam)

I was going to suggest maybe *_()_(penetrable_sex_toy) as possible tag format,
but at https://bad-dragon.com/shop
I noticed (alphabetically)
1a) David (dildo)
1B) David's Muzzle (in Masturbators section)
1C) David's Sheath (in Wereables section) (EDIT: are Wereables a penetrable_sex_toy??)

2a) Duke the Bad Dragon (dildo)
2B) Duke's Muzzle
2C) Duke's Butt (B&C in Masturbators section)

3A) Janine
3B) Janine's Muzzle (A&B in Masturbators section)
3c) Janine Plush

Janine's Muzzle tag would probably be Janine's_Muzzle_(bad_dragon) ?
What would other Janine penetrable_sex_toy be tagged as? https://bad-dragon.com/products/janine

EDIT: maybe Janine_(bad_dragon)_(penetrable_sex_toy)?

brain worn out :(

6) 1 . . . apollo_(bad_dragon) . . . character
7) 2 . . . austin_(bad_dragon) . . . character
8) 3 . . . axel_(bad_dragon) . . . character
9) 1 . . . blaze_(bad_dragon) . . . character
10) 1 . . . bruce_(bad_dragon) . . . general
11) 4 . . . bruiser_(bad_dragon) . . . character
12) 46 . . . chance_(bad_dragon) . . . character
13) 9 . . . clayton_(bad_dragon) . . . general
14) 1 . . . clint_(bad_dragon) . . . general
15) 1 . . . cockatrice_(bad_dragon) . . . general
16) 1 . . . cole_(bad_dragon) . . . character
17) 37 . . . crackers_(bad_dragon) . . . character
18) 12 . . . david_(bad_dragon) . . . character
19) 1 . . . dragon_tongue_(bad_dragon) . . . general
20) 1 . . . dragon's_tongue_(bad_dragon) . . . general
21) 64 . . . duke_(bad_dragon) . . . character
22) 5 . . . echo_(bad_dragon) . . . general
23) 1 . . . egg_plug_(bad_dragon) . . . copyright
24) 5 . . . fenrir_(bad_dragon) . . . character
25) 14 . . . flint_(bad_dragon) . . . character
26) 1 . . . glyph_(bad_dragon) . . . character
27) 4 . . . gryphon_(bad_dragon) . . . general
28) 1 . . . guardian_(bad_dragon) . . . general
29) 1 . . . hazel_(bad_dragon) . . . general
30) 19 . . . janine_(bad_dragon) . . . character
31) 4 . . . jt_(bad_dragon) . . . character
32) 8 . . . kelvin_(bad_dragon) . . . general
33) 1 . . . kona_(bad_dragon) . . . general
34) 1 . . . mary_(bad_dragon) . . . general
35) 1 . . . mountain_drake_(bad_dragon) . . . general
36) 1 . . . nix_(bad_dragon) . . . character
37) 10 . . . nova_(bad_dragon) . . . character
38) 9 . . . nox_(bad_dragon) . . . character
39) 1 . . . orochi_(bad_dragon) . . . character
40) 5 . . . pretzal_(bad_dragon) . . . general
41) 2 . . . razor_(bad_dragon) . . . general
42) 6 . . . rex_(bad_dragon) . . . character
43) 1 . . . ridley_(bad_dragon) . . . general
44) 1 . . . roland_(bad_dragon) . . . character
45) 1 . . . rowan_(bad_dragon) . . . character
46) 2 . . . scorn_(bad_dragon) . . . general
47) 1 . . . sleipnir_(bad_dragon) . . . general
48) 3 . . . spitfire_(bad_dragon) . . . character
49) 3 . . . spritz_(bad_dragon) . . . general
50) 6 . . . stan_(bad_dragon) . . . character
51) 1 . . . stubbs_(bad_dragon) . . . general
52) 2 . . . tailstretcher_(bad_dragon) . . . general
53) 7 . . . tentacle_(bad_dragon) . . . general
54) 3 . . . terra_(bad_dragon) . . . general
55) 2 . . . trent_(bad_dragon) . . . character
56) 3 . . . tucker_(bad_dragon) . . . general
57) 1 . . . vergil_(bad_dragon) . . . character
58) 2 . . . winston_(bad_dragon) . . . general
59) 2 . . . xar_(bad_dragon) . . . general

Updated by anonymous

ListerTheSquirrel said:
In terms of clarity, i prefer your 2nd suggestion:
which would separate (for example) chance_(bad_dragon) tag
into maybe
chance_(bad_dragon_dildo)
chance_(bad_dragon_character)
...

Well, one problem with this is that there will be posts which will eventually be tagged with chance_(bad_dragon) so now we either make that umbrella tag, disambiguation tag or alias it to either or, which increases the cleaning requirement regardless.

Also we do already have tags to indicate that posts have bad dragon toy in them, so excluding this tag when searching for bad dragon stuff should give artwork of the character instead of the toy.

ListerTheSquirrel said:
I started this reply thinking it would be simple.
I was wrong. (maybe?)

What about Bad Dragon's products that are not dildos?

(I assume (for example) no character version of BD's egg_plug, so assume can leave egg_plug_(bad_dragon) tag as is.)

Going through current *bad_dragon* tags :

1) 765 . . . bad_dragon . . . copyright
2) 17 . . . dildo_(bad_dragon) . . . general

I mean, do we have to specify it as didlo when we can go with umbrella term sex_toy as most didlos and penetrables have seperate names? Even Duke is regular Duke, Dukes butt and Dukes muzzle.

Also if going with character name only approac, there's no need to specify either and simply use generic term if it is a toy instead of character.

ListerTheSquirrel said:
4) 3 . . . anthro_dragon_(bad_dragon) . . . general (I'm guessing this is of packer Anthro Dragon Packer )

5) 2 . . . anthro_shark_(bad_dragon) . . . general

Seems to have started as Tabby The Anthro Shark (listed at https://labs.bad-dragon.com/idea/winners )

First listing (that is archived at archive.org) in Bad Dragon shop is renamed "The Anthro Shark" ( https://web.archive.org/web/20141009171712/http://bad-dragon.com:80/products in "Penetrable Toys" section
and https://web.archive.org/web/20141127044332/http://bad-dragon.com/products/anthroshark )

Starting around 2018, BadDragon URL for TheAnthroShark started redirecting to BadDragon URL for Gala
(example: https://web.archive.org/web/20180416044449/https://bad-dragon.com/products/anthroshark )
although archive.org seems to have difficulty saving content (after 2017?) resulting in 404 error pages.

http://bad-dragon.com/products/anthroshark
redirects to
https://bad-dragon.com/products/gala

CHARACTER

Character (semi-associated with The Anthro Shark) doesn't seem to be a Bad Dragon character, (which may be part of the reason for changing name of toy)
with 120 matches at FA for finir+tabitha
https://www.furaffinity.net/search/?q=finir+tabitha
55 posts at e621 tagged with tabitha_(finir)

SEX TOY
I think Gala shape looks different from The Anthro Shark. (Gala flaps seems smaller. Anthro Shark shaft(?) seems more wrinkly.)

neither Anthro Shark and Gala are dildos,
The Anthro Shark was in "Penetrable Toys" section (see 2014 archives at archive.org)
Gala current in "Masturbators" section.

Both uploads tagged with anthro_shark_(bad_dragon)
are of sex_toy ... (and character named Tabitha) ... so
'anthro_shark_(bad_dragon)' may be ok tag to keep.

There may be no art of a Gala character.

Tabitha is character owned by Finir. They submitted their characters genital designs to bad dragon labs back when, but as they are selling it as product, copyrights make it extremely hard and risky to sell the toy with the same name, so anthro shark is the generic name to use to avoid conflicts. So practically Tabitha and Anthro shark are the same, but technically (and for tagging purposes) not.

Similar to how bad dragons dexter is not the same as vergence, even if it is design derived directly from that character.
(Technically post #1343182 is falsely tagged and if that artwork has full bad dragon ownership then technically that takedown shouldn't apply either)

It seems like the toy has simply gone trough upgrade process to make it match more of their modern lineup, if you have their first iteration of toy and order same toy now there's most likely a lot of small and big differences. So in this case they have most likely altered the outer assets to not be as flappy because customers are breaking them also possibly changing from hand made mold to 3D models, however internal design is having essentially same pattern.
http://assets.bad-dragon.com/images/product_images/00940_full.jpg
https://da6npmvqm28oa.cloudfront.net/15ebbea4-d7a9-49f1-856c-a375e00374b7.jpg

I would personally just alias anthro_shark_(bad_dragon) to gala something as that's what it has essentially always been and the anthro shark never had artwork as character.

Updated by anonymous

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