ring_(disambiguation)

What about it?

I feel that the current ring tag is too vague. Suggest to unimplicate wedding_ring & toe_ring from ring then alias to ring_(disambiguation).

It is easily mistagged with other sorts of "rings". Possible room for mistags are with halos, the rings from sonic_(series), fighting_ring, swim_ring/life_rings, bracelets, anklets, cock_rings, and a variety of piercings.

Proposal

See tag tree below.

For disambiguation wiki

See also,

• digit_ring
• wedding_ring
• engagement_ring
• toe_ring
• armlet
• bracelet
• anklet
• halo
• hair_ring
• horn_wing
• neck_rings
• tail_ring
• fighting_ring
• swim_ring/life_ring
• cock_ring/omni-ring ^{_{(Fictional chastity device by Muzz)[/sup]}}
• ring_gag
• o-ring
• wind_ring ^{_{(Klonoa's main weapon)[/sup]}}
• medial_ring

piercing

What about it?

Related thread for forum #15424; Related compromise for forum #203665.

Generally, piercings are jewelry that are worn on the body.

So suggestion to implicate piercing with jewelry.

Proposal

See tag tree below.

jewelry

What about it?

Changes to tag tree.

Proposal

See tag tree below.

New tag implication/alias suggestions

List

==to be updated==

• Unimplicate wedding_ring -> ring
• Unimplicate toe_ring -> ring
• Alias ring -> ring_(disambiguation)
• Implicate silver_jewelry -> jewelry
• Implicate piercing -> jewelry
• Implicate ring_(jewelry) (digit_ring?) -> jewelry
• Implicate wedding_ring -> ring_(jewelry)
• Implicate engagement_ring -> ring_(jewelry)
• Implicate green_lantern_ring -> ring_(jewelry)
• Implicate toe_ring -> ring_(jewelry)
• Implicate body_jewelry -> jewelry
• Unimplicate necklace -> jewelry
• Unimplicate bangle -> jewelry
• Unimplicate bracelet -> jewelry
• Unimplicate anklet -> jewelry
• Implicate necklace -> body_jewelry
• Implicate bangle -> body_jewelry
• Implicate bracelet -> body_jewelry
• Implicate anklet -> body_jewelry
• Implicate neck_rings -> body_jewelry
• Implicate wing_jewelry -> body_jewelry
• Implicate genital_jewelry -> body_jewelry
• Implicate or Alias horn_jewelry -> body_jewelry
• Implicate horn_ring -> horn_jewelry
• Implicate or Alias tail_jewelry -> body_jewelry
• Implicate tail_ring -> tail_jewelry

• Implicate omni-ring -> cock_ring

+ others tba

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• jewelry
• silver_jewelry
• gold_jewelry
• piercing (keep?)
• head_jewelry
• neck_jewelry
• torso_jewelry
• limb_jewelry
• wing_jewelry
• tail_jewelry
• genital_jewelry

• body_ornaments
• head_ornament
• head_jewelry
• horn_ring
• neck_ornament
• neck_jewelry
• necklace
• bone_necklace
• chain_necklace
• neck_rings
• torso_ornament
• torso_jewelry
• belly_chain
• limb_ornament
• limb_jewelry
• digit_ring
• wedding_ring
• engagement_ring
• toe_ring
• armlet
• bracelet
• spiked_bracelet
• anklet
• tail_ornament
• tail_jewelry
• tail_ring

• furgonomics (related thread, forum #229470)
• furgonomic_armor
• furgonomic_clothing
• furgonomic_footwear
• furgonomic_headwear
• furry-specific_ornaments
• horn_ring
• tail_ring
• furry-specific_piercing

The general idea seems interesting however:

I) Green lanter rings adapt according the owner's anatomy, so it could be more like a belt, crown or another object (e.g. ). So -1.

II) 'ring_(jewelry)' would still unclarified, since multiple of those items are jewellry called 'ring' as well. I would suggest using 'digit_ring' (or similar tag) instead.

III) Piercings are fixed to the character's body, differently from jewelry that are wearable acessories; they are enough distinct to remain separated. So -1.

IV₁) If I understood correctly, 'body_jewelry' would refer to jewelry worn over any body-part except from legs/feet and arms/hans; and it simply seems a badmy formulated criteria (would be like creating a tag for every furniture piece that aren't meant to be seated or laid on).

IV₂) It's name is terrible, the majority of the users that read it would simply use to jewelry that should be worn on body, a.k.a any jewery.

V) There is new information on forum #238497 that are relevant tho your suggestion and that probably would entail modifications on it.

Edit: I accidentally put a link to post N° 238497 instead to forum post N° 238497.

O16 said:
III) Piercings are fixed to the character's body, differently from jewelry that are wearable acessories; they are enough distinct to remain separated. So -1.

While I get where you are coming from, piercings actually ARE removable; they're often swapped for things this way, and is the way most people swap out gauges and earrings and other piercings as well.

Though I do agree in that they're pretty distinct enough for separate tags and not just be a part of jewelry.

O16 said:
The general idea seems interesting however:

I) Green lanter rings adapt according the owner's anatomy, so it could be more like a belt, crown or another object (e.g. ). So -1.

I was going to compromise with jewelry since the wiki says it's a piece of jewelry worn by a Green Lantern. However, since you have pointed out it can morph into other objects. I'm going to exclude it.

II) 'ring_(jewelry)' would still unclarified, since multiple of those items are jewellry called 'ring' as well. I would suggest using 'digit_ring' (or similar tag) instead.

It's just a temporary name, I think that would be a good replacement (if everybody is ok with the change).

III) Piercings are fixed to the character's body, differently from jewelry that are wearable acessories; they are enough distinct to remain separated. So -1.

My thoughts are that piercings are technically a sort of jewelry worn on the body and could be implicated with jewelry to reflect that.

I mean whats the harm with having jewelry tagged along with piercings?

IV₁) If I understood correctly, 'body_jewelry' would refer to jewelry worn over any body-part except from legs/feet and arms/hans; and it simply seems a badmy formulated criteria (would be like creating a tag for every furniture piece that aren't meant to be seated or laid on).

IV₂) It's name is terrible, the majority of the users that read it would simply use to jewelry that should be worn on body, a.k.a any jewery.

Another temporary tag, basically for larger types of jewelry that aren't digit_rings or piercings.

V) There is new information on post #238497 that are relevant tho your suggestion and that probably would entail modifications on it.

forum #238497

I've taken note of furgonomics and the related tags. If anybody isn't against having it, I will mix it along with the batch.

Bumping this up since it's been two weeks. See changes to tag tree on first comment.

Changes,

• Changed ring_(jewelry) to digit_ring.
• Changed horn_ornament to head_ornament.
• Added furgonomics to the tag tree.
• Added head_ornament, neck_ornament, limb_ornament, body_ornament.
• Removed body_jewelry, horn_jewelry, wing_jewelry, tail_jewelry & genital_jewelry.
• Suggestion to disambiguate bangle and replace with either bracelet, anklet or armlet.

TheGreatWolfgang said:

• Changed ring_(jewelry) to digit_ring.
• Added furgonomics to the tag tree.
• Suggestion to disambiguate bangle and replace with either bracelet, anklet or armlet.

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Sure.

TheGreatWolfgang said:

• Changed horn_ornament to head_ornament.

Justifications?

Note: I already am working in a list regarding headwear and head ornaments, so you probably don't need to bother much about these.

TheGreatWolfgang said:

• Added head_ornament, neck_ornament, limb_ornament, body_ornament.

I) All jewelries are ornaments but not all ornaments are jewelries (e.g. ribbons, flower crown etc.).

II) 'body_jewelry' and 'body_ornament' have the same aforementioned problem. Why do not use more specific words rather than 'body', like 'torso' or something similar.

TheGreatWolfgang said:

• Removed body_jewelry, horn_jewelry, wing_jewelry, tail_jewelry & genital_jewelry.

Justifications?

Note: Except for 'body_jewelry'.

-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-

I) You didn't mentioned many subsets of jewelry present in your tree, like chain necklace, spiked bracelet etc.

II) You didn't mentioned objects that occasionally are used used as ornaments (e.g. collar, belt).

p.s. sorry for the confusion with the links, I meant the forum post.

O16 said:
Justifications?

Note: I already am working in a list regarding headwear and head ornaments, so you probably don't need to bother much about these.

I'm not against it but it seems like an extra tag to me. But I'm ok with it being there if there's going to be a separation of tags like hair_ornament, face_ornament, etc.

Example,

• jewelry
• head_ornament
• hair_ornament
• horn_ornament
• face_ornament
• etc.

I) All jewelries are ornaments but not all ornaments are jewelries (e.g. ribbons, flower crown etc.).

Exceptions, maybe?

II) 'body_jewelry' and 'body_ornament' have the same aforementioned problem. Why do not use more specific words rather than 'body', like 'torso' or something similar.\

I'm kinda trying to follow how Wikipedia categorizes their jewelry types page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jewellery_types#Body

But if there's a better tag (like torso_ornament?) then we could change that.

Justifications?

Note: Except for 'body_jewelry'.

Replaced with *_ornament, but considering that you said not all ornaments are jewelry. What tag name could you recommend?

I don't want to have a tree with too many subsets.

• jewelry
• head_ornament
• head_jewelry
• horn_ring
• hair_ornament

I) You didn't mentioned many subsets of jewelry present in your tree, like chain necklace, spiked bracelet etc.

I will add them into the tag tree. But would implications be better?

• chain_necklace I-> necklace
• spiked bracelet I-> bracelet

II) You didn't mentioned objects that occasionally are used used as ornaments (e.g. collar, belt).

Should we add them into the *_ornaments tags?

TheGreatWolfgang said:

I'm kinda trying to follow how Wikipedia categorizes their jewelry types page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jewellery_types#Body

But if there's a better tag (like torso_ornament?) then we could change that.

Better changing it, information need to be adaptated to our context when necessary.

TheGreatWolfgang said:
Replaced with *_ornament, but considering that you said not all ornaments are jewelry. What tag name could you recommend?

I don't want to have a tree with too many subsets.

• jewelry
• head_ornament
• head_jewelry
• horn_ring
• hair_ornament

I suggest:

• body_ornament
• x_ornament
• non-jewelty_x_items
• x_jewelry
• jewelry_x_items
• y_ornament
• non-jewelty_y_items
• y_jewelry
• jewelry_y_items

jewelry

TheGreatWolfgang said:
I will add them into the tag tree. But would implications be better?

• chain_necklace I-> necklace
• spiked bracelet I-> bracelet

Those variations should be added to he tree and posteriorly, the implications should be made (except the already applied ones like 'spiked_bracelet → bracelet').

TheGreatWolfgang said:
Should we add them into the *_ornaments tags?

Better to only mention them, since those may be ornaments sometimes but not always.

O16 said:
Better changing it, information need to be adaptated to our context when necessary.

I will be changing the tag to torso_ornament.

I suggest:

• body_ornament
• x_ornament
• non-jewelty_x_items
• x_jewelry
• jewelry_x_items
• y_ornament
• non-jewelty_y_items
• y_jewelry
• jewelry_y_items

jewelry

Seems like a good idea. We could later implicate *_jewelry to jewelry. I have also added in some of the tags I removed earlier to jewelry. (See changed tag tree)

Those variations should be added to he tree and posteriorly, the implications should be made (except the already applied ones like 'spiked_bracelet → bracelet').

Better to only mention them, since those may be ornaments sometimes but not always.

Alright.

I'm going to start with the ring -> ring_(disambiguation) alias.

However ring seems to be already aliased to something for some reason.